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« on: January 16, 2019, 09:36 »
Just in case anyone thinks exposure or anything else silly like that. Rawpixel Free Image Terms:
These uses are generally OK
Using the image (altered or unaltered) in advertising/promotional materials
Using the image on your social media accounts/website if you are not allowing others to download the image.
Spending time, effort and skill to make significant design changes to the image/design, so that it has become a new work, and then distributing/selling in any format/on merchandise.
Using the image (altered or unaltered) on a product when the main value of the product is not the image, i.e. it is ok to use as a cover for a book or on product packaging.
Using the image as an example/mock up for a template/merchandise where it is not possible for the customer to access/use the image.
Printing the image onto canvas, a poster, or invites when it is for your own personal use.
Really?
but the most pathetic is 240 dollar for an unlimited library....i mean if i download all the files, i pay not even a cent per image.
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« on: January 16, 2019, 09:34 »
Just in case anyone thinks exposure or anything else silly like that. Rawpixel Free Image Terms:
These uses are generally OK
Using the image (altered or unaltered) in advertising/promotional materials
Using the image on your social media accounts/website if you are not allowing others to download the image.
Spending time, effort and skill to make significant design changes to the image/design, so that it has become a new work, and then distributing/selling in any format/on merchandise.
Using the image (altered or unaltered) on a product when the main value of the product is not the image, i.e. it is ok to use as a cover for a book or on product packaging.
Using the image as an example/mock up for a template/merchandise where it is not possible for the customer to access/use the image.
Printing the image onto canvas, a poster, or invites when it is for your own personal use.
Really?
these library are an invitation to this and scammers mostly from india to use their works and resell...is not a case fake accounts wth stolen images appear daily in shutterstock- and i'm cynical but don't blame at all the theft...stupid company and people deserves this.. which is the only micro stock website who gives images for free? reamstime and can stock probably and we can see how much they sell....giving free images and think this is a good strategy to find customer is the most idiot thing anybody can do.
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« on: January 15, 2019, 17:53 »
shutterstock is a site ruined by idiots for idiots...
last example...
i am doing for a blog of food mine a series of recipes where i start from ingredients photo every step and the final result in different angle...similar background.iif i click on one of the images of the series, despite uploaded at the same time and with similar title, the images that appears under as similar are totally ..g different images , not the other one who could have a market, no...they don't appear...i mean , is this not so idiot?
even the so criticized stock do this....stocksy do this..only this pathetic company with capped sales just to please a bit everybody who uploads cats and trees photos.
i decide not to do a composite so to force those interested in buying all images of the series and make the composite.. totally useless.
one photo series is about a dessert, very popular at the moment..under most photos there are photos, ugly mostly snapshots, of fishes cut in half on a cutboard...similar image...si..milllaaar..images?
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« on: January 15, 2019, 13:40 »
IMHO, pricing by pixel size was another major factor in the collapse. Image size has no relation to the costs of production, and "thumbnail" can be anyrhing. It's like selling low resolution versions of hit tunes at a huge discount. FB is a new form of advertising, some of the old licensing concepts don't really apply.
Anyway, I'm out of it. I no longer need to rationalize the pricing.
Though that is what happens with music...you can stream virtually free. Downloading in MP3 costs more and then more again for the (allegedly) better quality vinyl or CD. Pricing generally has nothing to do with input costs its a function of supply and demand.
Yes, price is set by supply and demand. But if that process ends up at a point where suppliers can't even recover their costs, production will cease. Of course, in the case of microstock, buyers and producers don't negotiate directly, so it's far from an ideal market.
Music streaming is comparable to microstock in some ways. I guess we'd have to ask some musicians if they thought streaming was a good thing. I think they'd say 'no'.
soon micro sock won't have any professional ready to invest more than 50 bucks in any kind of shooting...even bog company are hit, lower their earning. only desperate from eastern europe and thailand still upload . out of their camera, but it's just the impossibility to accept that micro stock is ending.
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« on: January 15, 2019, 13:38 »
The Facebook deal was, I think, the first of that kind and all the 38 cent royalties for using a SS image in a Facebook ad (which the ad buyer didn't pay for) were reported as SOD. They've been around since at least the end of 2015.
The 38 cent SODs aren't a problem - it's the lack of $75, $90 and $120 SODs that's been noticable and one of the huge hits to income at SS. The other has been replacing the $2.85 OD income with all sorts of lower numbers, without any increase in volume - all those experiments with lower-priced packages they've introduced over the last year or so.
i agree the rpi is falling down to stock level...this company has been hitting hard by instagarma and site like unsplash...there are many images out there that can be had for free now, and cover 90% of need of buyer, only released model files have still some kind of protection.
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« on: January 14, 2019, 11:06 »
by the way how is youjanuary....?
last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019
and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?
My January is going okay.
actually i don't understand but i didn't understand for example what's up...sold for billions with earning practically near null..
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« on: January 14, 2019, 10:44 »
by the way how is youjanuary....?
last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019
and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
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« on: January 11, 2019, 07:21 »
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/toluk?page=200§ion=1&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery&language=hushutterstock?...ahahahhahahaha.... http://www.microstock.club/indeximg20180512.phtml?p=111&sort=countryiff you account for ukraine and russian contributor probably they own 60 70% of images uploaded mostly crap....many contributor hide themselves as born in western europe country, look in andorra list most are russian. http://www.microstock.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=18903&page=31even russian good contributor complaints about this. and the last message is scaring don't know how to translate correctly but seems like: "Шаттер решил, чтобы дерьма на сайте было еще больше. Он локализовал на русский интерфейс контрибутера. Теперь дерьма из России польется в 10 раз больше, в гонку вступают неграмотные разведенки и беременные." "Shutter decided to crap on the site was even more. It is localized to Russian interface kontributera. Now the crap out of Russia to pour in 10 times more in the race come illiterate and pregnant razvedenki" in practice tere is a new interface for russian language, so everybody who don't know english, 99,99% of russian people can now upload using the russian language...good luck to everybody!! soon 1 million new images per week will be a joke, ready to 10 millions new crap for weeks?
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« on: January 11, 2019, 06:31 »
my biggest hope even losing all my monthly income is that all those crap agency close soon and a new era will start....but it's a dream....i think what success would have an agency with the micro stock price, maybe double, and the quality control of stocksy..
i mean buyer are not tired of searching and browsing through millions of craps?
those with good portfolio wouldn't been happier to receive a better % and compete only with good contents and in a database of 5 10 million images?
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« on: January 11, 2019, 05:26 »
probably they are wrong...better say...2 it's shutter subs!"....killed by thief and free image website thats their destiny.
387
« on: January 10, 2019, 09:17 »
same cake thousand of people eating...what you expect? video has reached the same point as photos. with this policy of accepting everybody and everything things will worsen.
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« on: January 03, 2019, 13:24 »
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96070-yet-another-thief/Strange somebody selling stolen images from unsplash... and by the way indian... strange)) .. in the last year hundred of indian account with stolen images . Those people who gave free photos in unsplash are probably the dumbest person ever appeared on the www. I cannot think of somebody more atupid. It must also be seen if its illegal to sell Those files cause unsplash doesnt prohibit the sale of their files. As i have predicted therr will be a flow of account with unsplash and pixebay. Now not even there is a need to buy a camera and a lens to make money with photography))
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« on: January 02, 2019, 12:50 »
Lets hope that 2019 is the year that pulls us out of this - although I can't think of what would cause that to happen, unfortunately.
Steve
The answer is in the question "I", yes you. Follow the money, Premium and Exclusive content is where it is at, just hope it is not too late for the penny to drop, or are you waiting for your earnings to drop substantially before you jump. It's time to stop selling good quality content cheap.
Happy New Year 
well i would like t see all those premium content how much sell..im with some bouquet agency they sell nothing last year.....even stocksy am sure is not growing or selling a lot....if you check some portfolio you see many authors slowing down their uploading in stocksy too....the fact is that free image website are killing this industry. unspalsh file are download in million , and most are sale who don't go to micro stock or premium...a lot of enterprise or magazine prefer an unsplash file for free than spending thousand dollar....even apple use unspalsh file for big presentation and advertising content. in my opinion the only way is released file , good and creative content with model released, files who still struggle to find their way in free image sites due to release document. for the rest is a drive to the end,,,my 2018 is better than 217 by only 15% despite lot of work and a grow of portfolio of 30%. i expected much more.
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« on: December 28, 2018, 12:19 »
Just to compare your comparison: my SS rpd for December 2018 is $1.23, while my FT rpd for December 2018 is $1.
The split for my December 2018 photo revenue from SS is as follows:
Subs: 29%
ODDs: 29%
ELs: 19%
SODs: 23%
It doesn't really look like a "shuttersub", as you can see.
not talking about revenue but number of download.
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« on: December 28, 2018, 10:59 »
this month 4% of sale are not sub, 96% of sub..ne 2,85 sale in the last 10 days...they are promoting packages of sub? never happened to me...a pd appalling...download are normal, but with such an rpd is impossible to earn something.....fotolia instead rpd of 1,78 dollar this month, just to compare. seems to me that those free photos website are impacting the mcrostock industry heavily.
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« on: December 27, 2018, 13:21 »
2018 Update
Shutterstock Milestones:
September 21, 2006 - Shutterstock surpasses one million stock photos
February 20, 2009 -Shutterstock reaches 6 million photos, (5 million 2.5 years)
February 14, 2010 - Shutterstock reaches 10 million Photos (4 million 12 months)
June 19, 2012 - Shutterstock reaches 20 million stock Images (10 Million 28 months)
October 30, 2013 - Shutterstock reaches 30 million images (10 million 15 months)
August 4, 2014 - Shutterstock celebrates 40 million images in it's collection. (10 million 10 months)
December 31, 2014 - 46.8 million images in the collection. (1 million new files per month)
March 3, 2015 - 50 Million Image mark is reached (10 million in 7 months for those watching)
August 12, 2015 - 60 Million Images (10 million in 160 days. 62,500 new files a day)
December 15, 2015 - 70 Million Images (four months)
March 26, 2016 - 80 Million
June 16, 2016 - 90 Million (10 million under three months)
Sept 8, 2016 - 100 Million
February 2017 - 110 Million
October 28, 2017 160 Million
December 29, 2017 - 170 Million (10 million new two months)
February 24, 2018 - 180 Million
April 16, 2018 - 190 Million (20 million new in 3.5 months)
June 10, 2018 - 200 Million (10 million new in 55 days)
August 1, 2018 - 210 Million (10 million new in 53 days)
Sept. 26th 2018 - 220 Million images now on Shutterstock
Nov. 12th 2018 - 231 Million images on Shutterstock.
Dec. 26th, 2018 - 240 Million royalty-free stock images Shutterstock (10 million new in 44 days)
70 million new images added in 2018 vs 10 years to add that same amount 2005-2015
End of Dec. 2018
17877 contributors with over 1000 images
7616 Authors with over 1000 video clips
and we complain about sales...i'm still amazed i can reach some sales every month.
393
« on: December 17, 2018, 13:00 »
i ha a sale for 0,25 cent..never had it ...can you explain what kind of royalty is this?
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« on: December 15, 2018, 14:12 »
How did Fridays become like Saturdays and Sundays now? Usually they were like any other working week day.
My Friday was like a good Wednesday (over $120). Today, a Saturday, is like a Friday, with 2 ELs and counting.
Just a matter of perspective 
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« on: December 15, 2018, 14:10 »
How did Fridays become like Saturdays and Sundays now? Usually they were like any other working week day.
My Friday was like a good Wednesday (over $120). Today, a Saturday, is like a Friday, with 2 ELs and counting.
Just a matter of perspective
...
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« on: December 15, 2018, 11:15 »
as i said 500 christmas and new year images...they sell super n fotolia and isctoc...theyeven sell good in dreamstime...in ss? 12 dollar in 2 months 26 download.....lucky i have many files in popular na amy income is always the same due to the...new files? forget. impossible to sell anything...? https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/95918-i-used-catlog-manager-but-nothing-sell-by-it/ss ia s awebstiete where people sell stolen images from anywhere and then go to ss forum and ask why they not sell..and nobody do nothing. really what a mess of company. i hope they go down like a stone in the next years...the only way to stabilize the market...ss is home of zillions of russian indian and thailand spammers theft and nobody do nothing in ss. they build new enterprise building fro what'
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« on: December 13, 2018, 08:35 »
what is surprising is that people are still uploading like crazy despite clearly the fact that the same happen to ever contributor...the level of sale is near the same or increase very small for all agency, but the content, in eery agency reach the million per eek...i mean there will be a point where very contributor will realize that uploading doesn't change nothing and simply stop uploading and producing content...but when...really i see people especially from low cost producing country uploading thousand of content per wee but for what.
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« on: December 13, 2018, 07:55 »
that 's why in adobe and istock things still works for new images....more than 1000 images for christmas prepared this winter...in fotolia and stock sell a lot, in fotolia everyday 10 dollar only from those images since two months....in shuttestock....12 dollar in 2 months....12 dollar?!!!...i keep sell only images who are already on top popular search...the rest if not sold between one day from the moment they are uploaded go straight through the toilet...unbielievabe was they are doing...all made simply to secure big factory a strong profit...if you search christmas popular there are always the same images, that's why some contributor still sell a lot even uploading 10 images every 60 months. nobody will search new images in ss nobody can even imagine to find anything interesting in that mess of crap spam wrong keyboard...indian and russian spamming like there will not be a tomorrow....is not a case they eliminated relevant and since that moment new images sales simply disappeared...apart rarely case. ss is the only agency with just to way of searching , guess why.
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« on: December 07, 2018, 10:34 »
at Shutterstock everything is drowning in millions of crappy smartphone images from contributors in India.
i agree they are collapsing...and china and other big third world country still haven't discovered.....that's hy is fotolia are growing and ss still same....they don't have a clue what they are doing....and n the sea of garbage they want sell premium stock footage.
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« on: December 07, 2018, 10:31 »
My micro stock income is going down across the boards, all agencies, all months over the last few years despite creating more and better work over the same period of time.
The worst drop in income is at Shutterstock. Between 2014 and 2015 my November earnings fell to half of what they were the previous year. Between 2015 and 2016 earnings again fell to half their previous level. Same between 2016 and 2017. And once again in 2018 I'm looking at half the previous year's earnings for November.
The problem is Shutterstock is taking on close to 200,000 new images per day. Most of it is crap, but the good images have no chance of being found in the garbage dump. I've also noticed Shutterstock is working hard to place articles in the media about how you can become a millionaire selling stock.... probably in an effort to get new contributors to replace the ones that are figuring out it doesn't work. This only makes the situation worse.
you said all. i already said this but people said i have problem with keyword...i upload more of 500 images of christmas and newer from mid october to now....in fotolia and is they are selling like hotcakes, in is this day i have nearly doubled my image view...in ss nothing zero, even can stock and 123rf sell something...in ss i still have the same constant daily sales of 25 30 old files who luckily had good position on image search thanks to the fact in the past images of good quality had chance to sell...today is impossible...nobody is unhealthy mentally to search the new images, 80% of images accepted today are garbage i would be ashamed to have take...any agency has this crap...istock fotolia accept a lot but nothing so low quality like ss. is not a case that ss is the only agency to have just popular and new...any relevant, curator pick or other category. that' why many photographer still sell a lot despite having stopped to upload or work.
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