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Site Related / Re: Welcome Back after hack
« on: September 27, 2011, 10:57 »
This place is like crack and I need my daily fix  :P

I haven't tried crack but I'll take your word for it.

lol

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Good news: istock is going down....
« on: September 26, 2011, 20:55 »
Looks like the economic environment plays a certain role here....

brilliant insight, good thing you are here to point this out or where would we be? ;)

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Site Related / Re: Welcome Back after hack
« on: September 26, 2011, 14:06 »
My mistake, I thought we included our login for the gauge thingy, but I just checked and it is username only. In any case, great work getting msg back up so fast, cheers

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Best Match Update
« on: September 26, 2011, 12:43 »
FYI - someone did quote this section from Lobo in the other best match thread here ;-) but yes, try not to focus on the daily stats. they're frustrating.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Best Match Update
« on: September 26, 2011, 12:33 »
best match is all over the place, as always. last week I had two BDE, then yesterday and today sales are slow, for me anyways. I think the only thing consistent these days about sales on iStock, is that they aren't consistent. each month finishes okay to good on the whole so that's the number I'm keeping an eye on. the daily stats are enough to drive you crazy.

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Site Related / Re: Welcome Back after hack
« on: September 26, 2011, 11:37 »
so we're certain that encrypted data weren't compromised? since our logins to sites we contribute to are kept here too...

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I'd sell.  45,000 in my hand would be too tempting to me against the possibility of maybe making more and maybe not.  

+1

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I think negativity on this forum is a given, unfortunately. out of principle some contributors dislike anything that even smells like a factory, with good reason. regardless, it does seem like an intensive and incredible experience for burgeoning photographers. a hands-on education is so much better than one based on theory alone.

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...but it's enough of a possibility to worry me in an already saturated industry.

Think about the numbers. Even if all 15 'students' were to able to produce a massive 1000 new images per month each, for all of the supposed 36 months of the exercise, it would still only amount to about 500K in total. That's not much in the greater scheme of things over 3 years. How much would that all cost in terms of models, sets, etc? Far more realistic would be 100 new images per month per student in which case it is only 50K images over 3 years. That's no real threat at all unless they happen to compete directly with your own subject matter.

maybe.

I wouldn't scoff too much at the "no photography experience required" bit...just go back four or five years and look at the earliest files from some of the biggest microstock shooters. people can and do learn very quickly.

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since there are already contributors who trained under Yuri, producing strikingly similar images to his, that are now exclusive at iStock, Yuri spending three years training 10-15 more mini-me's can only mean a deluge of Yuri-styled images coming into stock collections. granted, I'm making a pretty big assumption. it's possible the aim of the program has nothing to do with populating collections...but it's enough of a possibility to worry me in an already saturated industry.

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I'm thinking this can only be bad for all of us

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: 'Edstock' now has over 15,000 files...
« on: September 22, 2011, 15:59 »
just received my Contact Sheet. feels like such an insult to see them advertising celebrity images on iStock in it. get your celebrity images here, just not by anyone who is actually an iStockphoto contributor.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: August best match shift?
« on: September 22, 2011, 13:19 »
yeah, "brick wall" produces weird results..."money" produces good results....though I notice the minority of V/A files in many of my searches by best match. interesting.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: August best match shift?
« on: September 22, 2011, 12:07 »
I don't know what they've done, but I like it!
:)
They made the best match search like the file age search again.  It's not good for anyone because it puts irrelevant and bad images in front of the buyers.  I think my sales have increased a little since I have a relatively large amount of newer stuff (11 of my last 20 sales were first timers when normally its 1 or 2 out of 20) but the searches look terrible.  It's very unprofessional and we can't even question this in the forums there.

I'm not seeing this. Seasonal searches like 'thanksgiving' definitely seem to favour new files. but my usual searches including terms like 'business', 'family' and the rest of my test terms produce a good mix of results today.

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Someone once told me that hookers make great models. Lots of acting experience, turn up on time and do exactly what they are told.

True enough __ it seems to have worked for Gauguin and Van Gogh anway. The Pigalle area of Paris was full of 'models' back then.

lol. if we see anyone missing an ear, we'll know they took your advice ;-)

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All of his models; male, female, young & old are stunning. Who would not want these people to represent their product or company?

Companies who want to make a connection with the people they are advertising to.  I mean, overly pretty people can't hurt in most situations, but in some, they can.

All of my models are real people - they have other jobs.  I do ok.

Around here, agencies won't work with you either without paying an arm and a leg.  Another way that contributors can keep costs down is to use "non-pro" models.

same in Canada. and agree with your comment. I prefer to shoot using real people too. even when I do have the opportunity to work with a professional model, I want something more natural and genuine most of the time rather than typical pro poses. that might seem a bit idealistic, since clearly the pro model/posed shots sell very well. but I just don't enjoy producing stuff like that.

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Nikon / Re: Nikon announces Nikon 1 system
« on: September 21, 2011, 12:13 »
so this is the big Nikon fall announcement? that's a major disappointment.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 20, 2011, 15:46 »
^ I see what you're saying and why, I'm just not sure the two examples are analogous. another example is book publishing, royalties are a pittance and shelf life of a book is maybe three months. maybe you could compare books with selling photos, however authors are as much a part of the 'commodity package' as the book. that isn't the case in microstock. I think most of us are unknown to buyers, with obvious exceptions.

I don't feel grateful for being paid anything at all. I know iStock would like us to feel that way, but I've always found those comments to be a little ridiculous

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: 'Edstock' now has over 15,000 files...
« on: September 20, 2011, 12:26 »
The only "editorial" worth doing is street scenes - or generic events like a Highland Games which represent something more than just the people pictured. Neither celebrities nor news events have any microstock value, the former because their agent will gladly flood publishers with free pictures, the latter because any window for sales is probably already shut before it's online. Shooting major sports events could easily lose you money because last month's football match is already ancient history and fans have already posted another two hundred pictures of the same teams since then. If your overall rank is affected by the average sales per image, then 1,000 easy-to-get editorial non-sellers sitting in your portfolio might push all the rest of your portfolio down a page in the search. I've disabled almost all my DT editorial because of that.

I've all but stopped uploading editorial (temporarily, maybe not) on iStock....not sure what I'm planning on doing, I'm just not worrying about it right now and trying to get back to the creative content I also really enjoy producing. I'll still shoot editorial for me and for other agencies where I'm selling as RM. but I don't see an exciting future for iStock editorial contributors.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 20:21 »
@Sean: your post surprised me. do you really feel iStock's rules are the rules? I don't anymore. the rules are less than consistent these days.

As far as "regular" contributors go, yes, things seem pretty consistent to me.  Disregarding edstock and anything else having to do with Getty specifically, of course.

ok, with that qualification I don't disagree ;-)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 19:51 »
I'm not fueling anything. and I stand by my comments. but you're entitled to your opinion. cheers.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 19:43 »
I think it is totally fair to discuss something unsubstantiated as long as I state clearly that it is only surmising. the rumour is past its shelf life anyways, and I'm sure nobody cares about this particular example. it was simply the first time a possibility like this had come to my attention, which was my reason for pointing it out. it seems you don't like Yuri nearly as much as Elena, since you're letting him take a good flogging in here without your 'protection' ;)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 19:30 »
years ago I probably would have argued that iStock doesn't do special deals with hand-picked contributors. but then I saw the speed with which contributor Elena Vizerskaya was brought in, downloaded, made exclusive and boom--all in a very orchestrated fashion.....I love her work, that is beside the point. and theoretically I don't have any problem with superstar contributors being brought in to boost traffic etc.


So you didn't believe istock had special deals with contributors until Elena Vizerskaya turned up and rose quickly? Yeah, right.

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone referring to "questions and concerns within the community" about her and her career at istock. But there seems to have been loads of "rumbling" about her where you've been since she became an outstandingly successful contributor within a very short time (or rather "brought in" and "made exclusive" in a "very orchestrated fashion").

You've suggested multiple times in this thread that she is getting some kind of special treatment, of course without forgetting to mention often enough that her work is excellent. This is exactly how nasty rumours about people start to spread, and I'm sure you're aware of how inappropriate it is to act like that against a fellow contributor. Yeah: "kindness is a wonderful thing".

I don't want to get caught up sniping at one another, so let me request that you go back and read my comments. within every comment I clearly state how good I find her work to be. and since I don't know who you are, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you weren't in the forums on istock when this came about. there was indeed a lot of commenting on this. you may also note in my first post that I stated I don't theoretically have a problem with bringing in superstars and promoting them as part of our collection. what I do have a problem with is preferential treatment and selective bending on rules. and FWIW, I don't blame those who benefit from the rules being bent. I blame the agency for operating using double standards.

@Sean: your post surprised me. do you really feel iStock's rules are the rules? I don't anymore. the rules are less than consistent these days.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 18:46 »
it may well have been achieved as simply as you say it was. again, not knocking her work, at all. but it felt by design at the time and it still does looking back. and it was the first time I saw anything like that kind of promotion for one contributor. especially one whose work is almost all composite.

I'll say the recent addition of Getty content and Agency pseudo-exclusives are a far greater issue for me though. and then there's finding these 'contributors' promoted in hot shots and getty top 8 newsletters. lightboxes on the front page filled with the same contributors' work week after week.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 19, 2011, 18:28 »
Interesting thread and topic... Ive had pretty bad sales for September, quite unusual and I think Ive pinpointed the cause:

 (Bad Karma)^2 [(Microstock Model) (Bruce Leaving) (Getty)] + (Higher Prices)(Economic Crisis)
_________________________________________________________________________________ = iStock '11

                         [(Bad Word Of Mouth)  (Best Match) ^3] - (Redeemed Credit System) ^2


nice, I love it :-)

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