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4051
« on: January 14, 2014, 11:10 »
The strategy of taking "everything" makes sense if you are planning to make money with the simpler images on their cheaper websites. Only the higher end content is what they are probably expecting to sell on istock. Basically istock is just an entry portal for content of any type that they later pass around, move up or down etc...Same with keywords. Even if the keywords are not perfect, the system will anyway only promote the keywords that the customers use, it is self learning.
If you only look at istock itself, the strategy is strange, but if you think about how many agencies Getty owns and how many partner deals they have it makes perfect sense to try and attract "everything" that the stock industry has to offer.
That is why images elsewhere - on stocksy, offset, fotolia or dreamstime are the only real pain for them, especially if they cant make a deal to get them licensed to their site.
"getty has everything" is a very powerful concept. It is simply a lot easier for the customer, especially for the high volume customer, to get any kind of content that is available from one site.
4052
« on: January 13, 2014, 16:35 »
Either I got lucky or things are improving: I sent a test batch with 8 very mixed files and they have all been approved.
So Ill go back to shoot upload repeat.
4053
« on: January 13, 2014, 11:50 »
Well, you can follow the progress of me and many others who went indie. We are not new to stock, but we are new to most agencies. If you are completely new to stock, you will have to evaluate how much time you have and if you are already shooting at a professional standard.
It is always possible to get in, but certainly will take longer to make reliable money than before.
4054
« on: January 12, 2014, 12:51 »
I agree, looks great!
4055
« on: January 12, 2014, 08:40 »
I dont want to be treated as an employee. If you do - just apply for a job with them...
4056
« on: January 11, 2014, 19:27 »
Somebody suggested that the bizarre rejections might be connected with the free month trial at skillfeed. To get as many people to sign up there as possible. If true, this would be really ridiculous. Im preparing a small batch, but i will hold back the other files until the situation calms down.
At least we have other agencies who are happy to sell our files.
My videos are being inspected normally, at least something I can work on.
4057
« on: January 11, 2014, 09:05 »
stock performer is your friend Sean. I wouldt know what to do without them.
The stats on SS are useless with the exception of the world map, but that just shows you the last 10 files, so you dont get country specific data you can analyse for targeting your shootings. It is more of a gimmick, but a lot of fun.
4058
« on: January 11, 2014, 08:08 »
Just wanted to say that I agree that dreamstime is a very interesting and friendly site as well. Since istock removed the artist page and our blogs, Dreamstime has been sending out some very charming newsletter highlighting individual blogs and I think they even ran a small competition? They are certainly encouraging the artists to use their pages for self marketing, so i am not surprised that their revenue is rising.
Happy artists that feel comfortable in their community and forum and enthusiastically support a site can have a good influence. It creates the warm fuzzy background chit chatter that the real marketing of the salesteam can build on.
4059
« on: January 10, 2014, 14:10 »
My lowest was 6 cents. From Gettyimages.
I feel comfortable buying iphone apps for 99 cents that were programmed by over 100 people and took 18 months to develop. I dont feel bad if people pay 35 cents as long as there are enough sales.
You just need to offer the right files for the high volume market and the specialised content for the low volume market.
Business is business. Only the money in my bank account is what is important.
4060
« on: January 10, 2014, 05:21 »
Is now the time to buy SS shares? I mean Yuri showed us how they dropped when he left, so now with Sean testing the waters it must mean they will go up right?
4061
« on: January 09, 2014, 18:46 »
Fascinating! Very brave to reevaluate your opinion of subs and Shutterstock and to just go and test it directly! Personally I think Videos are more interesting than photos, but my portfolio for photos is still too small and I am not uploading enough. SS needs very regular uploads, preferably in larger batches. At least for me the results were better if I combined my weekly uploads into one large lot instead of sending a few images every day.
Feels like spinning a wheel and a very large batch, gives a very visible push to the whole portfolio. Then things slowly drop down again and settle at a higher level than before. The lower level is remarkably stable, even if you dont upload for 2 months. I can see why the community likes SS.
Plus the upload system is superb and SS has managed to keep their business running with a lot less emotional drama than all the other agencies. It means they have very good peopleskills and know how to respect the community as a group of independent entrepreneurs that they meet at eye level.
I need to get used to producing in much higher volume, not just for SS. But I am happy to do this if supplying several agencies keeps me free and my income balanced.
4062
« on: January 07, 2014, 13:47 »
The thing is - what will your future look like? And how much time do you spend on producing stock?
I started uploading to new sites in April and have only around 500 files on new sites. From 330 on dreamstime to 670 on deposit.
I earn over between 150- 200 dollars a month from the new sites in addition to my old portfolio on istock. and haven't really uploaded much in the last 2 months.
New work sells very easily and consistently.
I really don't think it will be a big problem to earn more than 400 dollars overall.
Your income from istock will drop by 80-90% of course and it takes time until files start taking off. It is also important to upload constistently, I would earn a lot more if I sent in work every week. Many of my friends who went indie are earning a lot more than me, but they upload more.
Just my 2cents.
If you are trying to earn 4000 dollars, it would be different of course. But more than 400, that doesn't sound like a very big challenge to me.
On the other hand, if stock is just a side income and you feel comfortable uploading to istock only and have no time to prepare your portfolio for going indie...maybe just try doing video? You can get to know the other agencies in peace and earn more money from a new medium.
Whatever you do - good luck!
4063
« on: January 06, 2014, 12:08 »
I am happy with the results and service from deposit. They accept all my files, I don't need to downsize anything the way I do for SS or Fotolia, they pay me 44% and the income is growing steadily. Very hassle free and easy to work with.
4064
« on: January 04, 2014, 15:26 »
Mine arrived today! Thank you!!!
4065
« on: January 04, 2014, 11:26 »
Thank you very much for sharing!
Being fully artist exclusive is a difficult decision. Sending only exclusive files, like Getty does or Fotolia or Dreamstime, is a lot easier. You can then still focus most of your attention on one agency, but can still have different content elsewhere for added protection.
I hope it keeps working for you. Many of my friends are still fully artist exclusive, so I hope Getty will soon focus more energy on their exclusives again and not just the "special exclusives" like Yuri.
4066
« on: January 01, 2014, 17:42 »
While it is nice to see that an agency wants to share 50/50 with the artist, we still need to be convinced that you are serious about making money and being a professional agency. One important aspect are good search results for the buyer which includes inspecting keywords on upload. Are your images even inspected? I did a search for apple and got this: http://www.foximages.eu/photo/6166/photo-details.html apple, brandy, drink, exhibition, fair, festival, food, fruits, hand decorating, homemade brandy, onion, packing, vegetables, watermelon, wine with all kinds of strange keywords. Same goes for many other searches I did. An agency needs a lot more than just a "buy here" and "upload images" button. I wish you all the best, but it looks like you have a lot of work if you want to make any serious money and still be around in a year or so.
4067
« on: January 01, 2014, 08:17 »
Mine dropped as well, from 18 to 17%. Some people already mentioned it in the forums.
Let's see how long it takes to correct this. istock is never boring...
4068
« on: December 24, 2013, 20:41 »
I guess it shows sometimes people work hard on christmas eve...
Sorry for all those affected. The timing is incredible.
But for me it is a reminder why I feel safer as indie. Even if one agency does this to you it is unlikely they will all do something really stupid at the same time.
4069
« on: December 23, 2013, 00:59 »
Good for you Mike!
I once had 100 shares and sold them with good profit. Of course now when I look at the stock price...but I have no regrets. I 'd rather take profits once to many then be disappointed if a stock drops.
I wouldn't mind getting back in, but I am really not sure about the timing. PE looks pretty high at the moment.
With SS you can be a shareholder and make additional money instead of just working with your portfolio.
Plus you get published business data to see how they are doing. That is useful for all contributing artists.
4070
« on: December 22, 2013, 18:04 »
I am also getting sales from dreamstime, fotolia and deposit. On deposit the prices are very low, you might want to consider sending files you feel comfortable selling at that price point.
Fotolia also has video subscription, but you must activate it. However it is for small web sizes only and you get very low royalties, not sure I can recommend it. On SS I have very good results with their footage subscription program,many sales over 20 dollars.
80% of my video sales are from pond5 and SS. So feeding them is for me the most important. All others are way behind.
On pond5 it took much longer than on SS to see regular sales.
Just my experience from my amateur portfolio. Hope it helps.
ETA: pond5 has quite a lively community where people also share recent sales. There is quite a bit of editorial content there. On SS the one editorial file I have sold twice. This is something you couldn't send to istock, so if have editorial video you can now make money from that content as well.
4071
« on: December 21, 2013, 13:01 »
All photography, including iphoneography, is more about understanding visual communication and how to convey concepts. Images are created in your mind first before you press any buttons. At least if you want to make money, it is important to work on your overall visuall message skills. You can do that with any camera, although a camera where you can change lenses will give you more creative choices. Have you considered joining a camera club or taking classes in photography? In many ways photography has a lot in common with skills like creative writing or illustrations. You need to practise it a lot and get feedback from a very critical audience or teachers to improve. The money you can make will be proportional to the effort and thinking and learning you put into it. The journey is great fun though!
4072
« on: December 19, 2013, 10:24 »
Ive only been there since November with around 200 files,but I already have 5 sales/7.67 euros. Im quite impressed.
I really like their interface and that files go live immediately. They no longer show visible downloads, so life will be more difficult for copy cats and I hope one day they get themselves connected to stockperformer as well.
However, it is very European agency, might not work for everyone if you cant supply localised content.
4073
« on: December 17, 2013, 14:38 »
I agree, that is strange. They probably assume everyone knows their rates,but if I was checking them out, I would also want to know what the terms are.
4074
« on: December 17, 2013, 14:24 »
Now I see what you mean. But it doest look that scary. I mean if you are applying for getty, you consider yourself a pro in stock photography,so you should be able to put together an interesting application that stands out anyway.
I think it is a fun looking page, why not make the application process inspirational? Also they probably get so many applications every day, this system might help people to be more focussed when they apply.
getty is an edited collection with exclusive images. It is a process you need to get used to when you come from the micros.
But if you really want to work with them, i wouldt let the page scare you.
At the moment it is probably a lot easier to get into getty than stocksy or other more boutique agencies. They are a much bigger outfit and can work with more people.
4075
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:38 »
If you are making the same amount like you did when you were exclusive and reached this goal in less than 18 months, I am very impressed.
Your files havent been online that long and many will certainly still find new customers and havent reached their peak yet. At the video masterclass, simonkr shared that in his experience the second year was the financially strongest for his files and then things would slow down until they stabilised on a certain level.
I think your experience is a major indication that going indie is financially a very solid option for video. So now you have a loyal following of buyers on many different agencies, not just one and can build your portfolio in peace. You also have a much better chance of all files getting their day in the sun and being noticed by the different best match systems. You can sell editorial videos. You can select your own prices on pond5. etc
In short, unless doing video is a part time thing or you simply prefer working with just one agency, indie looks like the better financial option for video.
And you no longer have to worry which of the sites is moving up or down or if your agency will regain the position lost as market leader.
One more question: do you supply getty separately? If not, why not apply and make them one more of your agencies/webshops to work with.
I guess then you would have them all covered, wouldt you?
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