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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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« on: February 05, 2013, 20:44 »
All incentive systems are designed to get the originator of the system what they want - if they're badly designed things can go severely awry though.
As contributors we have no control over the system, just whether we play or not. Unless agencies respond to pressure - and 123rf hasn't thus far - it's a power struggle, not a discussion, to change the incentive system.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 20:42 »
Pond5 support told me the 2@contributor name was for pixmac; 1@contributor was for the now-ended 123rf. They also told me they would take down the pixmac mirror if I uploaded directly and asked them, so I'd write to support as it sounded from their reply to me as if you had to request it.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 20:37 »
Getty refuses to let contributors have control of where and how their content is licensed. No opt outs and not even notification on the various deals they're making.
I've learned to live with a massive pile of crap from iStock over the years in return for reasonable returns for my work, but Getty's recent behavior was just one step too far for me.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 20:35 »
Profimedia lists my portfolio there as 4,129 which is amusing as I don't have that number of images anywhere. They have images from 123rf, Alamy (both RM and RF) and Veer. You can check the alamy fairly easily via the list of sources on the left side; you can see Veer from the watermark, but they aren't in the list on the left. None of the Corbis names (Ivy, blue, ...) bring up the Veer images. They don't list Inmagine, or 123rf but by looking at CanStock (which sends content to its parent company Fotosearch) and 123rf portfolios, I was able to pretty clearly see it was 123rf. I haven't uploaded since early 2012 to 123rf, whereas CanStock, Alamy are up to date. Veer images are marked and I only have 800+ there. This is such a mess (a) because they have multiple copies of the same image and (b) because they're at different prices.One, two, three. The price for the largest size ranges from 200 Czech crowns to 600 to 9,100 depending on which copy you buy (~$11 to ~ $33 to ~$500) If I swtich the language from Czech to English (using the site's option to do so, not Google translate), some of the copies of the image stay around and one says "Object id 0141117161 was deleted"So I guess they only have rights from some of their suppliers to sell it in certain markets? I can switch to Hungarian for that image and it still shows. This explains why my portfolio size there is only 2K+ images if I set the site to English. I suppose it's not entirely my problem that they're doing this and my name doesn't appear anywhere - I'm just artist PC-0128468216! But it just looks so stupid and I hate to see my work on a site that looks stupid. For the item with the Veer watermark, the prices in crowns translate to $2.75 for the small size and $33 for the largest which is reasonably close to the $2 to $30 that Veer charges for that itemThe more I learn about these partner deals the less I like them. And why would a buyer shop there given what a total shambles the "store" is?
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« on: February 05, 2013, 17:29 »
I can understand coming from a google web search... but how many actually come from google image searches?
The better Google image search gets - the more appealing it is to use - the more that will be the entrance point for legitimate licensers IMO. Look at the experimental image search SS did recently - it's beautiful to look at and looks a lot like a color coordinated version of Google Image search. I'd much rather use something like that than most of the existing agency searches (if the matches to keywords would work, which it doesn't much with SS's color search.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 16:04 »
If I had to pick just one, it would be terrible communications. They don't keep contributors informed about anything going on with the site in a timely enough manner. We're always finding things out and then what else there might be that we haven't noticed.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 15:59 »
It's not a question of it being wrong, but look at the other search engines to see what they do. Much more helpful and Getty is much less helpful
Instead of having to specify I want Maine in the US, they give me that by default - possibly because I'm coming from a computer in the USA
And it's about making intelligent guesses and putting them in the right order - of course I can narrow things down if I type in many search terms.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 15:57 »
I thought I'd set $10 for the 25 trial images I uploaded directly (I have some there from Pixmac which will come down if ever Pond 5 reviews my content) but I apparently set $12
I assumed the prices came down from that for the top size (mine are 21MP images) and the default was $1!!
I didn't want to undercut GL stock where I set the top price as $10
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« on: February 05, 2013, 15:45 »
The Yahoo image search with Getty's connect built in produces just horrible results - courtesy, I think, of the Getty CV. I wrote a blog post about it with some image examples. This is what a search for Maine produced from Yahoo image search (click for full size and see the Google and Bing comparisons in the blog post)  I'm not sure I can untangle the Google/Getty/Yahoo tangle, but I'm very wary - would be delighted to be surprised to find it's a great new revenue source for contributors
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« on: February 05, 2013, 13:21 »
Check the sample size of your eyedropper tool. If it's set to something huge it will affect behavior in the adjustment layers too and I can mangle your image that way (I did a screen shot of your screen shot just to see if I could make that happen)
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« on: February 05, 2013, 13:13 »
Have you checked under your username and your real name "john doe" with the quotes, for some contributors images on Thinkstock show up partly under one and partly under the other.
If you mean me, I know that my images have always shown up with my full name and not my iStock member name. I have checked to see with all four permutations (single vs double quotes and member name vs real name) I saw 2496 images there before I deactivated and see 409 now, 297 of which should go
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« on: February 05, 2013, 13:11 »
The problem is that Google is not hosting the content. The person hosting the content is probably legally using it. It would only harm them to attempt to tell Google to block it. It is the nature of the software itself, not individual stolen images, which is the problem.
So is it feasible to send a request to Google to cease and desist using the software to access our copyrighted images? If so, would it be beneficial to have a standard request letter drawn up by a willing attorney and those who want to use it can each pay the attorney a small fee (to license the letter, I guess).
Please, explain to me, how can Google ...using the software to access our copyrighted images...? They can only link to thumbnails on DT web page, not to source files in computers! I made small experiment with my "bestseller": googled electronic-door-lock-dreamstime and find my image on first page as 3-d. "View original image" was linked to DT thumbnail, no problems! Repeating this in DT search, i find my image on 9-th place, approximately the same results. It look, after some time buyers will search images only on Google and site admins will loss benefits manipulate with search engine!
You're completely missing the point because you're searching for your own images and - luckily for you - that image isn't being used in a large size by a legitimate buyer whose web site has the image visible to Google's search Do a google image search for dreamstime - nothing else. Look at the huge sizes of unwatermarked images that are available (a) without visiting the hosting web site, which is loosing visitors and (b) for free download Be thankful none of those images are yours, but be somewhat empathetic that a lot of other people's best selling images are caught up in this mess.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 13:03 »
My number of files on Thinkstock hadn't changed this morning (409) so I made a list of 297 file numbers and opened an iStock support ticket to get them removed.
There might be a faster way to do this, but to get the list I set my Thinkstock portfolio search to show 20 per page (makes the selection easier); select the 20 images (thumbnails and all); copy; paste them into a text editor - you get a number on one line, "istockphoto" on the next line then a couple of blank lines.
Repeat that for all the pages (I skipped the first few pages as they were images I've left on iStock).
In my text editor (Text Wrangler) I can do a gobal search & replace for the line breaks, iStockphoto & line break, putting comma space in as the replace string which gives me a comma separated list of the image numbers alone.
I'll post back here once the images are gone.
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« on: February 05, 2013, 11:55 »
Problem one http://forums.adobe.com/message/4115673Problem 2 Where are you clicking with the eyedropper when you get all black or white? Do you have any auto-select options on in menus? You can also reset all your prefs, but that's a bit of a sledgehammer
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« on: February 05, 2013, 01:35 »
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« on: February 05, 2013, 01:21 »
Lots of changes - negatives for buyers and contributors - during that time. Can't recall about site outages or functionality losses as that's all so hard to track. Sept 2010 was when they announced the RC scheme and Jan 2011 was when it started. Vetta prices went up, Agency Collection on iStock was introduced and a bunch of Getty content started flooding over to iStock
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« on: February 04, 2013, 20:44 »
Even if Dreamstime isn't perfect, having someone go to bat with Google on contributors' behalf is a good thing, IMO. We aren't exactly spoiled for choice in terms of agencies rushing to our aid, and I think that old expression about not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good times to mind.
Of the three agencies I contacted about this, Dreamstime was the only one to even respond to my support ticket so far (although they said they weren't sure what could be done). I don't expect anything from iStock because they're trying to get in bed with Google and won't likely want to upset that apple cart.
I did make a post on that blog this afternoon:
"I love how your new image search looks, but you're not respecting the sources of copyrighted content - images and the pages that host them - in effectively encouraging users to bypass the web site and ignore the copyright. Stay with Google and download what you need - but what about the owners of that content?
If you don't consider the rights of the copyright holders, in time there won't be content for you to index and provide search results to - photographers and web site developers need to be compensated for their work, not just have it hijacked by a spiffy new search tool"
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« on: February 04, 2013, 16:31 »
I haven't had a chance to deactivate my images. However, I have a lot of images that were taken at iStock minilypse events so they can only be sold on istock. I'm thinking of leaving those there and just removing all the other items. Any one else with this situation? Do you plan to remove images taken at istock events (minilypse/istockalypse) and just let them languish on your hard drive?
@cathy That was probably me. I left 153 iStockalypse and editorial images on the site (deactivated 2,496 others). Jami, I didn't see any reason to pull the editorial images as I'm not selling them anywhere else (I'm not selling much of them at iStock either!). Likewise, the iStockalypse images I left as I can't sell them anywhere else anyway
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« on: February 04, 2013, 10:56 »
I can see stats again, but nothing I'd describe as "... for most dynamic contributor related features. " I can't see any differences at all. I also didn't see my 12 month total change and shouldn't that change at the beginning of each month? I don't upload to 123rf any more, so perhaps that's where these dynamic features are?
Does anyone else see any new contributor features?
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« on: February 04, 2013, 10:49 »
My Thinkstock total didn't budge overnight - still at 409 - so I don't know if the connector only works weekends or broke, or...
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« on: February 04, 2013, 01:47 »
Without seeing your portfolio, it's a bit of a guess, but I would say that you should easily be able to beat that income by uploading elsewhere. Look at the income numbers on the right and see where DT ranks in the top 4 - they just can't break out of that "bottom of the top tier" slot that they've held since I first started with them (in 2004).
You don't say if you do vectors or raster illustrations, but every agency except iStock will be fine with raster illustrations; iStock makes it hard to get raster illustrations accepted and refuses JPEGs of vector-created art. They are OK with scans or photos of paintings, watercolors and other "real world" media.
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« on: February 03, 2013, 14:29 »
I think this might be the best place to keep track of progress - my portfolio on iStock went from 2638 to 153 on D-Day. While I was still deleting on iStock, my Thinkstock total was slowing going down and it has continued the trickle.
This morning (Pacific Time) it's at 1,772 - from 2486 on Jan 28th
I'll keep monitoring - obviously I want those files gone ASAP versus in several weeks; I could argue that as I have removed the right to license that file from iStock that they have no right to continue to sell it anywhere even if they have some time to take it down according to the ASA. If for some reason something ended up on Google Drive during this limbo time, I would be royally ticked off.
This evening (nearly 11pm PST) my total's at 409
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« on: February 03, 2013, 11:20 »
For 2012 (not entirely typical)
November December October September May April June July March August February January
More typical (2010)
November March October September August May December July April June February January
2012 wasn't typical because I was in the process of returning from exclusivity (IS) to independence
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