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« on: March 09, 2023, 02:04 »
I have this for an image I deleted myself. It shows up as a blank white image in my bestseller list. Did you delete any of your images or ever got a notification from Shutterstock that any of your images were deleted?
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« on: March 07, 2023, 09:56 »
Elon Musk in a nutshell.
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« on: March 03, 2023, 03:07 »
A quick note to confirm the last few questions...
Due to the current conversion to USD, a withdrawal is temporarily not possible.
As of Friday, March 3, the payout will be possible again.
Future payouts will be processed in US Dollars.
Thank you,
Mat Hayward
thieves.
? Bizare comment... a US company pays you in US $ for you to convert into your own currency at the official exchange rate and you call them thieves?
...while the same US company charges its EU customers in a higher price. It's a bit sad to see how fiercly you are defending Adobe's latest actions, just because you and a very few people from one single country profit from it, when you very well know that in the whole sheme it means Adobe pays out much less of what it gets from customers to its contributors and this is just a sheme to maximaze profit on the backs of contributors.
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« on: March 02, 2023, 14:20 »
Maybe some stock agencies offer the possibility to exclude the use of your content in certain context... options here are very limited I guess.
I know that SS has an option (or at least used to) to exclude sexual and political content, but that's it. I don't know of any agency that would allow you to exclude usage for news or medical content.
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« on: March 01, 2023, 13:13 »
We are not responsible for the license terms
That's a strange view of things. You think because you are not the one who made the license terms you bear no responsibility? Tell that to the next thief who buys your image and re-sells it on another agencie and watch him tell you that he did nothing wrong, because he "is not responsibility" for the agencie's terms that do not allow re-selling of images. No, you are not responsible for the license terms, but you are responsible for following them if you want to use and sell DALL-E images. You agreed to these terms. And if DALL-E says "This image must not be used in political/medical/news content" and you agreed to that, then you can't sell them to customers who use them in political/medical/news content and really claim that you bear no responsibility in this and there was nothing you could have done to prevent this?
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« on: February 28, 2023, 01:53 »
DALL-E could be use for Adobe Stock or another agency?
i only see this about.
https://platform.openai.com/docs/usage-policies/disallowed-usage
Not my field of expertise, but I guess it can get you, theoretically, in trouble.
You generate an AI image, submit it to Adobe Stock, where it finds it's way to a customer who uses it for political campaigning.
Sure, how the image is used is beyond your control as you cannot specify the usage conditions or context, but it's still an image that you generated via OpenAI and your responsibility to make sure it's usage is not in violation with the openAI policies?
I'd say everyone is correct, just one emphasis: "We dont allow the use of our models for the following:"
No models, no problem?
Hm. Interesting. I did not interpret "models" as "people", I thought they refered to their AI APs as "models", because that's what they call them here: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/overviewAnd if that's what they mean by models then it's rather "no models, no DALL-E, no problem".
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« on: February 27, 2023, 08:04 »
DALL-E could be use for Adobe Stock or another agency?
i only see this about.
https://platform.openai.com/docs/usage-policies/disallowed-usage
Not my field of expertise, but I guess it can get you, theoretically, in trouble.
You generate an AI image, submit it to Adobe Stock, where it finds it's way to a customer who uses it for political campaigning.
Sure, how the image is used is beyond your control as you cannot specify the usage conditions or context, but it's still an image that you generated via OpenAI and your responsibility to make sure it's usage is not in violation with the openAI policies?
Same goes for this: "Consumer-facing uses of our models in medical, financial, and legal industries; in news generation or news summarization; and where else warranted, must provide a disclaimer to users informing them that AI is being used and of its potential limitations" Consumer-facing means dealing with people who buy products or services, so this includes a lot of commercial usage in medical, financial, legal, & news fields - That's quite a broad field of usage where DALL requires a note that the content is AI generated. But how do you make sure customers who buy the image from an agency add that note, when the agencies themselves do not require such a note from the customers, so the customers would not even know about this?
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« on: February 27, 2023, 04:12 »
Did Adobe not know they can PAY in euros? Canstock just changed this to our benefit : I am EARNING in dollars at Canstock, but I'm PAID in euros, so I can skip the Paypal fee there.
Same with Alamy. My earnings are displayed in $, but I get paid in .
Did you think you were getting the exact exchange rate from Alamy just because you don't see the workings out behind it?
"Section 12.4 of the Contributor contract: Where your chosen currency is not US Dollars, all amounts due to you will be converted from US Dollars to your chosen currency at the exchange rate provided by Alamy or Alamy's Payment Provider on the date that the payment is made or the preceding working day in England. If the exchange rate is provided by Alamy, it will be within 2.5% of the spot rate on that day.".
So, they too take a cut which is no more than 2.5%. Smoke and mirrors. It costs them to convert the currency and they aren't going to do that for nothing! And Alamy's Payment provider does the same to them... which is even less transparent.
You can send dollars directly to your bank... but they too will charge you a commission to cover expenses etc.
No, I can't. Directly from PayPal: We only support transfers in local currency. If you withdraw money from a foreign currency balance, there will be a conversion fee. Paypal uses a crappy conversion rate to convert $ to that is much higher than the actual rate and then on top of that they charge a conversion fee when you want to withdraw $ to a account. If Alamy pays me directly in , I get the crappy conversion rate deal, but I don't have to pay the fee for withdrawing a foreign currency on top of that.
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« on: February 27, 2023, 03:44 »
Did Adobe not know they can PAY in euros? Canstock just changed this to our benefit : I am EARNING in dollars at Canstock, but I'm PAID in euros, so I can skip the Paypal fee there.
Same with Alamy. My earnings are displayed in $, but I get paid in .
460
« on: February 25, 2023, 12:33 »
True but that doesnt mean its right that we should be treated unfairly just to help the EU.
Of course not, I did not say that. All I said was that this is a move by Adobe to drastically reduce contributors' income and that it doesn't matter that a few people will now get more money, when a lot of people will get less, because overall in the end Adobe pays out much less money to contributors than before, but still gets the higher prices from all European customers. It's just a greedy sheme to mask a commission cut. A fair way would be to treat all contributors the same. If an image was sold for a higher price, then the contributor the image belongs to should also get a higher commission, completely regardless of whether he is in the US, the UK, or somewhere in the zone. We should all get the percentage we were promised from a sale, not from some made up $ price that does not equal what the image was really sold for.
461
« on: February 25, 2023, 02:59 »
I am currently get paid in Sterling (British). I am interested to see what British contributors are going to chose?
The complaints at the moment are mainly those in the EU, Euros. The pound has been paid out at 0.75 for years even though $ exchange has been way more favourable so weve been losing out for years more than what the Euro will going forward.
At least going forward any earnings will be based on the exchange rate, what ever it is, and not someones idea of what it should be like 0.75.
Personally, Ill be waiting till after the 28th as it will mean Ill make an extra 100 or more. Exchange rate AS 0.75 vs real 0.83. Payoneer convert for me with no fee and last night with a rate of 0.82.
Yes, people from the UK are the only ones who profit from this change. However, that's just peole from one tiny country - 446.8 MILLION people live in the EU. Out of this only 67 in the UK. So only 15% profit, while for 85% this change will mean a drastic loss in income. Adobe is very clearly the real winner here.
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« on: February 24, 2023, 15:03 »
On Feb 22 the US Copyright Office ruled that AI-generated images CANNOT be copyrighted because they are not 'human-generated'.
https://copyright.gov/docs/zarya-of-the-dawn.pdf
Since microstock agencies require that you own the copyright to images that you submit, it would seem that no one can submit AI images.
Will agencies be able to sell to customers the license to use ANY AI-generated images, if the agencies do not own the copyrights? Are all AI images in the public domain now?
As much as I dislike AI generated images and wish them to all burn in hell, I think there is some confusion here. US Copyright Office ruled that AI-generated images cannot be registered at the US Copyright Office. That doesn't mean that, by law, authors of AI generated content aren't the copyright holders. My images also aren't registered at the US Copyright Office, yet I am still the copyright owner of my images. A registration is not neccessary to own copyright of your image. Even the US copyright Office itself explains it: "Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created."
463
« on: February 24, 2023, 13:55 »
Has anyone managed to change yet. I am paid in (British) and when I clicked on the arrow and went through the payment stage and entered PayPal email, I didn't get any options to change when I got to the end stage and confirm the payment to Paypal. I didn't confirm as I was confused and didn't want to mess it up.
You don't get any option to chose. The change will happen for everyone after the 28th.
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« on: February 24, 2023, 13:20 »
dollar exchange never went down to 1 to 1 apart for a couple of month last year
And even THEN I got less than 1 for a $, because PayPal's exchange rate was worse than the official one and they added their exchange fee.
yes,paypal exchange never matches the official one...at the end we lose around 4/5% ...
It's much more than that. I just did the math for my latest Getty payment, which we also get in $. I got 9,22% less than what I would have gotten if the same amount was given to me in . So Adobe's decision to exchange for $ 1:1 for contributors is really a very drastic reduction in our income.
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« on: February 24, 2023, 11:33 »
dollar exchange never went down to 1 to 1 apart for a couple of month last year
And even THEN I got less than 1 for a $, because PayPal's exchange rate was worse than the official one and they added their exchange fee.
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« on: February 24, 2023, 04:39 »
For me some images get approved almost instantly, some take a few hours right now. They don't approve images as a whole batch anymore. Haven't donbe that in a while, I guess part is AI reviewed, or at least AI pre-sorted, part human reviewed, thus the different review times.
The images that take longer to get reviewed get reviewes within 2-3 days around the weekend and mondays, then around 1-2 days Tuesday and Wednesday and a couple of hours on Thursday and Friday. There always seems to be a backlog from the weekend where not many reviewers seem to work. At least that's how it has been for me for the couple of past weeks.
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« on: February 22, 2023, 12:20 »
If they're so eager to consolidate all currencies, then I'd also like to pay for my Creative Cloud subscription the USD price instead of the more expensive EUR price. But I guess THAT is not possible to do?
I am sure microstock customers from Europe would also LOVE to pay the lower $ prices for images and videos - But they still have to pay the higher prices. So, customers from EU pay higher prices, but contriburors from the EU now get lower $ prices. Somewhere inbetween Adobe gets to keep more money.  This is nothing but a shady method to cut contributors' commissions. I am really trying hard to make a living with microstock, but whenever I have some little sucess in getting closer to my goal, an agency always finds a way to destroy whatever little progress I have been making in income by some new greedy sheme. As if the crazy inflation hasn't been bad enough already. I start to feel like, the more I work, the less money I get and I can't work fast and hard enough to make up for all the reductions in income agencies are throwing at me.
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« on: February 22, 2023, 03:59 »
Maybe you are right.
In my view, however, the wording should have read as follows:
If you wish to request a last payout in your current currency...
Sorry, butr I don't really understand how the wording can be misunderstood, it is really clear: You will receive any future payouts in USD. If you wish to request a payout in your current currency, please log into the contributor portal by February 28, 2023 end of day and submit the request. It's your last chance to get a payment in your old currency.
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« on: February 22, 2023, 03:23 »
If I understand it correctly, we can decide on 28 February that we want to continue to be paid in euros. This way we at least have the opportunity to save another 3% paypal exchange fee.
That would be great, but I am afraid you misunderstood. Feb 28th is the deadline until witch you can request a payout in your old currency for the last time, after that our account will be switched to $, no matter what.
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« on: February 22, 2023, 02:22 »
Turning 1 into 1$ with a 1:1 rate means a huge reduction in my income. 500$ are around 470 and with PayPal's crappy convertion rate and convertion fee that will end up being like 450.
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« on: February 21, 2023, 06:33 »
Lol, you wish.
I believe it was under 5c when they briefly made the mistake of letting see out DL numbers. Sales have only increased, and payments decreased, since then. I would be surprised if it was more than half what you think it is!!!!
0.6 cent is much less than 5c though?
OMG that's appauling, sorry I misread it as 6c!!!!!! Is this correct? have they published this?
Not that I am aware of. I don't see my download numbers, so I can't calculate how much I get per sale. Maybe somethingpretentious will tell us how he got that number.
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« on: February 21, 2023, 03:56 »
Review times on Adobe have always been random for me and waiting times longer than 3 days weren't the norm, but do happen from time to time. On Adobe photos also don't get reviewed in chronological order and some take way longer to be reviewed than others. For me it is mostly images on white background that take much longer to be reviewed than others - no idea why.
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« on: February 21, 2023, 03:34 »
Lol, you wish.
I believe it was under 5c when they briefly made the mistake of letting see out DL numbers. Sales have only increased, and payments decreased, since then. I would be surprised if it was more than half what you think it is!!!!
0.6 cent is much less than 5c though?
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« on: February 16, 2023, 01:06 »
Can anyone show a screenshot?...
This is what I started seeing a few days ago:
Ah, thanks, yes that's the same design I already had for months. It's not so bad really and chosing categotries is indeed faster.
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« on: February 15, 2023, 13:35 »
Who cares any more?
People who still make decenet money from SS? For most contributors here, according to the monthly poll, SS ist still the second best earner.
One of the first things to take into account in surveys is that the sample they primarily represent is "people who participated in the survey."
True, though in this case this doesn't change the answer? Question was "who cares?". Answer is: People who still make money with SS. And if you assume that this is just "people who participated in the survey" then even that doesn't change that among these people there are still people who make money with SS and therefore, most likely, still care.
SS is 1/3rd of what it used to be. That could be how much we have lost or who takes the survey. The numbers become meaningless if the people who make more for past years, stopped taking the survey because they stopped coming to the forum. It's only 50-60 people who take the survey.
And yet, again, that doesn't change anything about the answer to the question "Who cares any more? (Not "how many people care?" or "how many people on this forum care?"). The answer is still the same - The people who still make decent money with SS. I am sure there are pople to whom Shutterstock is not worth it to bother about anymore, but some people like to pretend that just because it wasn't working out for them anymore since the cut in our royalties, it must be the same for everyone and no one was still making decent money with it and therefore no one cared about SS anymore. Shutterstock still gets around 40.000.000 (!!) new images each year, so someone must care enough to bother uploading images. I know I would not bother uploading to any agenciy that generated so little earnings, that I couldn't even be bothered to "care" about them.
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