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Looking through my things although the highest sellers do seem to tally the rest of the portfolio really seems to have nothing in common with the SS popularity and usage ratings at all.

As someone says above, the "Get it now while its hot!" style comments look more to be a psychological nudge.

Given they don't actually define what the words or meanings actually are then its probably not illegal.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Level reset - the damage!
« on: February 01, 2022, 15:01 »
So why always so negative? (this applies here in principle to the whole forum) :D

It's realism not negative.  Ultimately the change will cost most people hundreds of dollars or more.  That isn't a positive.
Combine that with the cut price packages further reducing that (and the switch to a percentage based model) its definitely not a positive.

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Shutterstock.com / Level reset - the damage!
« on: February 01, 2022, 13:45 »
OK so January is over so the full scale of the SS level reset can be seen.

For reference i finished the year on levels 5 images and 4 video to give it context and finished January on levels 4/2.



Firstly the earnings graph (actual figures removed due to T&Cs etc etc).
Can see (i) how brutal the reset is and how similar it was to last years as well.  Download numbers also near identical.

Now for the RPDs:


Actually seeing an even lower image RPD than last year although video is *slightly* better.

RPD a mere $0.32 per image (2021 average $0.72) and for video $7.35 (2021 average $12.42)

Unexpectedly given the time of year Adobe provided me with a best month ever in earnings and just over double what SS provided.


In short as expected the level reset makes for a fairly horrible January.  Will see what Feb brings as i slowly crawl back up to where i was before.


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Suspect they're using AI to make a hash of the image and using that to judge a similar and nothing more.
That in theory would also be REALLY fast to search the whole catalogue once generated.
Im far less convinced a real person reviewer looks at any of the images outside that batch in question.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: 0.25$ footage sales
« on: January 29, 2022, 09:58 »
2 x 0.25 for the same clip on same day currently....

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Adobe Stock / Re: Keyword ordering on uploaded images messed up?
« on: January 28, 2022, 14:46 »
I'm sorry, but no. I don't know the answer to this one though your feedback about the confusion is understood and noted. I'll be sure to provide updates here when available.

Hi Matt, just a suggestion to AS (don't take this as a snarky comment - its not intended as such), it might be an idea that when changes like this are made that alter the way things are done from a years old system everyone understands to notify contributors either via email or a popup in the contributor portal.  I suspect most people don't see this forum and might be confused or unaware what's going on.

A.S. customer comms etc is far better than any other agency I use but this could be somewhere to improve.


(FWIW with CSVs i use them for video and its quite an annoying extra step when uploading to multiple agencies all of which use slightly different fields and formats etc.)

Ultimately the change is a good thing so no reason to hide it.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Keyword ordering on uploaded images messed up?
« on: January 27, 2022, 14:31 »
Not sure i follow what's going on here...

I have a photo in Lightroom, my keywords are always pasted from a .xls in priority order.
On export the "Tags" field shows them in alphabetical in Windows.  In Bridge they also show as alphabetical.

On upload to AS its showing as priority order - can you confirm exactly what exif fields its reading/writing to here as the difference between Bridge and LR seemingly hidden is confusing.

To confuse matters, if i add priority order into Bridge by pasting in (my normal workflow) and upload then it ignores the Bridge changes.

I often import images into LR using non-stock keywords (a persons name, specific location, sometimes a pets name) and the subsection of images i use for stock get re-keyworded after the editing stage so this could affect me.

Im happy that AS  can read keyword order from LR now as it should in theory simplify my workflow but not if its taking ghost keywords that no longer exist...

But mainly my question is, what field is LR writing to and AS reading that i cant see looking at the metadata itself?  (Ive just uploaded 150 images in a batch today so looks like i need to delete, re-export,re-upload).





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Adobe Stock / Keyword ordering on uploaded images messed up?
« on: January 27, 2022, 13:02 »
Just tried to upload a batch of images using my usual method - Bridge to set keywords in priority order then upload.
All of the uploaded images have the order messed up - sometimes its alphabetical, some times it seems completely random so it looks like it's ignored the file settings.

Anyone else experience this?

(They all show in priority order on the jpg themselves locally)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Drop in sales - is it only me?...
« on: January 21, 2022, 07:37 »
Im showing almost exactly the same rate of sales (in terms of number of downloads) as last January (with a 8% bigger portfolio).

Im also seeing an identical 75% loss of revenue as last January due to the level reset and time to go back up through them.

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At this rate, I'll have to go back to January 1930 to find similarly low earnings.

At least $5 was a lot of money in 1930!

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SSTK is making money, they are losing money on the majority of 10 downloads. Especially from the 750 packs. How can that be? And personally my downloads volume is down, which means besides making less for each one, I'm getting less volume.

This just doesn't add up?

I suspect they're making money on the 10c massive subscription packages purely because a large number of buyers don't download their full quota every month.
So they get all the package revenue but only pay out for the images sold.

Contrast this to IS who calculate payments based on what was actually bought and sold.

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Level 2...for $28 in total *.

OK so its Christmas and new year holiday week but i'd normally be on 4-5x that money by this date.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: First full year of the "levels"
« on: January 02, 2022, 09:14 »
There are 2 ways of looking at this.

If you shoot content specifically to sell on stock than all the equipment, time spent and so on has to be balanced against that so a time or RPD becomes relevant.

However, if you shoot content for elsewhere as part of a day job etc and also upload that to stock then a lot of the gear, time and so on is already invested outside stock so RPD is less relevant and the money is the only useful metric.

Im lucky (or was pre covid!) in that the things i put on stock are almost all obtained and edited as part of the day job so the extra resources needed to upload and keyword are minimal.  So for me theres no real negative shovelling the stuff on even if RPD is low.



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Shutterstock.com / Re: First full year of the "levels"
« on: January 01, 2022, 15:46 »

Anyone who is still uploading to help these two is insane.

So thousands of dollars of income is "insane" vs a guaranteed zero?

Really?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: First full year of the "levels"
« on: January 01, 2022, 13:50 »
Interesting results.  The levels do seem to make a huge hit initially at least.
My portfolio has only increased by maybe 1000 images and 300 video in the last 12 months (covid related lack of work) which is treading water and sinking slightly.

Ive just worked out Adobe in terms of revenue has pulled in $1000 less than Shutterstock *but* due to not having editorial means my portfolio there is smaller.  Its also grown year on year whereas SS has shrunk.  On current trends 2022 could be the year Adobe overtakes SS for total annual revenue.

I was sticking to RPD for my calculations to try to factor out things like portfolio size changes etc.  Firn is of course right that ultimately the actual money coming in is likely the most important provided it doesn't take excessive extra time to produce.

In terms of raw download numbers, 2021 was above average for both images and video - the drop in RPD was the main issue.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Looking back at SS a brief history
« on: December 31, 2021, 13:59 »
The introduction of "nearly free" streaming and subscription services have made it very easy for people to steal videos now.

Also whereas its relatively easy to see which sites (and who) are selling still images, the tech for doing the same with video really hasnt caught up yet.


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Shutterstock.com / First full year of the "levels"
« on: December 31, 2021, 11:54 »
Just run through my yearly SS figures so the first 12 months of the level system.

Firstly, January as expected was a huge drop.  Over 80% decrease in revenue.

One thing that did surprise me for video in particular is just how random the RPD for video was regardless of level.  The graphs are all over the place throughout the year.  So many special offers/giveaways and so on the thing varies by a factor of 3 from month to month despite actual volume remaining fairly constant.
Both do show a shallow increase throughout the year which makes the reset even hard to stomach.  Somewhat surprising of an increasing average despite constant levels though.

Data set is likely large enough to not have huge fluctuations from individual freak sales.

Overall average for year RPD for video $12.40 and images $0.72
(Contrast with roughly $19 video and $0.98 before the new system).

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Shutterstock.com / Re: strange behavior of the 'to submit' folder
« on: November 26, 2021, 19:02 »
Noticed the same this week - always "1" to submit regardless of the actual number.

Had several dashboard timeouts too.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: How does this stuff get through?
« on: November 10, 2021, 08:47 »
"They do check, I don't know how much, but I had a rejection for "this image was accepted in error" last year."

Ive seen that where things such as national trust properties and certain buildings got through and then a routine search (or complaint later) means they do.

There was a huge purge years ago when the UK National Trust when full gestapo against stock agencies.  Quite a few people had that reason for removed content.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Focus Pocus?!
« on: November 10, 2021, 08:45 »
Im not sure you can really say that without a control.

From my experience resubmitting exactly the same thing with no changes at all often gets accepted regardless.

It could just be that effect.

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Contributors are not employees.
They're non-exclusive suppliers and can walk away at any time.
All this talk of writing to politicians and unions is rubbish - the truth is as a supplier its entirely your choice whether to accept the terms or not.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Focus Pocus?!
« on: November 02, 2021, 13:02 »
Certainly a few months ago and last year it was an issue.
Theory is the initial AI screening works out a "sharpness" score with a threshold and foliage,leaves confuses it.
Similar issue with video as well.

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Shutterstock.com / Video upload issues?
« on: November 01, 2021, 11:37 »
Anyone seeing any video upload problems?
I sent a load last night and they didn't appear, tried again today, those haven't appeared either.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Video upload problems?
« on: November 01, 2021, 08:47 »
* Accidental post*

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There's no sanity checking of SS keywords.
A few times over the years i've accidentally incorrectly tagged entire batches due to CSV or copy/paste messes.
Not a single one has ever been rejected for keywords despite literally not a single word being relevant or in any way related to the content.

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