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4576
« on: October 07, 2009, 09:28 »
Didn't IS give up on prints because there was so little demand? I've averaged one print sale for every 15K standard licenses.
I find it difficult to believe there's going to be much of a market for DT but I guess it does no harm to try. I think to succeed in print sales you'd need to offer the full range of frames, canvas, block prints, etc. Most people would want to buy a finished article that they could visualise on-screen.
4577
« on: October 07, 2009, 04:25 »
Just happened to glance over to the right and noticed 123 took a spot on the Big 6. When did they knock BigStock out of place?
Those poll results are hugely skewed towards the smaller agencies with less stringent contributor requirements by newbies and/or those with small portfolios. For example a newbie with just a few images and who cannot get accepted by IS has the same voting weight as someone with a huge portfolio and several hundred thousand sales. Newbies are probably more likely to vote too. I'd take those 'results' with a fairly hefty pinch of salt.
4578
« on: October 06, 2009, 19:15 »
Why do you think IS and SS have such handy lists of 'best selling images'? Who do you think they are intended to be used by?
4579
« on: October 06, 2009, 17:40 »
Some of the images have gone from StockXpert, but not all (one of the three of mine is still up; several of the lady liberty shots are even though one or two have gone). I've contacted IS again about this to let them know and urge them again to work to get StockXpert to pull the whole portfolio.
Submitters who repeatedly and willfully violate the terms of the upload agreement should not be allowed to be submitters, even for the images to which they do own the copyright. Otherwise how to discourage anyone from doing this, taking the money and running when caught?
Well, I guess you could always go on a date with him __ he certainly owes you a good meal and a drink from the money he's made from your stuff; http://www.matchmaker.com/ComposeMail.do?to=fritzkocher&no_user=rso
4580
« on: October 06, 2009, 17:33 »
I hadn't thought of that. This does offer validation for uploading both orientations, even isolated.
Not sure what the solution is then. There has to be some middle ground where we upload enough views to satisfy the buyers and turn up in relevant searches, but without uploading dozens of practically identical images like the linked portfolio. Definitely that appears to be overkill.
I'd like to see upload limits based on the individual contributor's sales and acceptance record __ similar to IS but perhaps not as severe. It would save hugely on admin costs and it would improve the overall quality of the library and searches. Of course doing what Antoniomp does is a fairly pointless exercise anyway as any sales are likely to be spread amongst virtually identical images and will slow promotion to the higher levels.
4581
« on: October 06, 2009, 16:35 »
I think it is perfectly valid to upload a vertical and horizontal view of an object (in this case plates of food). However, as Alias points out, when something is isolated on white vertical or horizontal is irrelevant because the buyer can easily crop or add white space to get any orientation they want.
Jonathan's suggestion posted in another thread, about creating a square image that can be cropped either way, would be an ideal solution for a lot of these pictures.
Trouble is some buyers don't think that way. I've got a buddy who buys images, usually from FT, and before he does the search he decides whether he needs a vertical or horizontal image to fit the slot he wants to drop it into. He then clicks the appropriate Horizontal or Vertical button to exclude all others. Square images won't appear on either search option btw. It doesn't even occur to him that he could buy a larger image and simply crop it. He hates spending time searching (he's a printer and is working to a client's rough brief) as he thinks it is a waste of his valuable time. He's never really considered charging a 'search fee' as often the projects are very small.
4582
« on: October 06, 2009, 14:15 »
Many of these agencies require identification to set up accounts, and surely if he had enough sales to get payouts there would be financial records too - shouldn't it then be possible for someone who's had their material stolen to track him down if he's in the US as he says he is?
Doesn't Istock claim to better protect exclusive contributors? Maybe its time for a precedent to be set?
Of course offering an image for 'resale', which is effectively what he has done, would have required an EL anyway. Jo Anne could certainly ask IS to persue him in that regard (as the only place he could have bought her images). IS should have all his details and he may still have money in his account.
4583
« on: October 06, 2009, 09:02 »
Looks like Fotolia have shut down fritzkocher's account too now. Good. What an idiot. He describes himself as a designer so should have known much better and it's bizarre that he thought he could get away with it. Mind you he did manage to sell over 14K licenses at SS as well as having several other microstock accounts so he did make a few thousand $'s before he got caught. Here he is on the SS forums; http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/search.php?search_author=fritzkocher%40hotmail.
4585
« on: October 06, 2009, 05:22 »
You already are halfway there- what about Leaf creating a forum section on MSG specifically for reporting possible infringements, with a nice big legal disclaimer on top that any "outings" are purely opinions of MSG members. I would only worry about people who have been caught out focusing on MSG for revenge - but if you are going to be naming ports and giving links here anyhow, it might as well be organized. If implemented effectively then it may get enough publicity to act as a deterrent - I think the thiefs rely on the lack on cohesion between agencies and a community report system (like the Vegas card counter system mentioned) would have a real effect.
Keep it in a simple format - one legit version of the image, and one link to hacked/appropriated version, and a short bit of evidence as to how you know which is the legit version.
With enough momentum maybe it could be turned into a subscription service that the agencies can pay for access too. This kind of problem is currently not able to be solved by image recognition technology alone, the artist's brain can process their entire portfolio in a second with much more intuitive results - and you are the bees buzzing between agencies so you see a broader perspective of images than an individual agency business unit.
That's a very good idea Zymm. Take a Heart!
4586
« on: October 05, 2009, 12:37 »
Companies don't buy competitors to keep them up and running, offering buyers a multitude of choices and keeping prices down.
Yes they do __ all the time. There are hundreds of well-known examples ... Manfrotto bought out Gitzo in 1992, BMW owns Rolls Royce, Ford used to own Jaguar but then sold it to Tata, etc, etc.
4587
« on: October 05, 2009, 11:26 »
Please name and shame both the thief and the agency in question (especially the latter). Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
4588
« on: October 05, 2009, 05:18 »
"From the company that was first to bring an extended licensing option to the microstock world, comes the launch of Fotolia University."
December 2005: Here's where Bruce announces ELs coming to iStock: http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=27732&messageid=375641 January 2006: Fotolia announces ELs: http://www.designtaxi.com/news.php?id=1736
So, I wouldn't say they were the "first".
Nice 'blast from the past' Sean! That wasn't actually IS announcing EL's as a new thing, just that the process was becoming automated like regular RF sales. We were selling EL's before that but it involved Support emailing the contributor for their consent, etc. It is quite disturbing the way FT cheerfully re-write the history books in their favour everytime they make an announcement. It wouldn't surprise me if they claim to have discovered penicillin and television in their next news release.
4589
« on: October 04, 2009, 11:34 »
I'd be interested to see which agencies are using his services because personally I can't see any of the big one's letting the reviewing go 'out of house', I can see this would be an advantage to a start up or some of the minor players though.
Hmm __ it might not be entirely coincidental that they happen to be 'just down the street' from DT! I can see advantages in reviewers being trained and monitored from one place and also consistency in the numbers of images being reviewed per day/week. That must be difficult to control with maybe up to 100 individuals dotted around the globe. If SS are approving up to 90K images per week then it is feasible that nearly double that figure might actually be being submitted. That's about 250 man-days per week reviewing at the speed discussed above. It is way bigger than the 'cottage industry' it was 3-4 years ago.
4590
« on: October 04, 2009, 10:38 »
Are you telling me you haven't contacted Dreamstime or Fotolia yet!! have you considered going on a sales course, here's a couple more for you - try iStockphoto and Shutterstock just in case their staff don't notice this thread when they pop by.
Oh __ tsk, tsk! It's an interesting thread and the more we contributors understand about the inner-workings of the industry, the various players and how it is all developing then the better for us. I have to say I have never been a fan of 'out-sourcing' though for a variety of reasons. It generally costs more to employ someone to employ someone else on your behalf and you have less control (NB: no need to come back with your sales pitch Mark __ I'm not buying!).
4591
« on: October 04, 2009, 05:07 »
Taking the median of the figures you quoted, say 800 images per day, would require the reviewer to inspect an image every 35 secs throughout an 8-hour day. Every day. I don't envy them.
4592
« on: October 03, 2009, 19:21 »
There does seem to be a drop in Dreamstime over the past couple of months compared to their competition, I notice a lot of other people posted the same results. I wonder what is going on over there, customer service is a bit different as well. I think their default search-order results are a real hindrance to growth both for them and for us. The existing system seems to continually group lots of similar images (which are often poor images too) from the same contributor. It must be extremely tiresome for a busy buyer to have to wade through the dross to find where they've buried the good stuff. They need to look at what IS & SS have done combining keyword relevance and popularity of images.
4593
« on: October 02, 2009, 18:31 »
For me they are simply the best.
You appear to have lots of things to moan about every agency, PedroV. May I suggest a different hobby?
... is the right answer.
4594
« on: October 01, 2009, 18:07 »
by the way doesn't shutterstock have "credit sales" already through their on demand sales ??
Yes __ and for me those on-demand sales are already 2-3x more than BigStock brings in.
4595
« on: October 01, 2009, 14:42 »
Not a chance in that time-scale. I'm more concerned for SS to maintain their earnings to be honest, in comparison BigStock are almost an irrelevance.
Even if SS were to work miracles with BigStock it is unlikely to be all 'new' money __ most of it will be trying to grab market-share from the others.
I'm unsure whether it is actually in our interests for BigStock to succeed anyway as, with their commission as low as 20%, they are about the worst deal in the industry. I'd like to see their commissions raised to a minimum of 35% before anything else.
4596
« on: October 01, 2009, 11:40 »
My September as follows (with 2008);
IS 36.9 (36.3) SS 22.9 (27.5) DT 11.0 (11.8 ) FT 19.6 (16.6) StockXpert 6.3 (6.1) BigStock 2.6 (1.7) R.Fi 0.7 (0)
BME overall. After a quiet summer FT have continued their inexorable rise and are now starting to challenge SS for second place in my earnings. It looks from my graph that FT are grabbing market share from SS & DT although IS looks relatively unaffected. BigStock did surprisingly well although from a very low base.
4597
« on: October 01, 2009, 08:18 »
With answers like these it becomes clear why photos sell for pennies, photography is devaluated as it is and so many consider themselves "professional photographers" ... 
Maybe you could help us by defining what you mean by "professional photographer"?
4598
« on: October 01, 2009, 05:08 »
I wouldn't bother personally with the 5D Mark1, we are talking over six year old technology here ....
Six years? On which planet? If you'd bought a 5D when it was first available it would still be less than 3 years old. With microstock (as with most photography applications) the requirement is 'good enough' to pass the quality and size thresholds. In that regard the 5D will probably never become obsolete in that it already exceeds the quality requirement for all current uses of the images.
4599
« on: September 30, 2009, 17:17 »
Not to mention, IS/Getty getting rid of JIU and photo.com subs via StockXpert at 30 cents (already too low) and giving us the opportunity to sell them at those places for 25 cents. 
That's not actually happened yet, although it was announced months ago, and not even a firm date when it will. Clearly there are more issues or difficulties (or maybe it will contribute less to the bottom-line) than originally planned. Keep 'em crossed.
4600
« on: September 29, 2009, 03:40 »
Actual size of the image is clearly indicated on mouse-over. I guess the upscaling is a service for which it is not unreasonable to charge an additional credit or two for.
With the number and quality of images available, together with the RF license, I don't think any buyer can possibly consider themselves ripped off at these prices. If anyone is being ripped-off it is us the contributors but that's our choice and market forces.
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