Quote from: Zero Talent on July 04, 2023, 02:47
PS. There is no chance that I would ever share my trade secret with you!
Not even if you pay me for a crash course! 

That's a shame. I already had my wallet out.

Good idea.  My first real job was delivering newspapers when I was in Jr. High and that allowed me to buy my first camera.  So, yes, that is an excellent place to start.

Quote from: blvdone on July 03, 2023, 23:39

Quote from: Doug Jensen on July 03, 2023, 23:37

Quote from: blvdone on July 03, 2023, 23:35
I think I have to buy his "How to make $$$ uploading videos to Shutterstock" tutorial video.  I'm nowhere near making $350/hr.  I've been doing this totally wrong way.

That might be true about doing it the wrong way.  What is your process?  I'd be happy to take a look at your best clips and give you some free feedback on the subject matter, editing, grading, and of course, the all important metadata.  Post a link.

It's OK.  I'm too embarrassed after seeing your $$$ figure.  I totally suck at this.  I should go back to delivering newspapers.

Good idea.  My first real job was delivering newspapers when I was in Jr. High and that allowed me to buy my first camera.  So, yes, that is an excellent place to start.

Quote from: blvdone on July 03, 2023, 23:35
I think I have to buy his "How to make $$$ uploading videos to Shutterstock" tutorial video.  I'm nowhere near making $350/hr.  I've been doing this totally wrong way.

That might be true about doing it the wrong way.  What is your process?  I'd be happy to take a look at your best clips and give you some free feedback on the subject matter, editing, grading, and of course, the all important metadata.  Post a link and I'll do my best to get you headed in the right direction.

Quote from: blvdone on July 03, 2023, 23:31
U R the GOAT!!

Oh, I highly doubt that.  I am absolutely certain that there are many people who could put my earnings and hourly wage to shame.  I'm just a yeoman with a little side hustle. That's all.

Quote from: Zero Talent on July 03, 2023, 22:45

Quote from: Doug Jensen on July 03, 2023, 22:37

Quote from: Zero Talent on July 03, 2023, 22:34

Quote from: Elijah on July 03, 2023, 22:06

Quote from: Doug Jensen on July 03, 2023, 17:55

Average time to edit, grade, add metadata, and upload each clip:   5 minutes

Right...

Right, right... and I'm earning ♾️/hour because everything I do is for fun. 

If that is true, then you are a very lucky person.  I hate doing metadata, so that will always be a chore for me and I absolutely must be paid well for doing it.  As shown above, I'm at $348 per hour right now, but I'd keep doing it for 1/3 that.  If it gets down to less than $100 per hour that is the day I will stop submitting.

I am not lucky! ♾️>348. Therefore I am better, despite my lack of talent!
Imagine that!

Congratulations!  I envy your willingness to do it all for free.  But I have better things to do with my time if I'm not being paid.  You are indeed a lucky person.

If you really love doing metadata, and can prove you can actually do it competently, I've got 6500 4K clips that are edited, rendered, and just awaiting metadata before i can upload them.  I'd be more than happy to let you do all the metadata just for fun.  I won't charge you a thing for giving you so much fun, in fact, I would be very thankful for your help.  Please point me to some of your clips so I can judge your ability.  This is gonna be great for both of us!!   Makes me feel a little like Tom Sawyer.

Quote from: Zero Talent on July 03, 2023, 22:34

Quote from: Elijah on July 03, 2023, 22:06

Quote from: Doug Jensen on July 03, 2023, 17:55

Average time to edit, grade, add metadata, and upload each clip:   5 minutes

Right...

Right, right... and I'm earning ♾️/hour because everything I do is for fun. 

If that is true, then you are a very lucky person.  I hate doing metadata, so that will always be a chore for me and I absolutely must be paid well for doing it.  As shown above, I'm at $348 per hour right now, but I'd keep doing it for 1/3 that.  If it gets down to less than $100 per hour that is the day I will stop submitting.

Quote from: Elijah on July 03, 2023, 22:06

Quote from: Doug Jensen on July 03, 2023, 17:55

Average time to edit, grade, add metadata, and upload each clip:   5 minutes

Right...

If it takes you longer than that you must be doing something wrong.  How long does it take you ingest, edit, grade, and create the metadata?  I assure you, 5 minutes is a very conservative number for me.

Hey guys, your favorite arrogant jerk has arrived at the party!!  How ya'll doing?  It is nice to feel your love. Kisses to everyone.

I thought you might like an update on my continued success with stock footage.

As of July 3, 2023
Lifetime earnings at Shutterstock:   $217,011
Lifetime earnings at Adobe:             $23,938
Lifetime earnings at Pond5:             $12,000   (approximate)
Lifetime earnings at Getty:              $13,977
Total:                                                               $266,926

Number of clips in Shutterstock portofilo:  9187  (with far fewer clips at other agencies)

Average earning per clip (so far):    $29.05
Average time to edit, grade, add metadata, and upload each clip:   5 minutes
5 minutes = 12 clips per hour
12 x $29.05 = $348 per hour

So, I've already earned $348 per hour for my work, and those clips continue to earn money everyday. Not as much as they used to due to Shutterstock's changes a couple of years ago (completely out of my control), but I still have a nice steady income stream from work I already did a long time ago.

I have never hidden the fact that I do not factor in my time to shoot stock because I only shoot for fun. There is nothing in my portfolio that I didn't want to shoot or regretted shooting.  It is all fun to me.  No different than other people going fishing or golfing or hiking, etc. which they don't expect to be paid for.  Only a moron can't understand that shooting for stock can be a legitimate leisure activity. Just because you hate it doesn't mean other people don't get pleasure from shooting.

I have also never hidden the fact that I do not factor in the cost of my camera equipment or computer hardware/software because I already own them because I actually work in the TV/video production industry.  My gear is already bought and paid for from other sources and would be just sitting on the shelf gathering dust when I am not working on a paid gig.

So my income for the actual the work and drudgery of stock (creating the metadata) is $348.  The numbers don't lie.  They are just facts.

Now, if YOU think shooting stock is work or a chore or you hate doing it for whatever reason, then YOU should factor that into your own calculations.  If YOU only use your camera gear for stock and never for any other purpose, then YOU should probably factor those costs into your own calculations.   I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT.

So, my friends, success is its own reward.  Please continue with all the put-downs, insults, and name-calling you want.  I'm laughing all the way to the bank while you're all just still whining about how the agencies are out to get you.  Get over it.  If you want to play the victim card, be my guest.