A smart contributor would realize that spreading downloads over an excess of very similar images is not a good strategy when a sort method may include downloads as a variable.

I might agree with that in certain way but DT is going very far on this matter.. they want a picture of a subject or a bunch into a set.. thats isnt going to help stock and also our pockets

no shank no conference, forget guys

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shank are you from this world?? how can you talk like that saying we dont care about IS? thats a joy to hear, lot of folks here have commited a lot of work into pulling portfolios up there WHICH is a MESS overall with the slots, the keywords, the rejections that don�t match pictures (not a lot but some for sure).. and then the WORST paying a low 15%..

I guess you should think first before protecting IS when they were the only ONES screwing our earnings and buyers too.. I don�t make much there or anywhere else but the 15% is a thing to be ashamed and I am sure IS on the first days was too but money TALKS!

Well scotty has not beamed me up just yet....
I'm just in the minority in my thinking as i believe that microstock companys provide a resource for selling my photographs and without it i would be screwed.Some are of the opposite opinion..if it wasent for our work there would be no microstock companies.
What came first,the chicken or the egg.
Istock are still the premier microstock agent and no non exclusive will persuade me otherwise.
RC's were a bitter pill to swallow for most but in the long run people will see the benefit.

 I believe every contributor must try all agencies and feel what works best, then you can go exclusive or quit or other

I used that theory before picking the wife

exactly.. please help me out there too.. brunettes or blondes?? I have found that brunettes seem more insatiable

something on their nose right?

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shank are you from this world?? how can you talk like that saying we dont care about IS? thats a joy to hear, lot of folks here have commited a lot of work into pulling portfolios up there WHICH is a MESS overall with the slots, the keywords, the rejections that don�t match pictures (not a lot but some for sure).. and then the WORST paying a low 15%..

I guess you should think first before protecting IS when they were the only ONES screwing our earnings and buyers too.. I don�t make much there or anywhere else but the 15% is a thing to be ashamed and I am sure IS on the first days was too but money TALKS!

Well scotty has not beamed me up just yet....
I'm just in the minority in my thinking as i believe that microstock companys provide a resource for selling my photographs and without it i would be screwed.Some are of the opposite opinion..if it wasent for our work there would be no microstock companies.
What came first,the chicken or the egg.
Istock are still the premier microstock agent and no non exclusive will persuade me otherwise.
RC's were a bitter pill to swallow for most but in the long run people will see the benefit.

but who is here trying to get you to non-exclusive? I believe every contributor must try all agencies and feel what works best, then you can go exclusive or quit or other

Ok, I must say that after all, its still going slow and that 8/29 minutes etc is just a trick to get more submitters.

I got photos uploaded 3 days ago with releases that were previously accepted (so cannot say that it takes more cause of releases).

I dont have anything aganinst CanStockPhoto but u shouldnt advertise like that if u cant pull it off later.

never waited more time than what the banner says, CanStockPhoto might not have huge sales but in terms of uploading they are sweet

shank are you from this world?? how can you talk like that saying we dont care about IS? thats a joy to hear, lot of folks here have commited a lot of work into pulling portfolios up there WHICH is a MESS overall with the slots, the keywords, the rejections that don�t match pictures (not a lot but some for sure).. and then the WORST paying a low 15%..

I guess you should think first before protecting IS when they were the only ONES screwing our earnings and buyers too.. I don�t make much there or anywhere else but the 15% is a thing to be ashamed and I am sure IS on the first days was too but money TALKS!

1st quarter third party sales have appeared in my account (look under referrals...).
Not much, but at least it's there.

"Change bonus code"... it is my first quarter on the third party I am kind of curious how it went..

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And I wonder why successful photographers re-shoot their best sellers all the time...

They all must be real idiots wasting their time like that...  

There are proven concepts which will work and should be adapted - I agree. And in micro you are forced to using standards to have success - I agree. But some things probably have never really be best sellers and still done over and over again because they are so easy and obvious and/or are typical amateur themes etc. , these themes just fill up the data-base and nobody needs them. So forget about creativity but at least do some research of what is actually selling and is needed.

I believe everything has a time, people starting today won�t produce the same pictures in 2 years after, at least in terms of quality so every subject every picture is a learning procedure and it will only make you a better stock photographer and perhaps a photographer too if agencies keep on approving them and contributors keep on doing them I don�t see your point of only producing GREAT stock pictures and concepts etc etc.. we aren�t kids and we do know what we are doing, thanks anyway 

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it is a nice different picture, never seen something like that I guess..

lol that was cynical, really do the world need any more 'lemon with water bubbles or water splashes' - shots, they are literally hundred of thousands of it, you better go for 'woman with headset' or 'strawberries on white'  .
People do complain about keyword-spamming but image-spamming is so much worse I'm sick of seeing the same shots over and over again, I guess sane buyers must feel the same.

FIRST, I am not cynical, SECOND I still like this picture 2 months and half after saying that

Well it is less clean than most 'lemon with water bubbles' - shots, which is actually a good thing but it won't pass the review process at most microagencies because of that. But 'lemon with water bubbles' really??? Is it really that hard to be creative??

I am not going to spend all my afternoon discussing this topic.. the creativity topic would take us far and perhaps no where.. agencies still approved about "everything" done in perfection and some not that well actually.. everybody has their style, could be only a object or a bunch of them.. but if you look at top contributors there isn�t much creativity (it was 3 or 4 years when they started, now it is just more than what they have already)

of course every time we shoot we chase a different picture, to add something different, special that may not be online.. some will took off other won�t be worth as you know.. overall we just need to keep on producing, improving our work and upload.. and other and other.. raising the bar

okay forget about creativity what about research? We have 2011!

you can add research too and a few more points for sure.. I don�t really what we are heading with this old topic

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it is a nice different picture, never seen something like that I guess..

lol that was cynical, really do the world need any more 'lemon with water bubbles or water splashes' - shots, they are literally hundred of thousands of it, you better go for 'woman with headset' or 'strawberries on white'  .
People do complain about keyword-spamming but image-spamming is so much worse I'm sick of seeing the same shots over and over again, I guess sane buyers must feel the same.

FIRST, I am not cynical, SECOND I still like this picture 2 months and half after saying that

Well it is less clean than most 'lemon with water bubbles' - shots, which is actually a good thing but it won't pass the review process at most microagencies because of that. But 'lemon with water bubbles' really??? Is it really that hard to be creative??

I am not going to spend all my afternoon discussing this topic.. the creativity topic would take us far and perhaps no where.. agencies still approved about "everything" done in perfection and some not that well actually.. everybody has their style, could be only a object or a bunch of them.. but if you look at top contributors there isn�t much creativity (it was 3 or 4 years when they started, now it is just more than what they have already)

of course every time we shoot we chase a different picture, to add something different, special that may not be online.. some will took off other won�t be worth as you know.. overall we just need to keep on producing, improving our work and upload.. and other and other.. raising the bar

25% is a bit of a yawn,
especially for a new site (even if some of their other sites are big)
(and especially if they do the rip off the contributors on credits - this is an if as I dont know I'm not a member at any of their sites)

the point there seem to be the exclusivity which starts at 50%.. if there are buyers it does look good but still hard to change and drop all the other agencies they hold up you income but it does look a nice start..

TIP:If your thinking about uploading to Microstock sites for the first time..Join Istockphoto first and keep at it until your accepted.Build a portfolio there and if the sales come, you will need no reason to venture outside IMO

this is not tip no nothing, it just BAD but you may do that and non-exclusives will appreciate this for sure!

what is the point of just sticking with IS and then if things don�t go well go with all other?? thats just ridiculous.. you should go with all.. I don�t think you would "try" to make it on stock with 15% comission and low sales if your port don�t attract massive sales/buyers!