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« on: September 27, 2020, 06:24 »
First let's start by saying although im fairly OK with colour management workflow in still i am NOT in video so beginner advice level is needed for me.... Basically, im editing videos for stock in Premiere Pro and exporting. On my computer (VLC or windows viewer) the videos themselves play back exactly as wanted. Colour and saturation is as i want. Both prores and h.264 outputs. However, what im finding is when i upload to stock (SS/AS etc) the displayed thumbnails appear very washed out regarding saturation and contrast. When playing back on the sites embedded customer end they look the same - washed out. Im having issues separating if this is a colour management error on my *actual* videos or just an artefact of playback? Some system details:- - Windows 10 with Dell U2720Q monitor - Monitor is running in sRGB and is calibrated using Dispcal - Browser is Chrome (colour managed) and playback via VLC (also colour managed) - Export Prores and h.264 same issues from Premiere - Not trying HDR or anything. Simple rec709. - Reason for running my display in sRGB not the P3 version is because a lot of windows is not colour managed so looks odd in general use outside of managed apps. I've experimented with the Premiere colour management on/off option in the menus but cant decide which, if any, makes any difference. Im aware of the table on https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/premiere-pro/using/color-management.html showing what are and aren't issues with different displays. So basically, is there any reason why my videos all export to be more washed out and in Premiere, do i want colour management on or not? Also "If the destination for your video is an online video channel such as YouTube, Facebook, Vimeo, or played back on an sRGB display, you must not turn on Display Color Management. If the destination for your video is a broadcaster, you can turn on Display Color Management." is mentioned - for stock video im assuming most buyers would be using a non sRGB screen? Or shall i optimise for that?
577
« on: September 24, 2020, 06:00 »
This is a week not a month.....
And yes i do similar, i work (well when there was work...) solidly for 5 months with little or no time to upload then filter them in over the rest of the year so can get more than 500 sometimes. However its bursty so once ive done that i have weeks or more of little or no uploads etc.
So the limit if it existed would just mean it takes slightly longer to submit my media than otherwise but not a major problem.
i'd still say nobody has 500 images a week, every week of sufficient quality (unless you're a factory in which case they're exempt this anyway). For most circumstances it just encourages spamming/similar and other things.
578
« on: September 23, 2020, 15:12 »
I did just get a $100 video sale on SS on a video thats been there literally years, i'd forgotten existed and had never sold before.
Still does'nt make up for the large number of <$1 sales though.
579
« on: September 22, 2020, 15:06 »
Moderately related but I couldn't find any other thread that might have been on topic and I didn't want to start a new one for this one tid-bit.
From Kate:
The current limit to how much content you can submit is 100 videos and 500 images per 7 day period.
I guess that would reduce the number of new images and videos? Especially from people who work more, group accounts, or the image factories.
"We've found that submitting more content than this usually ends up working against you, as your content competes against itself at the top of the search results. " 
Im not overly sure i believe them. Generally out of all the uploads, regardless of quality, one or two will get traction, the rest wont. So its possible spamming images to the top of the search (for new/recent) is a useful tactic in that 1 or 2 will sell, then continue to do so whilst the others dont. That said, 500 is a ludicrous limit - nobody has anything like that many commercially viable images to upload every single week. AS works on keywords for the first 30 days then a lot more ranking so it maybe an idea with bit batches there to drip feed the same number in over several weeks to give each one more of a chance to live, find and take off.
580
« on: September 12, 2020, 06:29 »
Im seeing remarkably consistent image sale earnings at the end of the month since june. Similar to within 1-2 dollars in several hundred. Never saw anything as consistent as that previously.
It started a very consistent earnings (not numbers) decrease then stabilised at almost the same every month since June.
10+ years submitting and not come across monthly figures as suspiciously consistent.
581
« on: September 05, 2020, 13:28 »
Ps. Why is it always those from India who sell stolen images? And most of the time I deal with People from India trough SS support. Also most of them seem to be ok with SS change when I check the forums. Or am I just imagining things?
If you look on the SS facebook groups its full of people from there asking "why is my account suspended" or "how do i edit this picture i found elsewhere and upload". I think a lot of it is total unawareness of what copyright and the rules are. Some dont think theres anything wrong using someone elses image because its "on the internet". Although i admit, some is malicious.
582
« on: August 18, 2020, 16:26 »
The fact is that if most people had disabled their ports on June 15 things would have turned out very differently. Their library would have shrunk tremendously. Buyers would have been completely frustrated. Investors would have been asking what the heck happened. They would have had a massive loss of sales and would not have met or exceeded profit expectations. SSTK would have dropped instead of rising. They would have been forced to roll back the royalty cuts, and everyone might very well have regained their temporary loss when buyers either came back or switched to other sites for the assets they needed.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest any of that is true. None. Its not happened with IS or any other agency who did similar. SS arent stupid and know this. There are plenty of uploaders, plenty of new recruits. Most uploaders arent on this group or aware of any "boycott" - its a tiny self-selecting sample. Lots of them probably dont even realise theres a paycut judging by FB group and their forum posts from confused individuals. SS planned this, modelled for things like this and ultimately calculated its going to win short term and bigger long term. What SS did is nothing new. The boycott threats are nothing new. Its all happened before and the outcomes are known.
583
« on: August 18, 2020, 16:23 »
So its better to get much less over a period of years than to sacrifice two weeks of royalties once? If you disabled your port for the second half of June, at worst youd lose 4% of your Shutterstock income for 2020 (actually less, since you made higher royalties the first half of the year and June is usually a slow month). Instead most people stayed and are reporting 30-50% royalty decreases, which will only get worse in January.
Instead of losing two weeks pay, youre losing 13 weeks pay if you had a 50% royalty decrease for the second half of 2020. And in 2021 it will be much worse, because the vast majority of people wont get back to their old royalty rate, which is still 50% lower than it used to be, for months, if ever.
It doesnt work like that. For some people once june hit, suddenly, their June dayjob income became 0. Nothing. Zilch. Suddenly SS became their only source of income. So the choice of getting a few hundred or more dollars a month where you can actually pay the rent, electricity and food vs guaranteed 0 where you can do none of that isnt a hard choice - you'll take some income and survival over zero income. We're not talking of income averaged annually here, its real world income for this particular month. There's also the fact that SS had planned all this and there is no way in hell they'll go back on it regardless of people disabling profiles. There are always uploaders, always new recruits and the bigger, important studios they'd have done private deals with anyway. All planned, wargamed and accepted before they introduced it.
584
« on: August 18, 2020, 11:56 »
If you and everyone else had disabled your ports on 6/15, how different things would be today.
Because in June when a large number of people suddenly had no day job and no income at all they couldnt afford (nor would it be sensible) to deliberately stop the few hundred/thousand dollars they'd get from SS just to make a point... You need money to pay rent and buy food, not likes. SS timing for them was either very lucky or very deliberate and i cant decide which.
585
« on: August 16, 2020, 17:15 »
Just worth noting that an AI isnt guaranteed to give the same output every time its run.
It learns and adapts to inputs meaning you'd expect output to change the more its run. Also a lot use stochastic techniques which introduce a bit of deliberate randomness.
Not saying its the case here but the "if its AI you'd get consistency" argument isnt true.
586
« on: August 16, 2020, 06:30 »
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com <--- their trustpilot is going from strength to strength. Should pass 1000 reviews this week. Who in their right mind would (i) spend a fortune each month on a package or (ii) buy shares with a reputation from both buyers and contributors as equally dismal as they have?
587
« on: August 05, 2020, 12:51 »
This amused me. Not all reviews are unfair.
In other news, a "contributor" who literally doesnt understand composition. (or it seems anything else).
It does show how low the bar is now for contributing though.
588
« on: August 03, 2020, 15:38 »
Thanks for that, looks like it is worth me adding them regardless then.
589
« on: August 02, 2020, 17:53 »
Quick query, im submitting using Deep Meta so obviously have the keywords/disambiguation stage.
A lot of things in my keywords that are relevant (name of place, name of animal and so on) don't ever seem to exist on their list of terms for disambiguation. Do i add these anyway (they appear in red on the left then) or isn't it worth it? Are ONLY disambiguated terms searched and indexed or can people search on things that arent in the IS dictionary ? Ive found conflicting information online as to yes/no for this.
590
« on: July 31, 2020, 17:17 »
you seem to define AI only if it passes the turing test
Sadly i know quite a few *people* that wouldn't pass the Turing test...
591
« on: July 31, 2020, 16:22 »
I would suspect AI initially screens the photos and sends a recommendation to reviewers to inspect. Then the outsourced call centre style reviewers are supposed to sanity check it and decide on yes/no but most just accept the AI recommendations without bothering to check the image.
That or a certain percentage goes to human, a percentage stays as AI only.
Its certainly a total lottery since 202 began, perfectly possible to get 100 out of 100 images or clips with 5 different cameras an 10 different environments all rejected at once, usually for one reason and every single one gets accepted when resubmitted 20 seconds later etc. The review process does no quality control at all.
592
« on: July 31, 2020, 04:26 »
593
« on: July 25, 2020, 11:45 »
Remember this is a company that doesnt even fix major customer facing faults or legal complaints on weekends at all. They seem to only work office hours, monday to friday regardless of what's broken or on fire.
So if this is a bug, dont expect it fixed until after 9am Monday new york time at the earliest.
The more cynical side of me thinks this suits them - nobody moderates on weekends so they cant delete and remove negative comments so it benefits them to have no weekend posting.
594
« on: July 25, 2020, 07:33 »
what is the video API bug?
A long standing bug in the streaming video options that allows someone to obtain (and download) the full size video for offline use. There are other bugs as well. SS is aware and has been aware for well over a year.
595
« on: July 24, 2020, 11:12 »
I can still see it via the link ( https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/forum/19-contributor-experience/ ) and im logged out (because im banned). The fact the forum is indexed by google maybe upsetting them as its indexing and caching all the negative comments. Maybe someone has decided they need to hide this to try to protect an image to customers.
597
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:21 »
Ive just had the lowest priced video sale Ive ever experienced on SS - $7.20. I know some people have had much lower returns than that for clips but for me, this is something new. Previously, my lowest was $10 for a clip.
Despite not getting any ultra low video sales yet, I'll probably still disable my photo and video ports when I hit my next payout. I know it will only be a matter of time before I receive crumbs for my clips.
Ive had 11 x 0.43c video "sales" this month. RPD for video this month has gone from $18 or so to $4. Volume is the sale but each sale is now pennys.
598
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:20 »
I think that SS does notify you if you're banned because they also give you a re-instatement date. I looked at my forum profile and no bans or warnings on that. So.....maybe they just suspended the forums. Must have been painful to them having gotten all adverse comments removed from FB and other social media only to discover that they were hosting their own adverse comments site. 
Not always they dont. I got banned a few hours after the pay cut announcements for posting a PM from a moderator telling me to stop asking questions and being negative about it. I got no notification email or forum - just "banned" when i go to the forum. And no expiry date. I know a few others banned in a similar way as well. (I was expecting to get banned, just clarifying you dont always receive any notification, warning or confirmation).
599
« on: July 14, 2020, 05:23 »
Id put this down more to incompetence than anything deliberately to be honest. They have a long history of things breaking and them messing up fixes, sometimes for extended periods of time. For a company who's entire existence relies on their web interface and IP they have some of the worst IT security and dev i've seen in a large company. Also, no matter what breaks it seems nobody ever works weekends to fix it.
600
« on: July 09, 2020, 15:22 »
Wonder if the search ranking line means that now once deactivated, images lose all ranking points and start from 0 again on re-enabling...
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