I was increasing slowly until two months ago.. last month went down a little and maybe this one will be too but overall despite the cut I am happy there

I am quite "excited" once it will be my first payment from this "party" stuff, hope more than regular

guys you are all trying very hard.. isolations and people I have around 100% approved, now leave my port ok?

I'm keeping pretty much everything at the base 10% rate until I get a few sales.

not a zazzle fan but 10% is just insane.. IS pays 15%

Although Shutterstock has the lowest download average, it has the highest volume for me.  And the majority of my photograph downloads (as opposed to video downloads) are 33 cents.  (I wish it were the 55 cents that Lightscribe indicated.)  Nevertheless, even though Dreamstime is at the top of the list of average commission per photo, I see daily sales at Shutterstock, but I'm lucky if I get a sale per week at Dreamstime.  The bottom line is that I make more money by far on Shutterstock because of volume.  The exception, of course, is Alamy.  I've had one sale at Alamy, for which I received a commission of $40.  It would take 121 sales at 33 cents each on Shutterstock to do that.  But I can count on regular activity at Shutterstock.

I sell videos on IS, but I'm not uploading any new material there.  I haven't been accepted as an IS photographer, and still haven't decided if I want to pursue it or not.  I hate their keywording system.

DUDE that�s way OT

Quote from: sjlocke on June 09, 2011, 03:35

The problem is, most realize, or think, that such an alliance really would have no "power".  It isn't like a union where stopping work for a few days accomplishes something.  The stuff is still there to sell.

I agree but there might be some positive things we could do to promote sites that pay a fair commission and have good prices for buyers.  I know that might not interest istock exclusives.

yes that might be the solution.. on top agencies which aren�t fair? IS, Fotolia? Dreamstime maybe not because of their levels system (but I do have tons of subs..)

top contributors are the most important guys in this industry.. if they don�t do anything there is no need of "us" to do or it will only help their income..

Fotolia wasn�t as greedy as IS.. at least from emerald and up royalties weren�t cut.. how many are there?

Fotolia went from 30% to 20% in two years, can�t wait for 2012

you are going a little OT eheh

so do you believe if the top 25 stop uploading they would increase our royalties? do you really think IS need more pictures? I don�t believe an agency need more pictures but they keep on approving and we keep on doing them, some pretty like they are already online, some quite different but overall I don�t believe it is changing the "collection" that agencies have already, it is actually just taking money from other contributors and perhaps we are collecting a little more entering slowwwwwly their "pictures".. stock is a weird business that seems that will need be "full", it is like a woman that is never satisfied but in the end keep on screwing us

^^^But you can get 50% with Dreamstime and Veer is stuck on 35% with relatively low sales.  I don't mind 35% quite so much if they sell like the top 4 sites but unfortunately they don't and it's making me wonder if they are worth the effort.

true.. I remembered them because yesterday had a 3.5$ and a 5.25$.. I have kept the uploading there and will continue.. overall must be around 400$ but like 200$ from dash for cash.. they have just a little sales but better than canstock, bigstock and a lot of other too

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 08, 2011, 21:28

Veer with 35%

I would consider nothing below 50% as fair.

I have placed it only because the bottom one on the list is DT with 30%.. actually 25% on level 0

Now, whether we speculate or not or do our own statistics or not, we all end up uploading our stuff to as many agencies as possible to squeeze out the most money we can get, don't we?

it will only go up and up.. I don�t think exclusives will be exclusives forever..

Panthermedia is not better than Crestock or YayMicro and could not even be mentioned in the same category as Bigstock (not to mention the "other" middle tier agencies). As a matter of fact I suspect that their sales are bumped up by false entries to get them into the middle tier. I am by no means a big seller, in fact quite small, but are doing much better at all those mentioned sites, while having zero sales for the past 3 months with Panther.
Panther should be in its rightful position, below YayMicro. I have stopped uploading to them and yes, if you request removal of your images, they have a number of months (if I remember correctly, the contract states 3), before they will remove them.
Not worth the trouble, even for small fry like me......

everybody have a different experience... panthermedia are my 6th best agency after 123RF

yay I have like 5 sales for 2 years, crestock about 20.. panther more than 200 eur and yay and crestock less than 10

my analysis is that Shutterstock will be market leader in no more than 2 years.

they are already at least in my market