PNG sell well.

JPEG contain less data than PNG and PNG would be preferable to JPEG if only PNG weren't so heavy and the maximum you can upload to Adobe is 45MB.

I think if an agency that is selling AI images is seeing a sales boom, then agencies that are not selling AI content soon will be selling AI content.

and I can't help but hope you're right!

It seems that AI sales haven't overly hurt sales of non-AI images which is a nice thing!
That also implies a big win for Adobestock in additional revenue. I also wonder how
contributors (especially exclusive) at other agencies that don't allow AI uploads feel about it?

I have always thought that AI content cannot reduce the sales of real content,AI content is a separate thing that goes on its own,however,I remain convinced that it needs to be regulated in a better way.


I hope that SS also decides to accept AI content,but I doubt it,perhaps there could also be a reason related to how their sales system works,or they are simply no longer interested in continuing this business with contributors.

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 17, 2024, 11:51

@blvdone

I prefer not to say the precise number but more than 7000

I'm sure your strategy pays off in the short term,we need to see if it pays off in the long term.

for the moment we are still at the beginning,then we will have to see when the competition increases.

However,you may be right,maybe I waste too much time,but I like to put content on sale that I would buy myself.

I also tried a month as a pro plan with Midjourney,because given the speed with which many of you upload,I thought that the outputs of Midjourney were more correct but this is not the case,90% of the contents have generative errors,until now all AI image generators have errors,and many things to improve.

Honestly, there isn't much more to edit AI generated photos other than erasing brand logos in very rare occasions.  I don't waste time tweaking extra/missing fingers or disfigured faces.  Time is money.  I just try to maximize my output per hour/day.  And based on the number you gave me, my portfolio is making 2x more $$ per photo.  So, no offense, but I know what I'm doing and it's working.  If your photo isn't selling short term, why can you expect them to do well in long term?  It just doesn't make sense unless you are producing seasonal materials way in advance.

And you're right about generating AI images on Midjourney.  Many of the generated images aren't usable.  It takes time to generate images that you want.  You need to work on the prompts and hope AI will give you usable images without extra/missing fingers and limbs.  That's where my time is spent regarding AI image creation.

but absolutely,like I said maybe you're right and I'm wrong!

but you see,the point is that AI content that is not unique is easy to copy with a prompt,anyone can do it,but if instead you waste time and try to create something unique,adding or removing elements and improving the content,a that point is not easy to replicate,and takes time.

but maybe my approach is wrong and in the end you are right,for the moment you are certainly earning more than me so you are better off doing as you do.

I can't do it,I can't put content on sale with all these errors,yesterday for example I was working on an AI content and I said to myself,ok I can do this quickly,then instead 2 hours later I was still there working on the content,then when in the end I saw the result I was satisfied,and I'm sure if someone wants to try to copy it with just a prompt it's impossible.

but as I said,perhaps all this is of no use and perhaps you are right to do as you do,we'll see with time,in the meantime I will continue to work on AI content as I always do,I will try to speed up a bit if I can.

Everyone on Adobe has an upload limit (a limit on the numbers of items in review at any one time). Newcomers are limited to 50 and this increases as they get acceptances and downloads. The maximum I have heard of is 3000. Adobe does not disclose how the upload limit is calculated.

we were referring to a specific limit for AI content.
I knew about the limit of 50 for new ones but I didn't know there was a limit of up to 3000.

I have never reached any limit  at least not when it comes to uploads! 

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Quote from: blvdone on March 16, 2024, 08:13

1 good day and 4 slow days somehow kept me at good ranking this week.

My advice to newbies is to listen to people who are doing well and at least much better than you. 
Also look at contributors on Top Seller list and figure out why they are doing well.
https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/insights/best/contributors

Just copying their bestsellers may not bring you $$ because everybody may be doing the same and the market is saturated with similar images already.  It can be hit or miss and big disappointment in my own experience.  So, find your niche also and come up with your original idea.  Don't listen to those who never post their ranking here but keep talking crap here.  They may be doing only 1/10 as good as you are.  There's no point in taking any advice from them.

Wow very impressed. How many files you have?

About 2 million photos.
I produce about 1,000 AI photos everyday.
I automate the production with prompt producing AI.  So, I just upload and tag.  I sleep like 2hrs/day.

How many AI images can you send to Adobe per day for review?And what is your acceptance rate?

You know I was just kidding with those numbers, right?  I've already gave my port size number a few times on previous posts.

yes of course,that's why I asked!

Do you have an approval rate on reviewed content?mine is about 85%,of content accepted out of the total reviewed,but I dedicate time to every single piece of AI content.

ok when I have time I will try to read everything... I never have time for anything,I'm always making content,my girlfriend is pissed off like a beast!

I don't think there's a limit for upload.  I usually upload average of 50-200 AI images at a time per day when I upload.  I don't upload everyday.  Overall AI image approval rate for this year probably is 70% or so.  I only use photo editing software for AI images if I need to remove brand logo.  So, 99% of the time, I just upscale, convert to jpeg and upload.

in fact there is no limit,and this unfortunately slows down the review process a lot,as far as I know,it's not possible for reviewers to know who sent what,so it's not possible to quantify how much you're sending for reviewers.

so only upscale then convert to jpeg index and send?and don't you think that the content you send will be easily surpassed over time by content on which someone has spent more time?

in any case this is also a strategy,you go more on quantity for AI content,ok,I believe that it is not the best strategy over time,I believe that 100 contents in which you have lost at least a week are better than 1000 contents in a week.

if you want advice from someone who certainly knows less than you,because I'm sure you have more experience than me,I would advise you at this point to slow down,and focus more on quality,because you already have thousands of contents for sale,if you continue in the same way you just continue to do what you have already done!

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 13, 2024, 10:18

Quote from: sinandogan on March 13, 2024, 02:00

How many downloads and earnings do you generate per month on Shutter Stock?

January 2024 -> 174 download , 20,57 dollar
February 2024 -> 162 download , 23,90 dollar

Total number of photos: 27123
Total number of video: 212

What's the situation with you? If we regularly state our monthly earnings, we can be a reference to each other. I was earning $100 per month in the last 5-6 months of 2023, but these earnings dropped in the new year.

my God what a disaster!

Shutterstock is gone,someone who sells quite well,still sells,but is now an agency in decline,and then they don't want to accept AI content,another demonstration that they have no intention of continuing this business with contributors.

so, first all the AI rants about it killing sales on AS, now attacking SS because they DON't accept AI??

the fact that low prices are .10 is irrelevant when RPD is .6-.8 shows higher sales still occur. and for me SS is double AS most months

what AI rants killing sales on AS? certainly not from me!

there is nothing that can kill sales on AS because the sales system works in a certain way.

Maybe you're referring to the fact that I was talking about limits on AI uploads,that's another matter,I never said that AI kills sales on Adobe,you misunderstood.

I believe that a limit on AI uploads can somehow increase the quality of the contents uploaded to AS,because we know that if you upload 1000 AI contents or more per month they are full of errors,and it is better for other reasons too.

and I have always disagreed that SS doesn't accept AI,It's always been something I've written here in the past.

see? this shows that misunderstandings often arise on the forum because it is very easy not to interpret what is said correctly.

Anyway,I'll summarize what I think:

in my opinion 500 AI contents per month max per contributor would be better,for many reasons,but not because they kill the sales on AS, no one kills those!

and in my opinion all agencies should accept AI content,I have always thought this.

I'm happy about the fact that you still earn more on SS,I hope you make a lot of money!

in my opinion it is an agency in decline, but it's just my opinion, for me it doesn't work, my port is still active there but I haven't uploaded since September 2023,when they send a clear signal that they are still interested in having content from contributors,I will start uploading again.

a clear signal would be,for example, to start accepting AI content or a restoration of the old royalty structure,but this won't happen in my opinion,Shutterstock is no longer interested in contributors.

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Quote from: cobalt on February 27, 2024, 03:50

At the moment I keep bouncing between 3100 and 5200. 4000 files.

Hope to move further up again soon, this is frustrating. But for a port this size it is probably ok.

I hate to ask, because someone will think the rank numbers actually matter.

But, why do you hope to move further up? Rank means nothing, except for your own personal information, how you are doing, compared to others. If you are making money, and happy with what you do and earn, it doesn't matter what some irrelevant number says.

My rank goes up during the holiday season, down in January, back up in April. My earnings, as in money that goes into the bank, is all that counts.

Rank is apparently, number of downloads, not earnings.

yes rank is number of downloads,the most important thing,not earnings.

in my opinion the most important thing is the number of sales,earnings can go up or down,but the number of downloads cannot go down,that is the most important number,then comes the money.

by the way,my best rank ever is 3210.

Doesn't make any sense. If Adobe will lower the commissions you will get less earnings even if you have the same ranking. So earnings are the most important figure.

Adobe does not lower royalty rates,and even if it were,we know that we can make better and lower sales,but the number of sales is always more important,when there are many sales the money comes.

in any case,if Adobe also starts making sales of 10 or 20c I will abandon microstock.

Quote from: cobalt on February 27, 2024, 03:50

At the moment I keep bouncing between 3100 and 5200. 4000 files.

Hope to move further up again soon, this is frustrating. But for a port this size it is probably ok.

I hate to ask, because someone will think the rank numbers actually matter.

But, why do you hope to move further up? Rank means nothing, except for your own personal information, how you are doing, compared to others. If you are making money, and happy with what you do and earn, it doesn't matter what some irrelevant number says.

My rank goes up during the holiday season, down in January, back up in April. My earnings, as in money that goes into the bank, is all that counts.

Rank is apparently, number of downloads, not earnings.

yes rank is number of downloads,the most important thing,not earnings.

in my opinion the most important thing is the number of sales,earnings can go up or down,but the number of downloads cannot go down,that is the most important number,then comes the money.

by the way,my best rank ever is 3210.

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 13, 2024, 10:10

Shutterstock is sinking,Istock cannot be trusted,I know you are thinking of reactivating your port in Istock,but I warn you that you cannot trust Istock,they deleted 4000 of my contents in one click,years of work,nights without sleeping,and then suddenly from one day to another they sent me an email,in which they had already made their decision regarding an issue,which in reality did not exist,and they didn't even ask me if I had anything to say about it and I lost years of work,and a good part of my earnings from one day to another.

What was the issue that didn't really exist?

Mine wasn't quite as bad and I still have the account. You don't say if they closed your account or removed images?

My loss was 3,657 images that were Editorial when Getty took over and decided the iStock images were competition for the Getty photographers. So off with our heads.  Some of those images, still show on DM in my top 25 for income and it has been years now. Similar for audio, which I had a few that did some business, until Getty decided to end that and hire a private supplier.

I'll answer the OP question, even if that's a long gone issue and it seems reviews are much better now. TWO. 

Hi Pete,nice to meet you again here!

I'm sorry but I can't tell you,first of all for reasons of privacy because to tell you I have to go into detail about my contents,and then to keep copycats away.

what I can tell you is that they believed that I had infringed the copyright,but when I explained to them how I had created that content they replied to me completely different things from first email,in particular that I had stolen content from free sites,this time referring to other content.

so they completely changed everything they had written in the first email,because then they verified what I said,and saw that I was right,so since they had already done the damage,they started looking for other excuses to justify what they had done.

Pete,they made a mistake,they know it,I know it,unfortunately the damage was already done.

what they did wrong was not talking to me before making any decisions.

I'm sorry for the loss of your content,you see,even with you they cut thousands of contents,they completely bypassed you,and your rights and your time and work,only for their interests,this is why it is not a serious agency.

These are things you only understand when they happen to you.

but I tell you honestly that they did me a favor,I had read a blog some time before,in which an Italian creator made good money with Istock,but then tired of the 15% royalties,she did an experiment and eliminated Istock,and she saw a sudden very strong increase in earnings on Adobe.

the point is that there is always a downside,working with many agencies has its advantages,but working with only one agency brings numerous other advantages.

back on topic:

today 10 AI reviewed photos,9 accepted,2 Easter contents accepted!

yes, exactly,Adobe investigates and then reopens the accounts,unless something serious really happened.

Istock on the other hand completely destroys your years of work based on pure assumptions,I have been accused of stealing content from free sites by Istock,
maybe because someone actually stole content from me and then put it on free sites,I don't know,what I know is I am not capable of stealing even a piece of candy from a child!

actually no,in 1996 in Ibiza I stole a jar of mushrooms in oil from a supermarket together with 2 other friends of mine,the holiday was over and we only had money to go back to the airport,we were hungry and the only thing I managed to steal was a jar of mushrooms in oil!

so they destroyed 4 years and 6 months of work based on pure assumptions,without first asking me if I had anything to declare.

You only understand certain things if they happen to you,and you learn to trust only those who deserve it.

with Adobe this would never have happened,if they had any doubts in any way,they would have perhaps blocked my account,investigated and then restored my account.

I wish you the best from Istock and to make a lot of money,but in my opinion it is a declining agency like Shutterstock,and continuing to support those who pay you 15% is not a good idea in my opinion.

as you know,the minimum requirements for better percentage for exclusives also increase every year,and when you look at the sales in detail,you find a lot of 0.02 cents and really ridiculous sales.

they sell in quantity,that's why you can earn something,but that's why we're doing badly,because we ourselves ruin the microstock by giving our contents to these people who give us almost nothing in return.

I'm happy with Adobe,also because I've identified a nice niche for more than a year,and I'm working on it,and this niche represents my basic work on Adobe.

the future of microstock is with Adobe Stock,which unfortunately cannot increase prices to customers because there are still agencies like Istock,at least that's my opinion.

I don't agree with this sentence,in my opinion it's exactly the opposite:
"istock also takes a much bigger diversity of content,including real editorial photos and these sell quite reliably"

Adobe does not accept editorials in which recognizable people are present,and that's all,but it accepts a greater,better,variety of content and unlike Istock which if it only sees a shadow of a person the content does not pass commercially.

if the people in the editorial are not recognisable,they are accepted by Adobe,but not with Istock.

Thank you and I hope you make a lot of money with Istock!

back on topic:

5 AI photos reviewed today,4 accepted,one very nice and particular rejected,okay,patience,then I'll do it again!

no review yet for Easter content.

Quote from: Injustice for all on March 12, 2024, 18:36

2,but maybe 3 or 4 soon:
if you like to go skating on the thin ice don't be surprised when a crack in the ice appears under your feet,and you slip into it as you claw the thin ice.

Sure, but you get paid for being on that thin ice, no matter how small that amount may be... and the result of voluntarily giving up skating is exactly the same as falling through the ice. I.e. no more money.

I don't agree,I give up skating on thin ice,I need concrete things,but I understand your point of view,but I don't agree with it,a better microstock future starts with us,I no longer want to continue playing the hamster in the wheel,to get some seeds in exchange.

if we all support serious agencies,microstock would be a better place,continuing to give content to these agencies that clearly exploit us goes against our own interests in the long term.

But obviously this is a discussion that almost nobody is interested in,most people only think about taking everything they can wherever possible,I understand it,but I don't agree with it.

for the moment I left my port parked on SS because in some way perhaps I was hoping for a better change,a restoration of royalties,or that they would start accepting AI content,but now I have reached the point of phase 3 port disabling,and then after maybe phase 4 will follow some time,but in any case it is not necessary,I will leave my port disabled,you never know,miracles sometimes happen!