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Printed and framed!

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November royalties were payed.

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These are the joys of cheap subscriptions.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Photos.com Relaunched.
« on: January 13, 2011, 18:52 »
"Interesting investigation and the prices are all over the place. But people who sell the same images on micro and Alamy have long contended that there's nothing wrong with doing that?

Good point.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Interesting site about Getty
« on: December 29, 2010, 19:53 »
All thieves use to say "they are innocent", "they didn't know anything", "they thought that is vas legit", "they thought all what is in internet is free..." Why, if so innocent, they don't pay the demand and let it to go to trial?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Credit card fraud not something new to IS
« on: December 29, 2010, 06:16 »
Obviously, money will go back to the individuals whose Credit Card's data has been stolen and used. And, by the way, judging by the fact that any of these posters doesn't have the slightest idea of "what istock is" (so they never bought there)  it seems that there wasn't any breach of security at istock, probably CC data was obtained elsewhere.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 28, 2010, 16:05 »
I don't see where you're coming up with 'hacked in'.  Anyone can make an account.  How they fund that is where the fraudulent part comes in.

true they could use a fake/stolen CC or someone could have found a way to hack into the system and arbitrarily given themselves a bunch of credits or hacked the purchasing side and made "sales" go through that should not have.   so it could have been a funding fraud or a fraud on the part of a hack.  we don't have all the facts so can't really determine.

Te fact that IS first reaction was limit the credit packages available to 120 strongly suggests thats it is CC fraud, no hack,

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Fraud going down at IS
« on: December 28, 2010, 14:25 »
I do think IS site is hacked.
I don't think the hacker hacked a credit card account or some real money transaction thingy.
The hacker should have hacked into the system of IS, and increase his credits to perhaps a million, and quickly use those credits to download all the Vettas.

Like some other forumers said, with a collection of Vettas, he can easily print CDs with those and sell at China for $10 a piece.
Or maybe upload to Hotfile.

this makes the most sense to me.  I was thinking the same thing.. they just hacked in and gave themselves unlimited credits.

I don't thik is so big. I just had about 3% of my Vetta/Agency file dowloaded these days and after all that's less than my normal pattern, so maybe some sales are legit. Or maybe my files weren't good enough for these thieves...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Fraud going down at IS
« on: December 28, 2010, 14:18 »
Whenever there has been fraud or a return by the buyer IS has always deducted the royalty amount from the contributor. It happened to me a few years. It's common, though controversial, practice amoung most of the micro sites.

No they don't.  IS has always eaten the cost of credit card misuse, as opposed to other sites.

True. I have been for years at IS, with a great volume of sales, and never had a single deduction for any kind of fraud.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 24, 2010, 08:14 »
Another apparent fiasco:

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=284542


That, a fiasco? That's nice. It would be better to keep 40% for Vetta and Agency sales, true, but in just two days seems to have had a better effect on V and A sales that the sale at minus prices, and the stats "messing up" doesn't matter at all to me, after all I can see Vetta sales ordered by date. Well, nothing more, it's better being short and not wasting the time needed for those dedicated to the Fiasco Warching Mission.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 22, 2010, 20:30 »
[quote author=loop link=topic=11547.msg176497#msg176497 date=1293067778]
IS does seem to be able to sustain these blunders though. It is somewhat impressive in a sort of train wreck way.
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In the short term I totally agree they will muddle through like they always have.  But longer term, I'm not so sure that they can.  I think they are busy ripping apart their foundation both with customers and contributors.  Its kind of like that game where you have a stack of wooden bricks and you have to keep pulling them out one by one until the whole thing collapses.   :-\
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I don't know what do you mean with "the long term", but I had read comments like yours five and six years ago. By luck, I didn't listen. Now I'm earning at IS 15x what I was earning then. And that is not opinion nor prediction: it's a fact.
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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 22, 2010, 20:29 »
IS does seem to be able to sustain these blunders though. It is somewhat impressive in a sort of train wreck way.
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In the short term I totally agree they will muddle through like they always have.  But longer term, I'm not so sure that they can.  I think they are busy ripping apart their foundation both with customers and contributors.  Its kind of like that game where you have a stack of wooden bricks and you have to keep pulling them out one by one until the whole thing collapses.   :-\

I don't know what do you mean with "the long term", but I had read comments like yours five and six years ago. By luck, I didn't listen. Now I'm earning at IS 15x what I was earning then.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Huh? Can they do it like this?
« on: December 20, 2010, 19:41 »
Most agencies are reading here and the links to his portfolios are under his posts. He is not trying to be anonymous. If you are intelligent (and I don't know FD, but he is for sure) should you cry out on a forum to all other agencies where he has a portfolio too: "Look: SS and BS found out that I'm cheating..."?
Sounds not very logical. No one is going to undermine his own bussiness.
I am sure there must be a misunderstanding.
But let's stop this!
It seems to me that this discussion 'behind his back' is not fair to someone who write on this forum for years.
Like someone earlier wrote: Innocent until proven guilty.

I agree. FD is not new here, until nothing is proved he has my trust.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Huh? Can they do it like this?
« on: December 19, 2010, 15:51 »

Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

It seems you weren't able to see the question mark.

More likely he had difficulty parsing your fractured English.  I know I did.

A question mark is a question mark, here and in Sebastopol.

(And sorry if I speak a somewhat broken english... but I speak other five languages as well (being english my worst). So, let's go on with the discussion with the language of your election... I'm sure it won't be difficult to you.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Huh? Can they do it like this?
« on: December 19, 2010, 15:18 »

Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

It seems you weren't able to see the question mark.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Huh? Can they do it like this?
« on: December 19, 2010, 10:43 »
Just re-read what he has been accused of;

"We discovered serious copyright infringement issues within your portfolio of images on Shutterstock Images, LLC. Based upon our investigation, we have determined that you made a material misrepresentation to Shutterstock Images, LLC."


He's had at least two weeks (we don't actually know when this all started) to convince SS of his innocence without any apparent success so far despite assuring us that "I can easily prove the images are mine of course.".

Those are the only facts we know. Everything else is just speculation.

Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 16, 2010, 18:52 »


Quotes from two buyers in a row on IStock forum (posting here for SNP and loop)

Keep me out of your obsessions, please. Thanks.

 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 15, 2010, 18:03 »
So it looks like they've changed the DL numbers under my images. Anything with 100 to 499 DLs says >100. It doesn't change until you get to 500 DLs then it says >500. My image with 1300+ DLs now says >1000. Talk about rounding down...

If you open the file to view, you can see the number of downloads as they were showed until a few days ago, an so, have a better information about the popularity of this file.

Thanks, loop. I do understand that, but buyers can't see that number. I suppose in the grand scheme of all things hosed over there, this one is just minor. Someone made a good point about how people rush to copy you if they see an image that sells well. That is a good reason to get rid of the info, but from a buyer's perspective, I would think that number might factor in to the buying decision. If popularity isn't an issue for a project, no problem. If a buyer wants a fresh image that hasn't been seen everywhere, I would think the info would be relevant.

I really don't know the reason for this change... but the reason for te first change --if I remember well-- was the fact than posting the exact downloads allowed anyone with IT skills, competitor or not,  to monitor the daily total sales of istock. Just guessing, but maybe this new change intends to difficult eve more an approximate calculation.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 15, 2010, 15:48 »
So it looks like they've changed the DL numbers under my images. Anything with 100 to 499 DLs says >100. It doesn't change until you get to 500 DLs then it says >500. My image with 1300+ DLs now says >1000. Talk about rounding down...

If you open the file to view, you can see the number of downloads as they were showed until a few days ago, an so, have a better information about the popularity of this file.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockphoto to offer "Editorial Use" license
« on: December 13, 2010, 14:56 »
Thanks Sean and Sue, for answering my question about captions.  I skimmed the article, but must have skimmed over that part.

Releases for minors?  That leaves out quite a bit of travel and lifestyle editorial stuff.

I understand is for minors alone, not, for example, for minors in a crowd.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Vetta Sale at iStock
« on: December 11, 2010, 06:25 »
Yes, it is.
For 20,000 sales?   What is the average $ per sale for exclusives not at diamond?

Well, I was tinking about my sales.
And well, even with yours, you'll be able to go on getting income of your photos in years to come. Even if you don't add more.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Vetta Sale at iStock
« on: December 10, 2010, 20:17 »
Yes, it is.

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Some people are more interested in getting their work done fast and efficiently, than wasting time to save a few cents chasing around to cut rate distributors.

Keep in mind, most of the same people have the same images at all the same sites. so searching smaller sites for a bargain, is less productive. Minutes wasted searching are unproductive.

In most cases it is way beyond a "few cents" and yes, many of the same images are available at a fraction of the istock price at other large agencies. I have been lazy in the past because it was just too easy to convert my earnings at istock, but now I find it is just as easy to convert my earnings at Dreamstime and I'm saving a LOT of money. Of course I would never go from site to site trying to find the cheapest price, but if an image is not exclusive at istock, it's totally worth spending an extra 30 seconds to check that contributor's DT portfolio if it is going to save me 5 or 10 dollars.

Well, the istock photos that you could find at DT maybe be more expensive there, unless you use subscripcions. Independent work is the cheapest at istock, and the only content that can be found as well at other agencies. You can find the same Yuri's photo at 1 credit at IS and, at level 5, at 9 credits at DT, and it's just an example. Bargain hunting needs patientie, time and a calculator in hand.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Huh? Can they do it like this?
« on: December 08, 2010, 07:26 »
I certainly think it's harsh. at the same time, playing devil's advocate....an agency must protect its artists and its guarantees to customers....if it's a slap on the wrist, what's to deter contributors from copyright infringement? in publishing, plagiarism can result in fraud charges and potentially imprisonment. again, no insinuation about the case at hand....just saying, I don't think it's as easy as calling it unfair.

Maybe yes, but the least an agency could do with a long term contributor is contact him beforehand an explain him the situation, and listen to what he has to say (not just sending a generic e-mail that doesn't explain at all what has happened).

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Huh? Can they do it like this?
« on: December 04, 2010, 19:29 »
Using pirated software has nothing to do with image copyright.

Exactly. Should be obvious.

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