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Microstock News / Re: New Feature: Image Fight
« on: March 10, 2007, 04:21 »
Bateleur,

Is that a new problem?


I don't know how new it is. I was disambiguating some of my files last night (yeah ... I know ... I still have a massive backlog to do from when the introduced this marvellous new 'feature') and at the same time I tried to add some new keywords that came to mind.

Every time I entered a new set in the box at the top and clicked on 'Add' they vanished and I just got the word 'Undefined' in my keyword list with a little warning symbol beside it. I tried other images and the same thing happened.

I went to iStock's forum (I usually try to stay away from there because the sycophancy of the posters makes me want to throw up) and there's a whole thread on this problem. Apparently support have been told about it, but nothing has been done. Probably because they're too busy inventing new games. Yay! iStock, you are soooooo cooooooool   ;)

Anyway, that's how I found out that clearing the cache seems to solve the problem.

Ah well ... back to disambiguating. I just love it. So quick and easy to do ...


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Microstock News / Re: New Feature: Image Fight
« on: March 09, 2007, 17:25 »

Yeah, if only they solved the problem with IPTC data and let us copy disambiguations and categories from any previous submission, instead of creating games in the office...


iStock's very latest 'feature', I've just discovered, is an unusual one with the disambiguation.

While disambiguating, enter any new word(s) in the box at the top of the keyword list, click on 'Add' and, no matter what the word is (or words are), you get 'undefined' in your keywords and a little warning sign.

What fun!

Actually, there is a way around this. Clear your browser cache before disambiguating, and it should stop happening. Even more fun.

Thank you iStock ... you've always got something up your sleeve.

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Microstock News / Re: New Feature: Image Fight
« on: March 09, 2007, 02:04 »

We may have misunderstood the concept. The whole idea with istock is possibly to create a full time hobby for the contributors. The more hours invested, the better. More time consuming features are just added steps towards fulfillment of that task, and for the creation of the ever happy, happy istock family who contributes with ecstatic enthusiasm to fill the coffers of the mother of all stock: Getty Images


epixx ... you shock me ... shock me to the core. Do I detect a the faintest hint of cynicism here? How could you entertain even the teensiest-weensiest doubt about the wonderful things iStock are doing for us photographers?

I mean ... you only have to read their forums to realise how wickedly awesome they are.   ;D

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Questions about Uploading
« on: March 08, 2007, 10:24 »
Yeah ... if somebody finds a quicker method, please, please do tell. But I don't know of one.

The only trick I know of to make it a little quicker is to enter the keywords as IPTC data when you're processing the image - e.g. in Photoshop.

Other than that ... uploading to IS is a right royal pain in the butt. I think they do it deliberately.

And it kills me, every time I've uploaded there's this stupid image of a person holding some sort of radio aerial saying "I love uploading".

I HATE uploading to IS. If it wasn't one of my good earners I'd be out like a shot.

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Microstock News / Re: Toe tapping madness
« on: March 08, 2007, 01:41 »

... so we"re trying to be patient  It"s not our strong suit over here though so our toes are noisily tapping under our desks while we wait for your wicked awesomeness to hit the site.
      

Excuse me while I quietly creep away into a corner and vomit ...

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Microstock News / Re: France Bans Citizen Photo Journalists
« on: March 08, 2007, 01:32 »

I cant understand why they would do this.  Is it to protect the public or is it to try to cover up stuff?


I would hazard a guess (living just a few miles from the French border, and in a French-speaking country) that they are trying to stop 'happy slapping' ... the practice where some unbelievably sick  people physically attack complete strangers in the street, film the attack, and share it with their friends or post it on YouTube.

In fact it mentions that in the article.

There has been a growing number of 'happy slapping' incidents in this area, and people are seriously worried by it.

In a democracy your freedom to swing your arms about stops short of the next person's face.


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Dreamstime.com / Re: bleah
« on: March 08, 2007, 01:25 »

... Also I am kind of sick of their customer service in general ...


We are not the customers. We are the suppliers.

It may seem like a small point, but it does put things in a different perspective (and maybe help keep blood pressure down   :)  ).

If you think about it, it's 100% their prerogative to choose what they sell and what they don't sell, and we can't really argue against their choice.

If you bear that in mind, and just keep supplying, it makes does this business a bit easier to handle.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Should I bother?
« on: March 08, 2007, 00:53 »
A mere 25c per photo doesn't sound a lot, but if your images sell again and again it all mounts up.

Also, they do a $20 Extended Licence for images, which I get from time to time (got one yesterday  :) )


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Isolations at iStock
« on: March 01, 2007, 04:58 »

... but  um ...  I'm not that much of a cabbage head thanks.


Okay ... sorry ... just trying to be helpful.   :)

It's difficult to know how much people know on a forum like this. I guess you're probably a lot more expert than me.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Isolations at iStock
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:50 »

As I explained, the isolations were perfect at 0 tolerance before I compressed them, but when I reopened them and checked them at 100% the jaggies where there (only one or  two pixels at random around the object). No one as yet has been able to provide an explanation as to why that is happening, and i can still only assume it is the compression/decompression of certain colours.


Haven't you explained it yourself here? Compression could well be the problem. The compression formula looks for edges. It does this because large areas of the same colour (like the white background) can be saved with minimal bits - it only has to specify 'same' ... 'same' ... 'same' ... for pixel after pixel ... until it gets to an edge.

Are you working in JPEG and saving in JPEG?

What happens if you work in TIFF, which doesn't compress, and then only save as a JEPG as the very last step before submitting?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Isolations at iStock
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:02 »
the 1 px feather works for me too.

Funny thing is that a couple of my shots were refused as "poor isolation" when I was actually in a professional studio and didn't have to cut out anything! Hahaha! All my images had a perfect white BG. That was the funniest.  :)


I've had that, too. I did a series of shots of a guy making various hand signals. The BG was perfect white (blown out). They rejected about half of them for 'poor isolation' where I hadn't done any manual isolation at all. It would have been almost impossible, what with his hair and stuff.

I just took it on the chin   ;D  If they don't want 'em they don't want 'em.

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None for me, happily,   :)    and I sold 7 yesterday (28 Feb)

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Photo Critique / Re: What do you think?
« on: February 28, 2007, 00:47 »
No idea ... it seems perfectly well lit to me.

But then, as others have said, there are various other possibilities for a shot like this.

I think this just goes to show the rather arbitrary nature of the inspection process. It is, after all, highly subjective.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Somebody screwed up big time?
« on: February 28, 2007, 00:42 »
New 'feature'.

Yikes!   :o

I still haven't fully recovered from the last new 'feature' they sprang upon us.

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That's scary, Michael ... coming after you with the threat of lawyers. Pretty heavy-handed in fact. They could have e-mailed you first and politely asked you to 'cease and desist' (or whatever the term is).


They seem to be tramping down a bit on that recently - as you noticed when we were trying to post a link to this forum so people could discuss the software - they have blocked all such links to places that tell about other sites.


Hmmmm ... could a battle of the biggies be brewing?

Hope not. As an old African proverb says ... "When elephants fight the ants get trampled."

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Economics...
« on: February 26, 2007, 01:40 »

... so I would say that objects and buildings that don't date much will have a long shelf life ...




Agreed. It all depends what the photo is of.

I have 35mm film images of African wildlife that I took over 20 years ago. I'm scanning them, and they're selling. In fact some (like images of rhinos) seem to increase in value as the animal becomes rarer.

On a slightly less specialist note, this image was taken 38 years ago ...




... and now sells steadily (though not spectacularly).

On the other hand, a photo with a model in that I took a just a few years ago is a dead duck now because the clothes look so dated.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: No clear focal point
« on: February 25, 2007, 05:03 »
I've always taken it to mean, "We don't really want this picture, but we can't think of any other reason why we should reject it."

I've had it, on occasions, for items that I've isolated on white, that have been perfectly sharp, and it used to baffle me.

Now I don't take any notice. If they don't want something they don't want it ... full stop.

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Off Topic / Re: Flickr
« on: February 24, 2007, 09:04 »
Having found the place, I e-mailed the administration at Morguefile asking why they didn't request that the photographer is credited (if s/he wants to be) and I got the following reply ...

Well the concept of morguefile is that its a collection of images that you would use as reference and here its more specific to things you would do in retouching or game development. Its not the best / artistic photo of a strawberry / baseball / piece of rug. Its just so someone can use it and its a greater collection for everyone to contribute to (not necessarily photographers). We are looking for not good photos that you wouldn't care about being credited. You know- what does a crane look like or where can I get a swatch of red hair to fix a photo.

That being said I am developing a portfolio side to the site that is not free images and you will be able to put whatever restriction / license you like. It will be a few months so stay tuned.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Flickr Entering Stock Photography?
« on: February 23, 2007, 12:34 »
Interesting article. Thanks. But the author writes about flickr ...

Millions of photos. Some by professional, some by amateurish. Some terrible, some unforgettable. That description fits iStockPhoto ...

I disagree there. Strongly. Whatever you may think about IS, you've got to agree that the vast majority of their images are of a very high, professional standard.

Flickr, on the other hand, is stuffed to the gills with junk. There are good images there, but it's a tough job to find them.

So it won't just be a question of switching the whole collection to a stock agency. As the author recognises, they're going to have to create something separate, with inspectors and submissions procedures, etc., etc. and build up a workable collection of images. And IS ... and SS, and DT, and BS, et al ... have a major start on them there.

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Off Topic / Re: Flickr
« on: February 23, 2007, 12:20 »

... I donate images to morguefile.com ...


Hey! Never heard of that site before. Interesting. I've just checked it and I'm tempted to send some in rejects.

But what a pity that they don't require that the photographer is credited when images are used. It costs nothing and would be a little thank-you to the person who took, owns, and donated the image.

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...  I feel Raw is just a waste of time for $0.25 a download. ...

Is that all you get?

Then I guess you're only with Shutterstock, and it probably is a waste of your time.

I get anything from 25c to several hundred dollars for a stock image, depending on the agency I submit to. When photographing I never know what's going to go where so I work in RAW all the time.

And I'm mystified why you think RAW so much work. I mean ... that technique of yours for correcting WB seems horribly ad hoc (to put it politely). How do you know how far to move the cyan/magenta slider at first? A random amount? All the way?

I suppose you can take a guess at it, but to correct WB really accurately in JPEG, you don't do it that way. And the proper way is a heck of a fiddle.

Yeah. Not worth 25c.

But ... hang on  ... cyan/magenta slider? What program are you using???   :o

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Dreamstime.com / Re: DT Performance
« on: February 23, 2007, 03:20 »
I posted my first with them in October last year, now got 193 up and am $1 short of the hundred bucks.

Sold 3 yesterday and 29 so far this month.

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... I can fix it in seconds with color balance-Cyan/magenta slider one way-.yellow/blue slider opposite direction,same amount-dead simple, works every time! much faster than Raw processing, regards, Ken


Sounds like you're not familiar with RAW processing. In my workflow it's a whole load quicker and more accurate than that.

I select the correct WB I want from the list and "pow!"

Then, if I really want to fine tune by a few degrees, there's a colour temperature slider.

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Off Topic / Re: Flickr
« on: February 23, 2007, 01:34 »
Sounds like it's worth investigating ... but what's to stop people stealing your images? As far as I can see, none of them are watermarked.

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Off Topic / Re: Flickr
« on: February 23, 2007, 01:21 »

... the most lucrative was $1000 for a wedding, where I merely hand over the RAW images to the groom ...


So some guy, before his wedding, waded through all the dross on Flickr ('cos there's a lot of that, diluting the few good images), found your work, and contacted you out of the blue with the offer of $1000 just for pushing the button.

Wow!

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