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General Stock Discussion / Re: www.iFotolia.com
« on: January 09, 2008, 13:23 »
You don't stand a chance against my iDreamshutterfotovillage.com. I plan to take over 100% of the microstock market   :D

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SnapVillage.com / Re: opted out here too
« on: January 09, 2008, 13:15 »
Yuri Arcurs
Vphoto
helix7
moori
sharpshot
lumina
lathspell
brm1949
Freezingpictures
GeoPappas
rene
madelaide
Kiya
ason
epixx

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I just did some statistics for the first 8 days in January. Not much to base anything on, but:

SS: down 23% from 2007

All sites combined: up 99% from 2007

DT and IS are each almost as big as SS so far. If I didn't have the vectors at SS, I could as well have closed my account.

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Correct. There is no affiliation. I just think it's a fair deal ...
I believe you after looking at your previous posts. I'm just always suspicious of anonymous posters that promote a site heavily.

Nothing wrong in promoting the agency that gives the best deal to photographers. I do it myself, all the time, and my connection to them is nothing more than my portfolio. One sale at FP gives me 5-10 times as much as one sale at IS or SS. Reason enough for me.

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I opted out at StockXpert when they launched subscriptions. Minimum MP at SS is a good idea. DT is a headache though. They are selling well but don't have an opt out possibility for subs.

Yuri Arcurs
Freezingpictures
GeoPappas
Smithore
rene
sharpshot
ldambies
epixx

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Here are my weekly statistics for 2007. The text is small, but hopefully, you can read it.



The trends are very clear:

- The distance between SS and the best of the others is decreasing.

- Sales value has flattened out, in spite of the fact that my portfolio has increased in size by more than 50% through the year.

I had a rather brutal reminder of the difference between subscriptions and regular sales today. At Crestock, where my sales are almost only subs, I had three regular vector sales yesterday, generating $3.00 each. That's 12 times as much as subscription sales.

The value of the subscription sales may be decreasing, but the fact that it's an option for the customers at an increasing number of agencies, decrease the value of my photos. I'm tending towards dropping agencies that offer subscriptions unless they have an opt out option, like StockXpert and SV. I  will lose some profit short term, but long term, it's the only way to go, at least if I believe that my images have qualities that customers are willing to pay at least $5 for.

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Yuri,
I'm seeing the same thing as you are seeing, and with a completely different portfolio. One of the problems is subscriptions, and why more and more agencies are jumping on that bandwagon is beyond me. It's as if your local grocery store said: we know you have been buying food from us for umpteen years, but as from tomorrow, you can buy ten times as much food every day for the same price.

Obviously, after a couple of years, you would have gathered enough food to last a lifetime, and you would no longer need the grocery store.

And, as many have said already: designers don't really care if an image costs 1 or 10 dollars. The price is so low compared to the total project cost even when creating the tiniest little brochure or website, that the difference totally insignificant.

If microstock is going to survive as a profitable business model, it needs to look at itself in a long term economic perspective. Since "we" are an important part of "it", we have to do what is necessary from our side to contribute to our own future. For me, that equals opting out of subscriptions when possible and consider removing my portfolio where it's not possible and to support agencies that charge better prices and pay a higher percentage to the photographers.

We often talk about microstock and midstock. I think it's simpler than that. To survive, microstock needs to become midstock, and microstock, that's us.

There will obviously always be new agencies popping up with lower prices, but as we are now in a situation with 5-10 large, established companies that "rule" the market, a small, cheap one won't have much impact long term. Customers shop for quality and diversity most of the time. The can't afford wasting time looking for the lowest price if quality is to be found elsewhere.

Just my 2p (or was that 15p?)


Jorgen

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Featurepics.com / Re: Maybe it's worth the effort after all
« on: January 05, 2008, 22:35 »
Going for the lowest price is the most dangerous strategy in the world. Those who buy because you are cheap, will only do so until they find some place cheaper. Then they'll move on, and you have no customers.

There are many good reasons to buy from FP. A user-friendly web-site is one. The fact that they have photos that can't be found elsewhere is another. But most important of all: we have to ensure that they as well as we make a profit, so  that it's a viable, long-term alternative.

I link to my FP portfolio from any forum and any web-site that I can think of, including the signature of my e-mail. Even my mother has asked me now what that Featurpics thing at the bottom of my e-mail is. She won't buy any photos, but it does show that it works, doesn't it?

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Featurepics.com / Re: Maybe it's worth the effort after all
« on: January 05, 2008, 09:07 »
Get the prices up! The whole point with an agency like FP, is that we have the possibility to earn more. If we set the prices there at 1 or 2 dollars, we're just pushing the price barrier further down. No point in doing that. They are fully competitive at 5-10 dollars, and smaller sizes will sell for a lower price still.

635
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 31, 2007, 16:07 »
These cases (and others that appear regularly on their own forums) make me wonder if the microstock agencies are able to handle copyright issues in a proper way. It seems to me that competence as well as resources are lacking. What will happen if they get a major lawsuit against them?

636
SnapVillage.com / Re: Anybody home ?
« on: December 29, 2007, 22:29 »
For me, uploading seems to time out if I upload more than 7MB or thereabout in one batch. If I upload one or two images in each batch, it works fine. There are some routines at SV that work very badly. I'm surprised how slow they are to react.

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Featurepics.com / Re: Now Contributing
« on: December 28, 2007, 01:26 »
I have started uploading there as well.

I'm new to the setting your own price model ... Does anyone have any advice for these? The same photos are posted elsewhere, but I can see where it might be worth it to post to FP first and delay on the other on the chance that I get a sale there before they hit the other sites ...

Any advice regarding a pricing strategy when I'm currently active on around 6 sites or so ...

Mark

I have set my prices at 5, 7 and 10 dollars. No point in selling them cheaper, since individual downloads at other sites will usually amount to at least 5 dollars (full size) anyway. As a designer, I don't care if an image costs 2 or 3 or 5 dollars.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: 8 days without sales
« on: December 27, 2007, 23:22 »
Long term, I wouldn't worry about IS. They are up and down for me as well, but all in all, they sell well.

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Albumo.com / Re: I'm new to Albumo and I like what I see :)
« on: December 27, 2007, 23:20 »
What do you think?

Does Albumo have a chance of "taking off" ?

Mark

My honest opinion: No, I don't think so. I've had one sale in four months, and have stopped uploading.

640
General Stock Discussion / Re: Vector Software
« on: December 27, 2007, 20:01 »
If you are serious about doing vectors, it's difficult to avoid Illustrator. Trying out with a freeware program may work for you, but since Illustrator is so dominant, it's probably a good idea to start learning sooner rather than later. It's a good program, but there's a lot to learn.

641
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 27, 2007, 19:58 »
Crashoran: I received a mail from Seth today that they will look into your case again.

Jorgen

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Shutterstock.com / Re: why shutterstock?
« on: December 27, 2007, 19:54 »
It's difficult to make predictions, but the big times at Shutterstock may be coming towards an end. They used to represent 50-60% of my total earnings, but at the moment, both IS and DT is breathing down their neck. My December sales at SS this year are just 60% of those last year, although my portfolio has grown by almost 100%.

Why is this happening? One reason is probably that those who have been subscribers for a number of years have built large portfolios themselves. Another is that the competition has increased, and the other agencies who offer subscriptions, offer conventional sales as well.

It's difficult to say what subscription sales will do for the value of your photos, but I'm skeptical to the concept. If you have a unique photo (if there is such a thing anymore), why should customers be able to download it as a part of a dirt cheap subscription scheme, when they would happily pay 5, 10 or even 50 dollars for it anyway.

I'm still in, but if the sales continue to decline, I can't really see the point. At other agencies, I opt out of subscriptions when possible. A logical consequence would be to opt out of SS as well. We'll see...

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Featurepics.com / Re: Now Contributing
« on: December 27, 2007, 10:07 »
Happy to see that you're coming to FP. If we all work together, we can make that place rock!

644
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Considering Closing Account in 2008
« on: December 27, 2007, 04:30 »
One thing those of us who are designers can do, is quite obvious: buy from FP whenever possible. There's a lot to choose from, also photos that can't be found elsewhere, since they accept most of what many of us upload, and editorial photos as well.

645
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 27, 2007, 00:39 »
Wow... that was fast. Oh well, they are probably reading this thread anyway.

I'll leave it for now. Give some feedback when they have reached a conclusion. Could be interesting to hear what's behind all this.

646
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 27, 2007, 00:12 »
He didn't talk about his own portfolio, but the icons of sodafish. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I'll post a few questions at the SS forum, and see what kind of responses I get. Hope they don't ban me then   :D

647
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 26, 2007, 23:47 »
I haven't seen any of the icons in question. It was a claim by Helix7 in a post on 17 December after someone commented that your portfolio was empty.

If what you are saying in your latest post is true, SS is on thin ice here. Firstly, a photo with a copyrighted design should never have been approved by them in the first place, secondly, it's relatively easy to document if a photo has been taken by another person, particularly if the EXIF is intact. Do you still not know what photo they are talking about?

648
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 26, 2007, 23:33 »
I won't be the judge of anyone here, but this seems to be the story:

You have, with or without knowing it, copied or made identical icons to another user named sodafish. I haven't seen the icons, so I have no idea. The only way for you to clear up the mess, would be to contact admin at SS directly, preferably by phone, and very, very politely.

I've had a look at your portfolio at DT and IS, and if it's legit, you're work is excellent. Still, getting too inspired by others when it comes to vector graphics is not a good idea. I do vectors myself, and know that it's not always easy to see what's inspiration and what's copying.

You can be pretty sure that SS is one safe legal ground when it comes to money. They don't like to take chances (which they showed when they banned you). A piece of advice: go through your other portfolios, and be 100% sure that you have no conflicts coming up there as well.

Good luck.

649
Featurepics.com / Re: Anyone selling at Featurepics?
« on: December 26, 2007, 22:58 »
Joined but haven't begun uploading yet.  I'm looking to try to sell RM there.  For you RM sellers on FP, I am curious about one thing: when you make an RM sale, do they tell you who bought your picture and where it will be used (which magazine, website, etc)??

Good question. I'll ask at the forums at FP.

650
Shutterstock.com / Re: Beware of Shutterstock
« on: December 26, 2007, 22:56 »
Why don't you try the forum at SS? The admins do read the forums there.

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