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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can I sell photos of a dog event?
« on: February 19, 2012, 01:17 »
Don't forget to get a photo of the dog holding the release (after their pawprint of course)  ;)

Yeah right, and with additional parent pawprint if it's a puppy of course!   :D

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can I sell photos of a dog event?
« on: February 18, 2012, 16:55 »
If you have already been doing it and getting away with it, then don't worry about it!

No, sorry for the misunderstanding :  I have been selling pet photos without an MR since 2006, but with the permission of the owners (not in writing). 
I started this topic because the upcoming event is something different.  It's not in my studio, and it's with dogs of people I don't know.

As for your other post CClapper, you're right that people would not really like it if they found an ad with their dog in it without their permission - even if I don't need that permission according to Dan Heller.

I think I'll go with Lisa's advice and offer prints for their permission.  I'm not going to ask for MR's though, I would only do that if the dog were very rare, or a prize winning animal of a big show. 

Gostwyck, you're right, the event is on private property (a riding school), and indeed, it can make a difference if the owners have a copy of the photo to prove it's their dog - though they would not go to court, it's Belgium here  :)

Thanks for the link Lisa!  You have some great cute shots there!

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I know for the U.K. that all properties of the National Trust are forbidden stuff.  So I took all my images of Lacock Abbey (Harry Potter location) off all sites.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can I sell photos of a dog event?
« on: February 18, 2012, 15:54 »
A free print - not a bad idea. 
I don't intend to put lots of photos of that event on the micro sites.
I would just like to keep the option open that I could do that in case one or more images would really be great, not just nice portraits, but really funny.

Leaf, I can hardly ask MR's for all the dogs in return for free images, because if the photos turn out "just portraits", I would be obliged to send all owners free prints   :o
But if I do have one or more "funny dogs", then the chance is real that the owner(s) will order prints, and then I could offer free prints for an MR (but only to them, not to all dog owners).

Lisa, tell me more about the pet blessing day!   Are they really "blessed" ?   Who's doing the blessing?
How do you organize the prints afterwards? 

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can I sell photos of a dog event?
« on: February 18, 2012, 15:25 »
Good idea!  I was planning to hand out small cards with my website URL etc., so I can just add a notice on it that photos may be sold/licensed to other people beside the owner, unless they object to it.  I can also repeat that on my website page. 
Thanks!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can I sell photos of a dog event?
« on: February 18, 2012, 12:34 »
I don't think you can sell shots of a dog that belongs to someone without having a release from the owner.

Well, I've been doing that since 2006 ...  People bring puppies to my studio, receive free photos and dvd, and I sell them without a release on the stock sites.  These people always knew it was for stock, but I never asked to sign any release(s), as the stock agencies did not ask for releases either.  I have never had an MR request for a dog by an agency ever.
So from the agency's point of view, I don't need one.  But this event is different, as I don't know the owners, and they don't know I might sell the photos as stock.  And, as I said, I won't have the time to do any paperwork at the event.

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General Stock Discussion / Can I sell photos of a dog event?
« on: February 18, 2012, 12:16 »
This is not just a legal/copyright question, but also a more ethical one. 
I would like your opinion about this.

I am asked to be the dog photographer on a "Dog Adoption" event in April.  It's a whole day, and I am supposed to open a "mini studio" (kind of enclosed corner area in a big hall) where visitors with dogs can have photos taken (just the dog, or boss/dog).  After the event, I will put all images on a website page, to be ordered in several sizes, or downloaded for a fixed price.  The organizers of the event will not be paying me anything, so it's just for the photo sales.

I don't expect to earn much of this, but it will (I think) be fun, and after the event I will certainly be able to say that I know how to take dog pics!

Now here's the question :  suppose I take one or more really cute photos of beautiful or funny dogs, and I think these could be stock worthy.  Can I submit them to microstock agencies?

I'm not talking about photos with people on it, and not about "show dogs".  Just "posing dogs" of visitors to an event.
There won't be time to explain any details about stock photography to the owners, or ask any (written) permissions, because I think I'll only have 10 minutes per dog or so.

What do you think ?  Both legally, and "morally" ?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Good Basic posing from Peter Hurley
« on: February 18, 2012, 01:58 »
REALLY interesting, thanks!

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General Midstock / Re: Photographer's Sales Report
« on: February 16, 2012, 07:06 »
Hello guys,
I used to received the Photographer's Sales Report from Rodeo every week, but in January  I got only once at the end of the month...It's the same for you too?

Yes, it's the same for all of us.  I sent them an e-mail about it two weeks ago, and this was their answer :

Hi Anyka!
sorry for the delays, we have had several repetative problems after changing the server location and have used all times to check, test, check and re-test the system. At the moment we cant (again) upload the photos to Rodeo due to new version of the uploader software which doesnt work. We are still waiting for our developer team to fix the issues.
Those monthly/weekly sales reports are also again in the fix list (that was fixed earlier and now its again broken!!!).
Im really sorry for the inconvinience!
Cheers,
Juha


The photo upload he refers to is my dvd with 500 images, sent around 1st December.  I don't think my spring images will sell very well after Easter  :'(

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Our Hugo Maes Featured!
« on: February 12, 2012, 01:22 »
Gefeliciteerd!  Eindelijk weer eens Vlaams bloed op de voorpagina!

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Super! thanks!   I not only enjoy reading the results, I also like participating in it.

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Thanks David.  In fact it should also be Istockphoto who needs to be thanking you, as I would not be uploading anything to Istock if LightBurner did not exist.  Doing it manually is just too much work.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New Shutterstock TOS update
« on: February 10, 2012, 01:49 »
I'm opting out. Even if other agencies do not give us the chance to opt out, at least I can show my models/family/friends that I DID opt out where ever possible.

664
Is it possible for your to add wedding-videos, or are you already doing that?

665
OK, I'm back again with more news :   
Worked perfectly :   Fotolia (custom), Istockphoto, Shutterstock, Dreamstime and Canstockphoto.
I did not try 123rf.

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More good news!  I spoke too soon :  Istock just received all my uploads, so may-be the others will follow.
That 'll teach me to be impatient.

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Sorry I have to joint the Bad News Club :  just noticed that none of my channels is working right now.

The good news is :  we've got snow here in Belgium today, and I LOVE snow!

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Just for your information :
Work fine for me :  Shutterstock, Istockphoto and Dreamstime.
Do not work :
- Fotolia (custom)
- Canstock (worked until last week, don't understand why it doesn't work now)
- 123rf (I expected that, this won't work until they change their login system)
- Graphicleftovers :  temporarily no uploading this week, they're working on their backlog

Still, I'm happy as long as Istockphoto keeps on working!

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Yes, that sounds as if I only need 1 license. 
However, I will probably need only 1 background image per customer, so in this case I am fine.  I would download a series of fairy-tale backgrounds (even with a subscription) and choose a different background for each customer (which makes the work less boring for me too!).
It wouldn't make a very creative impression if I can only show a portfolio with 20 girl-portraits using 20 times the same background ...
Same thing for christmas cards :  I wouldn't make a very professional impression if all of my christmas family-portraits had the same illustration-border.

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OK, I tried again, using Sean's reasoning, and this time Fotolia sent me a positive answer :

If the images are only to be used once for each customer then you are absolutely right, the Standard Licence is sufficient. It means however that if you need the same image again for a different customer later on, you would need to purchase the image and licence again each time.

Thanks Sean!
Anyka

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You would not need an EL, as you are producing custom work for your clients.  Just like if a business needed a designed postcard that you then print out and charge them for.

You are not mass producing generic cards and selling to the public.

Thanks Sean, I think I'm going to knock on Fotolia's door again, using your term "custom work" - that might convince them.
I'm aiming at one particular portfolio of an illustrator who does fairytale background stuff - ideal for kids photos, and I haven't found him on other agencies, so keep your fingers crossed that Fotolia says "OK".

I wonder if I should open a separate buyer's account for situations like this.  Would that be wise or completely unneccessary?  It would certainly be easier to keep a clear overview on my sales figures ...

672
Yes, your project would require an EL.  The difference?  An agency is buying it for an on behalf of the client.  The client is the end user, whereas in your case, you will be reselling the stock material to the end user (your customer).  In other words, you're buying the stock material for resale, whereas the agency is not.  That's why it would require an EL.

Oh help, now I really feel stupid, cause I still don't get it.  You say both customers are end users, so aren't the ad agency and myself doing the same thing : buying an image to use it  in a lay-out for 1 particular customer/end user?

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Hi all,
I few days ago, I sent the following question to fotolia :
I am asking this question not as a contributor, but as a (potential) buyer of illustrations.
As from 2012, I will become a fulltime photographer, and I will expand my business with local portraiture and product photo shoots.
I was thinking of offering green screen shots, put against a romantic or fantasy background (in photoshop). However, I am not an illustrator, so I would buy vectors/illustrations (fantasy landscapes, borders) to put my subjects in. This means that I would sell my photos, enhanced with Fotolia borders/illustrations to families for use as Christmas cards, Wedding invitations or just for fun. The illustration would not be sold seperately of course. Does the standard license allow this? Buying an extended license for such a limited use would make the end-product much too expensive, so if the standard license does not allow this, I can only try and make my own borders and fantasy landscapes.


And this is Fotolia's answer :
I'm afraid once the file is used in as end product that is for resale, eg greeting card, calender etc, the Extended Licence is required.

Now I can hardly believe that all (advertising) agencies pay EL's for every image they buy on behalf of their customer.  And isn't this the same?  I buy an image, put the photo of their child in it, and sell my work, to be used by the parents only, for private use like their christmas card, invitations etc.  This is very limited use, much more limited than the flyers, brochures ... of clients of an advertising agency.  Fotolia uses the word "greeting cards", but there's a big difference between selling greeting cards in a supermarket, then supplying 50 cards to a family, with their baby on it.

Am I wrong, and do I really need an EL ?  That would make my product unsaleable (too expensive) for family use.  I could of course ask the family to buy the illustration, but that makes things a bit too complicated.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How was your 2011?
« on: January 02, 2012, 01:41 »
Not a bad year at all, considering I expected to hit the ceiling in 2011 :
8% growth overall (6% in euros), especially thanks to SS (22%up), 123rf (91%up!), DST (19%) and FT (11%) who covered the loss of sales at Istock (-33%) and Rodeo (-27%).
My port went up with 15%.  Alamy did not do well last year, until December, when I 33% of my year income Alamy, which resulted in 3% overall growth. 

Just finished leaf's survey.  I only suggested 1 extra survey question :  "What % appreciation do you have for Leaf doing surveys like this one?"  My answer would have been :   200%.  Thanks Leaf!

Happy New Year to all of you, and good luck for 2012!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Christmas Card from Shutterstock
« on: December 30, 2011, 08:33 »
Over 10K/yr for several years, and no card.  But I do live in Europe, and last week we had a strike of the post offices, so I expect lots of cards to arrive late.

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