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iStockPhoto.com / Re: D-Day (Deactivation Day) on Istock - Feb 2
« on: January 14, 2013, 13:44 »
I am not sure how Photo+ slots work if by deleting a huge portion of your portfolio you have more Photo+ images than your "allowance". I'm guessing that they don't automatically remove them, probably 'cause they haven't written the software to make that happen. If you are deactivating and plan to leave some images there, I'd suggest using up your remaining P+ slots to lock in any images you plan to keep on site prior to starting the deactivation. No sense in leaving any money on the table for any images you  leave on the site.

From E+ I know files stay in there. You just don't get new slots until you have made enough uploads again to fill the quota.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: D-Day (Deactivation Day) on Istock - Feb 2
« on: January 14, 2013, 12:05 »
Already deactivated 170 images this weekend. But I don't it's hard to find at least 300 more to deactivate. Someone else do the math please.  ::)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Image Deactivation Tally for iStockPhoto
« on: January 14, 2013, 06:13 »
170 this weekend. Not my bestsellers. Mostly new and better images that I put into E+ but would like to sell somewhere else soon.

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General - Top Sites / How quick from upload to going live?
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:57 »
Hey there

I only know iStock where it takes maybe a day or two for (exclusive) inspection and another day or two for images to actually show up in your portfolio. So the minimum is 2-3 days from upload to images being searchable.

Can you advise how much time this process takes at the other big three, SS, FT and DT?

Thanks,

Michael

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When they are available for free to general public, is absolutely another.
So I'd guess you'd agree with me that the MS deal isn't actually fundamentally different. And who knows how many other, similar deals have already been made?

1. When the MS deal was started, it was about "including images in the MS clipart gallery" which meant as part of the Office products. I wasn't aware there was a website that anyone can go to and download the images. I am not sure that this was there when the deal started.

2. The deal was promotional in that next to the image it says "iStock" with a link and - at the time back then - included a referral code and a link to the image on iStock. So in case someone wanted a larger version of the image, he could get it. And for anyone signing up at iStock from clicking on the link at one of my images I would make $10 for the referral. Nowadays it doesn't work anymore since most of the links are broken and the old referral program was discontinued anyways...

I don't say any of this would have provided more money to the contributor in general. But given the three images they have chosen from my portfolio, I would certainly agree today to a deal with those conditions.

With the Google deal there is no promotion, there is no linking back, there is no way to find the image if I want it larger. So there is not even an option that you can add some earnings in addition to the $12 you got now.

Also it only includes images that are available on Getty and this - by definition - means from the perspective of an iStock contributor we are talking about the "premium content", Vetta and Agency. So it's not just a random file that would go away for a dollar or five dollars if sold. When the MS deal was made, most downloads would only make 30 or 80 cents. Given the odds how many of my files got more than 20 downloads at that time, I would have thought a guaranteed $12 plus the option to make more would have been acceptable.

This time it's about files that make 15 or 30 dollars for each single download on iStock. In comparison $12 for unlimited redistribution appears quite few money.

I think that does make a difference in the deal.

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I have removed 100 of my image tonight (and will remove more) which I plan to upload to some mid stock agencies soon. I spent more time on that than pointing out what I considered a factually wrong statement.

Good for you for removing images.  I hope that turns out to be more effective than it was when others did it in the past.  I don't see that and getting media attention as mutually exclusive. 

It wasn't meant to be mutually exclusive, it was a response that people are taking more time to pick apart your planned statement - I did spend time to make a remark but I did spend more time on other stuff. ;-)

I have no hopes that this will be "more effective" with regards to iStock/Getty regretting their decisions. As I stated in a post above, I believe that more people will keep uploading at iStock than people removing stuff as there are still enough reasons to do so.

And even if all falls apart, Getty still has about 20 million images they can move to iStock to replace the missing content...

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ETA:  Nevermind.  I have removed the letter because apparently picking it apart is considered, by some, to be a better use of their time than actually doing something about this situation.

I have removed 100 of my image tonight (and will remove more) which I plan to upload to some mid stock agencies soon. I spent more time on that than pointing out what I considered a factually wrong statement.

I wasn't wasting my time picking your letter apart. I was just pointing out that something (actually there were others) in your letter were factually wrong. If that's okay for you for the sake of getting a point across, you can go ahead. But I'd think providing pure facts would sound bad enough, it doesn't need any effort or unfortunate wording to make it look worse.

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WITH NO COMPENSATION TO THE ARTISTS.

You might want to check your facts. $12 is no much but it's not nothing as well.

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Off Topic / Re: THANK YOU ALL!
« on: January 12, 2013, 14:35 »
Use your iStock acceptance to learn about their technical standards. It will teach you a lot about photography, post processing etc. that you can make good use of in a later stage of your photography career. ;-)

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The question we have to ask ourselves is... If a new site came on the scene, people were reporting great sales but the site only offered between 15-20% and negotiated deals where they gave our images away for free through Google and Microsoft as they pleased.. would you upload there?  I wouldn't.

Well, imagine an agency came along, would cut industry-standard royalties from 50 to 20%, gave away images with an umlimited (what they call "royalty free") license to use. Would you imagine people would upload there?

Apparently Getty has survived all of this with photographers still keen to upload - which I can totally understand in a way because not uploading to the Getty empire means denying they own half the world market. Not by growing the market but by buying the market share.

I'd think there is a shift in powers nowadays with contributors being able to talk to each other. Still I have doubts this will change things. I studied economics and this could be a case of what was taught to us as "prisoner's dilemma". You have to take a personal decision because you can't trust others to do what would be smartest for the whole group. And as an individual it's hard to say "no" to the biggest market place.

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