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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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« on: April 15, 2011, 19:14 »
I just don't understand why they can't eat a little crow and post that they should have had the update out, but they're sorry they're late. It wouldn't get anyone answers, but it would at least appear that they gave a flying eff about meeting their commitments. I don't know if they have a crappy work ethic, if they're horrendously incompetent, they truly consider contributors unimportant so that it isn't really a commitment if you tell a contributor you'll do something. If it were just this, it'd be one thing, but this has happened over and over on many issues over many weeks. This is on topic, although it won't sound like it at first. My husband has become enamored of the program Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. We were discussing the IS disaster-of-the-day over dinner a few days back and my husband asked my daughter "what does Gordon Ramsay say?". "Bleep" came the answer  Not sure if they air the swearing in the UK, but on BBC America it's bleeped out - that's how I can tell from the other side of the house if my husband is watching it - the steady stream of bleeps... At any rate, this show is where Ramsay goes in to straighten out failing restaurants and read the riot act to various non performing staff. My husband thinks we should send Ramsay to Calgary to sort out iStock  While I think the footage would be funny, I read an article a while back that said that the restaurants Ramsay "saves" typically end up going under anyway...
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« on: April 15, 2011, 18:58 »
Just checked my last two hundred uploads, dating back to January 27th. 21 sales, so around 10% of them have sold.
I know it's hard to make comparisons, but is that less than, about the same as or more than you would have expected? To me it sounds low, especially for an emerald with a proven track record. I looked at what you uploaded to IS and if I counted right, for the first page (sorted by age which goes back to Jan 28th) you had 93 sales.
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« on: April 15, 2011, 16:47 »
I've now seen more than I intended to about "The Wedding" - I've been trying to avoid it, Charlie Sheen and various time wasting distractions (not always successfully  Very funny and how nice to provide a bit of a boost for those who earn their living as lookalikes - they should cash in while they can.
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« on: April 15, 2011, 16:45 »
LLB (Lowly Level Bronze) Tom
I must guess that you're not actually an LLB (Batchelor of Laws) or you'd be threatening to sue us for defamation of character
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« on: April 15, 2011, 15:11 »
I know I remember rogermexico posting something about this in one of the (many) bug threads. I think he said they fixed it. But even using google search I can't find that thread.
I did see one silver exclusive who uploaded 330 (not the 430 that multimedia's charts said) between 2/28 and 3/30. I think silver's limit is 20 a week or so, so they're definitely over. I'll post something in the Help forum.
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« on: April 15, 2011, 14:38 »
If I do certain Google searches - for restaurants, locksmiths, etc. - I get a lot of local content. That's good - it knows my location (via GPS on my iPhone and because I've told it when I'm on my desktop computer). But Google is smart enough to know that if I start searching for things that don't really have any local component - "What's malted barley?" - it just drops all the sections for my area and gives me information. It may be that some bright spark decided that local information in search results is "the thing" without fully thinking through how designers do what they do. There's a comment in that article about the difficulties of "...trying to figure out the foibles of human behavior from a mass of digital bits..." When you consider the team size and level of expertise that the big dogs (Google and Microsoft) have working on this sort of search engine behavior, it does make me wonder why a small subsidiary of a stock photo company would take this on.
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« on: April 15, 2011, 12:44 »
In a word, no. Not through iStock anyway. Via the partner program you have access to Thinkstock and photos.com. I'm waiting for them to put vectors on clipart.com, a below-the-lowest-of-the-low clipart site, but for whatever reason they haven't done that yet. Exclusives have access to the iStockExclusive and iStockVector collections (old; pre-Vetta/Agency) and Vetta & Agency on Getty. Some have Getty contracts as well and submit via the Getty portal with content not available on iStock.
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« on: April 15, 2011, 09:53 »
It may not stay this way, but as this week has progressed, sales have been returning to the land of the living at IS (for me). Nothing really great (i.e. no big spike over prior good days) but massively better than the prior week (which was grim). Obviously I hope this means that their "tweaks" are moving in the right direction
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« on: April 14, 2011, 16:43 »
The "no celebrities" rule probably has more to do with avoiding treading on Getty's toes than anything else, and I believe they said that big political names fell into that category. As far as the caption rejections, it's hard to give you a suggestion without seeing the image, but you need more details about what's going on, exactly where (street; outside a certain building; something about who the crowd was or how big it was. There are tons of examples already on the site and you can ask in the editorial forum if you're unsure about what to include. One thing that has caused rejections for others is copying from Wikipedia for the caption description. Look at examples here here, and here for the type of caption you need to produce.
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« on: April 14, 2011, 15:30 »
If you go to a department store the fancy stuff is always in the window. I guess it's like that ?
Not sure that department store is a good analogy - isn't the average age of a department store customer over 65? I can't remember the last time I set foot in a department store except to walk through one if it was at a mall and that was the way from my car to wherever. But even when I did shop in them, they put eye-catching stuff in the window, and that could be seasonal merchandise, sale merchandise or something they hoped might get you to walk in the door instead of walking by. Department stores don't typically cover the ground from Neiman Marcus to Wal-Mart with Macy's in the middle, which is what IS is more like now, with Agency through the Dollar Bin. If you look at amazon.com (to cite but one example of this sort of search interface in an online store), when you look at home theatre systems, there are search panels on the left that let you search by brand, by watts, by price (with a list of set ranges and then a from and to text entry field where you specify your price range), rating, etc.. I'm not sure why this successful business model for online shopping is one that Getty/iStock disdain. It seems to be working pretty well for amazon. This isn't the 1920s where we're trying to appeal to the carriage trade and keep out the riff raff. Have a premium collections landing page (in addition to photos, illos, video, etc.) so that the high end buyers can be directed to start there and never have to see those of us who don't play in that rarefied atmosphere; put a full range of on off switches (and let preferences be saved) so buyers can search as their needs dictate. I am truly convinced that they can still flog the high price stuff successfully even if they allow buyers to chose not to look at it. It seems like insanity not to let buyers choose and have them take their business elsewhere out of frustration.
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« on: April 14, 2011, 11:20 »
when you say "regular" that means non vetta and agency only or is it also non-exlusive plus?
regular = not (Vetta or Agency). So regular would include all independent, E+, exclusive.
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« on: April 14, 2011, 11:18 »
The seller was asked about expiration dates, which he said was 2 years from the transfer, but I'd have thought it was 2 years from the purchase date - the original purchase date. Given the seller has been offering these deals for months and one poster claimed he'd gone back for more credits, this can't have been one bulk purchase that was being sold off over time. If that were the case, there'd be less and less time remaining on these credits. If it isn't some scummy employee taking credits he payed nothing for, I can't see how you can sell for less than half price and make any money on the deal. I guess as FT has payments to contributors at a fixed rate, not at a percentage of whatever the buyer paid, this is a scam that doesn't directly hurt the people whose images were purchased unless FT voids all the sales. I don't remember seeing anything quite like this before in the various scams that have come up. I guess the criminal mind is ever inventive
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« on: April 14, 2011, 09:53 »
What's different today in number of regular images in the first page (200) of photos only (with thanks to a test version of one of Sean's greasemonkey scripts that means I don't have to count these  Search term Reg 4/12 Reg 4/14 fish* 9 11 senior couple 20 30 woman shopping 31 36 tropical beach 12 15 spa treatment 39 44 woman eating 21 31 woman laptop 30 41 man portrait 26 35 doctor 37 45 swimming pool 13 19 summer outdoors 29 35 child outdoors 36 43 sexy woman 9 12 * both food and animal meanings So there is a small difference, but if you aren't a flaming image, you're not on the first page of search results in the "regular" section
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« on: April 13, 2011, 20:20 »
Lisa - from my understanding, that's not how the regional results work. your comment makes a big ( and I believe incorrect) assumption about how the regional sort works. there was a thread in the iStock forum in which the way it will work was described in detail.
I don't recall that - only some vague examples about showing the right nationality if "flag" was used as a search term. Do you have a link to the details?
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« on: April 13, 2011, 17:23 »
It's a strain to find something positive about microstock, but about photography in general, I love it when I can go back to a time, place and feeling by looking at a picture I've taken - sort of a poor man's space time machine. As it's cold and wet and thoroughly icky in Western Washington at the moment, my recent images from the Turks & Caicos are a lovely place to which to be transported
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« on: April 13, 2011, 15:19 »
... First thing copy and paste the full header of the email you received into this web site to find out where the person is located that you sent you the email:
http://www.iptrackeronline.com/header.php
Thanks for posting that link - that's very helpful.
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« on: April 12, 2011, 23:58 »
Some really stunning work there!
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« on: April 12, 2011, 19:30 »
have any of you actually performed test searches? it doesn't sound like it. I've searched on all my test search terms. each search has returned a solid MIX of files.
Yes, I have searched. Many of the terms have a huge disparity in the first one or two pages - masses of Vetta Agency, lots of it with few or zero sales. Examples: 20 regular files in the first 400 for fish; 20 regular files out of 200 for senior couple; 31 regular of 200 for woman shopping; 12 of 200 for tropical beach; spa treatment 39 of 200; woman eating 21 of 200; woman laptop 30 of 200; man portrait 26 of 200; doctor 37 of 200; swimming pool 13 of 200; summer outdoors 29 of 200; child outdoors 36 of 200; sexy woman 9 of 200. These aren't a mix, certainly not a solid one. When you consider the small proportion of the 8 million images that are Vetta/Agency, the disproportionate weight becomes overwhelming
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« on: April 12, 2011, 09:45 »
Someone posted in the IS Help forum in the bug thread.
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« on: April 12, 2011, 09:36 »
if you perform a best match search on any major keyword like 'business', 'family', 'Christmas', 'summer' etc., the best match returns are a mix of images with the first images predominantly from diamonds. also on the first page, early on in the results are plenty of images from black diamonds. so far I have not performed any search that corroborates a theory in which lower canisters seem to be favoured in best match to increase profits.
I haven't done a ton of searches, but I didn't see anything radically upended in the best match results on the few I did, so I'll grant you it weakens any argument that they're trying to push bronze/silver with Vetta/Agency. Another possible explanation is that buyers have taken to heart the suggestion (that I've seen over and over again in the forums from kelvinjay and pink_cotton_candy) to set your results to 200 per page and skip over the first page or two to get past Vetta and Agency. That would also skip over a lot of good sellers that do get mixed in with the premium collections. When you look at the number of high performers who are seeing really large drops it's hard to see this as ebb and flow. Perhaps tomorrow we'll all get e-mail saying that they were unfortunately not reporting sales correctly and we've all actually had successive best weeks ever
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« on: April 12, 2011, 00:43 »
If they're trying to boost profits, it would make sense to demote the files of exclusive diamonds. The top couple of hundred contributors probably account for more than 50% of sales and most likely get 40% commission. If they can divert half those sales to people on 30% commission it would boost iStock's overall cash share by about 4%.
If 40% of the money they take gets spent keeping things running, a 4% increase in income would become a 10% increase in actual profits. That's an awful lot of extra cash to make for a tiny little search engine tweak. It's also something that can be done to keep profits on track (and guarantee management bonuses) if buyers are drifting away.
I've certainly given consideration to the idea that they're deliberately trying to favor select groups of content - Vetta/Agency because the price is high and the royalty lower and lower-royalty bearing exclusive content. Some of the Vetta contributors have been seeing huge drops in sales (although I did note one admin who has a lot of Vetta was happy about March being a BME) so I don't know if that fits that pattern. I was wondering if that would mean a boost for independents, but although royalty rates are lower, so are prices, which means IS might still favor bronze exclusives to make the most. Take an XS file (1 credit independent, 2 exclusive). Assume a $1 credit price. For a 40% exclusive, IS makes $1.20, for a 25% exclusive $1.50 and an independent, 80 cents. If I weren't worried about driving away buyers and bigger contributors, I might make the search engine favor the 25% (bronze) exclusive content.
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« on: April 11, 2011, 22:05 »
...it REALLY bothers me to see how they are populating the front page lightboxes.... if contributor confidence and community spirit is still of concern around iStock, one action that would help restore my confidence would be to see an even distribution of contributors represented in these showcase lightboxes.
There's evidence in many places of rampant favoritism - a small group favoring one another and claiming that it's image superiority that justifies the special treatment. Those who can self inspect even if the rest of exclusives are waiting 10 days; huge Vetta presence when some of the largest are those supposedly impartial "judges". The lightboxes could really be something fun and designer centered, but that's not what's happening. There's no transparency in the process anywhere - not in our sales data, the criteria for all the special perks (Vetta, Agency, front page lightboxes). There's no appeals process for anything except for Scout - if you don't like it you can leave. It's Vetta because we say it is and we won't discuss it. In light of all these things, I'm not sure what you could expect from complaining. The last time Lobo berated a group of us for complaining in the Help forum about a problem when we hadn't opened support tickets, I went and opened a bunch of support tickets, one for each problem. They all got closed with a note from customer service that I should use the forums like I'd been told and not open support tickets. Someone wittier than me said that they could tell everyone to eff off and still be doing a better customer service job than IS. That about sums it up for me. They're taking from 60% to 85% of the gross and throwing themselves a party in London while the site limps along with thumbnails in the wrong color space, no e-mails for CR tickets or acceptances, a pile of search and site functionality bugs, a my_uploads page that would be unusable were it not for Sean's greasemonkey script...etc. Back on topic, I thought that we might by now have seen the promised guidance on what to shoot (like the Getty Creative Research newsletters) - was that before Christmas that they promised that? I think it's a nice idea to tell us what sort of editorial they see as most needed, but there wasn't a lot of detail and the lightbox didn't seem to reflect the topics that were in demand (i.e. was more about spotlighting things they thought were cool than focusing on the areas they were telling us we would do well to focus on in our editorial submissions).
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« on: April 11, 2011, 12:12 »
See the info on Adobe's site here. It's an intriguing thought that someone who had intermittent needs for Photoshop (or for the latest version if they didn't have it) might be able to get it for $49 a month every now and then. What I don't get is why you'd pay $420 a year for a Photoshop subscription versus buying it. Perhaps the notion is that with the upgrade price every 18 months or so it isn't such a bad deal? I'm sure most folks here already own Photoshop, but I wonder who they're expecting will sign up for this? And does this mean that they're having a hard time flogging their overpriced upgrades?
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« on: April 11, 2011, 11:36 »
did anyone report this to any of the stock sites? I'm thinking of sending it in to compliance enforcement at istock. I know that they work on squashing this sort of thing - it takes them awhile but they have followed through on issues I had when I found my images used illegally. i would bet that if the Vetta and Agency files were being stolen they would jump on it pretty quick.
I thought about it, but it didn't mention specific images - I'm not sure that discussing how to commit this theft is something IS can go after. Now if these geniuses would care to post the images they swiped...
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« on: April 11, 2011, 10:28 »
looks to me like tineye is designed to steal images ...sort order - biggest size... 1700 pixels on the long side, linkdirect to the image so you dont even have to open the webpage.
I'm not sure how each agency's agreement reads, but I believe IS updated theirs a while ago to permit up to 1024 pixels on the longest side on a web page, so images that large would be violating IS's agreement anyway. Not saying the theft issue goes away, but the smaller the image, the lower the value the thieves are able to snap up. What I find pretty ballsy is that they feel quite comfortable discussing theft openly - as if they were discussing where to get coupons or the best deal on a car.
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