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Messages - Jo Ann Snover

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I'd be happy to participate in a conference call - no NDA - to discuss major contributor problems. Discuss is an operative word - i.e. not just listen. Problems plural is key as well - the clawback of funds and loss of control of our images is very important, but is only one of the major failings on the site at the moment. If they dont' fix search soon, the future doesn't look bright at all.

I think iStock is trying to deflect trouble rather than solve problems. I think they want to try and ratchet down the contributor discontent and aren't thinking about solving the problems as the way to do that.

I hope they're willing to revisit the sort of conference call they're willing to have. Going from "trust us" to "trust them" isn't much of a step forward IMO.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Exclusivity Question
« on: March 13, 2011, 03:40 »
This is part of the Agency collection that came in via Getty Images. These are marked as exclusive (with a crown) but these contributors aren't the same as those who signed up with iStock directly. No upload limits, virtually no inspection process and worst of all some of them are selling their own images RF from their own websites - Rubberball Images does that. That would get any other exclusive booted.

Getty's the big dog and they get to break all the rules they want.

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If it weren't for the systematic targetting of Vetta (December) and flamers (Jan/Feb) I might buy the argument that credit card scammers were testing stolen card numbers to see if they were valid. Based on a little online reading (i.e. I don't have any professional connection with card processing or security) scammers look for sites with real time processing to see if they have a live one. Then they move on to spend on something big with physical product.

The big caveats with this would have to be that they were using each card just once and then moving on to another card for another file (i.e. there was a big fraud because there were tons of cards being tested). I thought that the credit prices reflected large bundles in some of the December frauds, but in checking my list of January frauds, the credit price (a) wasn't the same on sales made the same morning or evening and (b) wasn't the minimum, indicating smaller bundles.

Obviously I don't know if there were lots of cards or a few involved as IS shared no info with us on this. And I can't see why they'd have gone for Vetta or flamers unless they somehow thought that buying from the front of the search results might attract less attention?

For me, the big scary part is the end of February frauds (I didn't have any after Jan 24th) which suggests that IS is still vulerable.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Micromanaging the istock Forums
« on: March 11, 2011, 14:00 »
So the IS forums have become dull and lousy because you're all here! :D


I'm in two places at once :)

I tend to be very circumspect about how I behave on IS's forums to try and avoid a banning. So those of us who are both places are often more fun here!

You will find that there are some people here who remain anonymous. There are a few trolls, but mostly its folks trying to avoid retaliation from FT which has in the past closed a contributor account (and threatened others with the same) because of comments made on external forums that they deemed not to be favorable to them. So you might think you recognize someone, but please don't "out" them in the forum :)

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The Getty contract has an audit requirement, but AFAIK not the iStock ASA.

However, the Getty audit provision is pretty lame (i.e. very favorable to Getty and not contributors)

"4.7 Audit Rights. You may employ a certified accountant or licensed
financial advisor to audit payments made to you during the previous 36
months, at your expense unless the audit reveals that Getty Images has
underpaid you by more than 7.5%, in which case Getty Images will
reimburse you for the actual and reasonable auditors fees. Getty Images
will honor one audit request per calendar year, upon 60 days notice. If an
underpayment is discovered in an audit, Getty Images will pay
Contributor interest based on the average one month LIBOR rate for the
period under audit on the amount due from the date payment was due,
correct the books and records, and will pay any amounts due (subject to
any applicable Royalty Deductions) within 30 days after the amount due
is finally determined. In the event that an audit reveals any overpayment
to Contributor, Contributor agrees that Getty Images may deduct the
overpayment from Contributors earnings."

Note the 60 day notice requirement. If something untoward were going on, two months is lots of time to tidy it away where it can't be found. Seems pretty toothless to me.

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Given the Jan/Feb clawback is much bigger than the one for December frauds (for me, and reading the forum for other people too), it makes Mr. Great Communicator Thompson's post in December even more irritating.

My numbers were forutnately small - $71 - but much bigger than December where I only had one file in the "fraud pile".

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: File sabotage or bad luck
« on: March 10, 2011, 10:42 »
I don't have any information to share, and given how swamped they are at the moment, it may take a while, but I suggest you contact contributor relations to open a support ticket about this.

They may not be able to help you, but if there is some sort of targeting of a competitor file going on, they could probably reset the views as well as stop whatever the abuse is. I don't think that's all that likely given the overall small number of downloads (I'd expect targeted fraud to go for the super-hot sellers)

There was a bug a while back where views starting soaring on new files because of a bug (things were registering thousands of views in a day or two) but it was happening to everyone. Perhaps there is a bug of some sort causing your problem. As you probably realize, there's a lot of buggy things on the site right now :)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 09, 2011, 23:15 »
This afternoon rogermexico announced a bunch of fixes including multi term phrases in search. I just spent a little time going over some of the items I had reported problems with and they're different - not better - and still horribly broken.

I'm just horrified that they pushed such a wreck of a fix. I don't think they even went through and tested the exampled they'd been given in the bug reports in that massive thread (bug fixing 101 is test all the cases in the bug reports to make sure they're fixed).

See my post here describing the broken things I found. rogermexico's post is a couple above mine.

A phrase my Dad liked to use about useless people was "Couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery" (piss up is English slang for lots of drinking)

iStock's software people working on search really deserve that description. How utterly depressing to see many weeks of work producing this.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Micromanaging the istock Forums
« on: March 09, 2011, 17:06 »
There was a British TV series called Manor House which was a high-end reality show - people from today taken back to the ways of living of another era. The video diaries some of the participants kept noted how easily they fell into the roles assigned to them - the "upstairs" folks lording it over those playing servants even though that wasn't part of their real lives.

Where you stand depends on where you sit (I think a Don K. Price aphorism, but fits here).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Micromanaging the istock Forums
« on: March 09, 2011, 14:03 »
Once again, I'm happy to have a place here to continue discussions truncated over there.

I don't miss trying to have a discussion over there, at all. It's pretty well pointless, if you ask me.


I haven't quite given up hope that things might improve, but you probably guessed that as I still have the crown :) And in particular, there's only a small percentage of exclusives who hang out over here, so if I want to make a point and try to rouse other exclusives to take notice of something, there's still the place to try and do that.

I don't socialize there at all; it's strictly about trying to hold IS's toes to the fire about doing what they're supposed to and raising contributor-related issues. If I want to get an admin's attention, again, IS's forums is where I have to do that. While they're getting exceedingly good at ignoring us, we have managed to keep harping on things like missing subscription royalties and get our money (eventually).

Do you notice how sparse the Woo Yay thread in the off-topic forum is (and we're near the end of Winter; in the past it'd have been huge by now)? Winter 2006/7 257 posts; Winter 2010/11 30 posts... Guess no one feels much like celebrating :(

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Adobe Stock / Re: Worse than iStock for me
« on: March 09, 2011, 13:51 »
Sales at Fotolia are reasonably steady for me. Last month might just have been a BME if they had not cut my commissions. Not so good this month though. I've barely had a rejection for the last couple of years. My problem is that new images appear so far down in the default sort order that they have very little time to be noticed before they sink backwards and into obscurity.
Out of curiosity, do have any idea why yours start out low down in the default order? Or put another way, do you know who gets to be up front in searches or what kinds/ages/prices of images get to be up front? I assume they give some sort of push to exclusive contributors and exclusive images - I think you said in the past you'd given FT some exclusive images; have they done any better in initial placement?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Micromanaging the istock Forums
« on: March 09, 2011, 13:08 »
Seems a bit heavy handed to me too.

I'm entirely on board with keeping sales discussions coralled - they do spiral out of control if many threads are allowed - but I don't see how anyone is harmed by allowing a February 2011 sales thread to discuss comparisons as well as sales that occurred Feb 1 - 28. And if they allow comparisons to Feb 2010 (or 2009 or whatever) why is discussion of a trend that did/didn't continue into the first week of March a problem?

If someone had been rude, discussing a competitor, or something of that sort, shut that particular post down or delete it. AFAIK nothing of the sort happened.

I don't like being treated like a naughty child by the organization that derives 100% of its revenue from selling our work. Seems there's a "drunk with newfound power" atmosphere following their success in sticking it to contributors with the September 2010 cash grab.

Once again, I'm happy to have a place here to continue discussions truncated over there.

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Must also be a French speaking duck or cow, since English is banned in France.
French ducks say 'coin coin', French cows all just laugh, AFAIK.  ;)

What a cheesy joke !

Huge groan!!

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Image Sleuth / Re: How can someone do this?
« on: March 09, 2011, 12:23 »
I sent IS site mail to the contributor so they can get this taken care of.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Royalties lower than 2004!
« on: March 09, 2011, 12:17 »
Exclusive. The variability in here is largely a result of extended licenses. As I mentioned before, this is plain exclusive stuff (no Vetta, Agency or E+)

Dec  $4.14
Jan  $4.59
Feb  $4.22
Mar  $4.66

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Computer Hardware / Re: Are CF Cards Extinct?
« on: March 08, 2011, 18:16 »
Canon's consumer cameras use SD but the 5DII and up use CF. I buy mine online (although haven't since I got the 5DII) as I do most gear (camera and computer). Costco only deals with mass market stuff and I think it's probably true that high speed CF cards are no longer mass market items

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Getting Accepted on iStock
« on: March 08, 2011, 16:04 »
is this better on the black background?


No.

For an application, stay away from puppies, kittens, sunsets, tomatoes and peppers - they're all a dime a dozen in the existing libraries and unless you can make a stunner, it's best to do something else.

And if you want to be Sean, you have to be in more than one place at a time :)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Partner Program successful for some
« on: March 08, 2011, 12:49 »
Out of curiosity, I went through the sales thread.

People who say they are...
Up: 46 (of these, 27 said BME)
Down: 62
$ Up, DLs Down/Same: 12
Same/Average: 11
...


A lot of the BMEs are from bronze contributors. Given smaller portfolios and sales you get greater variability and a much easier time doubling small numbers. I'm not saying that diamonds are more important than bronzes, but just that it isn't useful when trying to get at the big picture to look at the ups and downs of new and small contributors.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Getting Accepted on iStock
« on: March 08, 2011, 12:44 »
It's a lot of guesswork with only small (versus 100%) images, but I think it's technical flaws that are the problem with these three.

Even at the small size I can see a dark ring around the bell pepper - the background wasn't white and your post processing wasn't precise enough. If you can't see that dark halo, then you need to look at calibrating your monitor. Without a calibrated monitor it's all guesswork and you sometimes can't see the flaws.

The child with the chessboard was shot at ISO 400 and so may be rather noisy (can't tell at the reduced size, but with the Rebel, I wouldn't go above IS 200 for stock)

The asparagus shot was at f/2.8 and I'm guessing the issues there were focus - the sharp area is so tiny at f/2.8 that may not have been the best choice for this composition.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 08, 2011, 01:38 »
what
How my pending videos have few (1-6) views if they are not accepted jet and not visible to buyers?

When admins or others view the pending file (most often if there's some sort of problem - stuck in the wrong part of the queue, missing a MR, some other glitch) it registers as a view.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Royalties lower than 2004!
« on: March 07, 2011, 23:54 »
I am really curious about IS and how much $ people are making there.  I am assuming these tiny sales represent the minority of overall sales there right?

What's the most common size and price for a sale there? 

Mat

That's going to vary so much - vector vs. photos (or video or audio); image sizes available (it goes up to XXXL), exclusive/non (more credits per image for exclusives). For February I averaged about $4.25 per sale (almost all photos, handful of vectors). I don't do Vetta or Agency. Some of those who do will have much higher average sales.

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iStockPhoto.com / Royalties lower than 2004!
« on: March 07, 2011, 14:08 »
I started a thread in IS's help forum this morning because I received a 34 cent royalty on an XS image sale (regular collection, not dollar bin). At a 35% royalty rate and 2 credits for that size, the buyer paid 48 cents a credit.

If a newbie independent - at 15% royalty - made an XS sale (1 credit) that would net them just over 7 cents. That's less than the 10 cents a sale royalty I got for a small size (it was S, M, L then) in 2004 when I was a newbie (and there was no exclusivity then; everyone was 20%). Even Yuri at 20% would only net 9.6 cents royalty on an XS.

You can see the discssion - if there is any - here, including Sean's referencce to an earlier enquiry about 50 cent per credit prices where CR had responded that it was a special deal for a large buyer.

I guess my thought was that too many credit sales at that sort of a discount and you've effectively brought the partner program to iStock - I'd have made 42 cents a sale on that image if it had been via the partner program.

I'm not sure where contributors go with this sort of price squeeze. But it does make me think that we have more to worry about than the RC targets that will determine our 2012 royalty rates. If IS is trying to bolster market share by cutting prices to bigger buyers our $$ per download are going to slip. Very depressing stuff.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: VettaImages.com ?
« on: March 07, 2011, 13:36 »
That web site is just a blank page - not going to sell much of anything that way :)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Partner Program successful for some
« on: March 07, 2011, 13:34 »
Sean McHugh is who sends the e-mail if you subscribe to CiC's newsletter. I am as sure as I can be without knowing that Mr. Shankie has nothing to do with CiC as he poo-poohed an article on it I referred him to way back when. He was wrong about something and I pointed to CiC's tutorial on that subject. He said who had time to read; he just wanted to take photos :)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: RGB or sRGB, which is better
« on: March 06, 2011, 23:28 »
Is it better to upload images as RGB or sRGB?  ...

Do you mean Adobe RGB or sRGB?

AFAIK the only common denominator across all sites at the moment is sRGB. If a site does not convert  images in spaces other than sRGB to sRGB when creating thumbs, lots of browsers will display the image with really unpleasant colors. As more browswers become color management aware (i.e. can read ICC profiles) it'd be OK for any image with an embedded profile, but I doubt sites will ever put profiles into thumbnail images as it'd make the files too large.

iStock is the only site that handles automatic conversion for thumbnail creation and web sizes from whatever profile you upload in - ProPhoto or Adobe RGB - but that's been broken for a month or so (fix supposedly just around the corner).

When I was independent, I always converted to sRGB when making the JPEGs to upload.

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