Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.

But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.

And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.

So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.

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Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 10:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Congratulations Wilm.
I think the others would also be very grateful if you would remove the dirt in front of the dollar sign.

Thank you, Ralf! Well, I guess the others should be able to approx. guess what is hidden there.

If you told us the average $ per download we could work out the hidden sum 😊 

I bet the total was higher for the 1st 50% of the downloads than the 2nd 🤔

Both is absolutely correct, Debbie!

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Quote from: DiscreetDuck on February 17, 2022, 14:02
Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... 

Great, that comment! 

And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.

what is you best agencies to sell vectors, instead adobe and SS ?

I can only answer the question very subjectively. Since my portfolio consists of renderings, vector graphics and photos, I would have to check very laboriously how many of the sales are vector graphics. That is hardly possible.

I would try - after AS and shutterstock - istock in the first place. There I have almost three times the amount of downloads compared to 123rf and also a higher RPD.

But I read from many providers that with them the RPD is very low at istock. With me, however, it is significantly higher than with shutterstock.

The upload process at istock is annoying and time consuming. And with 123rf it can take months until the images are accepted. There the review is a disaster!

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on February 17, 2022, 14:02
Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... 

Great, that comment! 

And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 17, 2022, 14:45

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 10:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Congratulations Wilm.
I think the others would also be very grateful if you would remove the dirt in front of the dollar sign.

Thank you, Ralf! Well, I guess the others should be able to approx. guess what is hidden there.

Quote from: SVH on February 17, 2022, 11:26

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 10:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Yes congrats, very impressive! How long did it take to get there?

Thank you very much. I started at shutterstock on 09/11/2010.

Quote from: DO on February 17, 2022, 10:44
Congratulations Wilm. You are a star 🍻

Good to read something here that is a success story and brings a smile 🙂

Thanks a lot, Deb! 

Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

The $0.70 subs no longer seems to exist at DT. As you can see in the screenshot I uploaded in the DT thread, most subs are at $2.00, some at $0.35 and a few at $0.38 and $2.20. That's more than many other agencies. But, as I said before, very little money comes in at DT because the download volume is very low.

I sold this one file 3 times last week. None of the prices achieved have anything to do with the revenue overview. This is - as with all other agencies - absolutely non-transparent!

Most likely, our revenue will be determined with a random number generator.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on February 16, 2022, 17:13
I had inquired about something similar years back and the answer was that there are various discounts offered in various situations that can lower the amount per credit or the number of credits the buyer is billed for. If I recall, they wouldn't detail the specifics for any particular sale, just the way things operated.

Thanks a lot for this explanation, Jo Ann!

Quote from: Camillo on February 16, 2022, 16:19
Those sites are owned by companies like dreamstime, wirestock etc. Wether you are aware of it, agreed to it or not some companies like ones mentioned give your work for free in exchange for a small rate. Smaller than what shutterstock charges but without the overhead of reviewing photos, categorizing or keywording since thy come straight out of our ports.

Could you show some examples - this would be very interesting.

Quote from: Camillo on February 16, 2022, 16:19
Our biggest enemy is free stock images and videos.

If nothing was given away we would have a business.

So true!

Quote from: pancaketom on February 16, 2022, 17:02
you should ask DT for the official answer, but are only some of these exclusive to DT? Prices have changed over time - especially for subs which used to go up at higher levels as I recall but now are all .35 (except for exclusive content?).

Another possibility is it is some sort of promotional discount - 30% off or something- but I think that might have only changed the cost of credits.

Thank you for your answer!

I don't offer any exclusive images anywhere. But you are right - I should ask dreamstime.

Someone had asked elsewhere in the forum about dreamstime's compensation model.

I came across something that I can't explain. Maybe someone of you has an idea.

It says at level 5 for a picture in resolution M: 16 credits
Why then with another M download only 8 credits were remunerated, I do not know.

Or why a vector file is remunerated once with 38 credits and once with 30 credits, although 38 credits are required?

Is someone able to explain this?

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Quote from: wds on February 16, 2022, 12:51
I still don't understand why the agencies don't try a pricing model where an image's price increases as its download numbers increase. They will make more, the contributor will make more.

This is exactly what dreamstime does.

Level 1 = 0 downloads
Level 2 = 1+ download
Level 3 = 5+ downloads
Level 4 = 10+ downloads
Level 5 = 25+ downloads

And, yes, I love this model.

Nevertheless, it has to be said that you can't earn big money at dreamstime because not enough sales come in. I have not even managed 3,500 downloads in the 10 years. Even if the RPD is good there, hardly anything comes in.

Interesting! I am not on Dreamstime and had no idea. How does it end up "dollars and cents"wise? What do you actually earn for a download of a "level 1" image vs. a "level 5" image?

There is no difference concerning shubscriptions and Enhanced Licenses. Here is a screenshot.

Quote from: ShadySue on February 16, 2022, 14:26

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Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 16, 2022, 13:00
I was checking on DM and uploads and by accident found the updates Dec 2021 royalties are posted.

I can afford a 24 pack of diet Coke on this months Gross earnings. (and they are gross)

RPD .66

Thanks for the info, but I think you meant Jan 22.
Wasn't expecting report until Friday.
My Jan total is c30% better than last year (which was very poor) , and 'just' below Jan '20.
rpd (exclusive) $1.85.

Yes, January Licenses 2022. I'll go fix that.

I can see the downloads for January, Pete. But where can you see your income for January 2022?

I'm not Pete, but I see mine by clicking on Royalties.

Oh, thank you so much, Sue!

Now I have learned something after all these years. I didn't realize that I could see the royalties before they were paid out. I have never looked there before.

RPD $0.98 for January 2022.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 16, 2022, 14:08

Quote from: ShadySue on February 16, 2022, 13:11

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 16, 2022, 13:00
I was checking on DM and uploads and by accident found the updates Dec 2021 royalties are posted.

I can afford a 24 pack of diet Coke on this months Gross earnings. (and they are gross)

RPD .66

Thanks for the info, but I think you meant Jan 22.
Wasn't expecting report until Friday.
My Jan total is c30% better than last year (which was very poor) , and 'just' below Jan '20.
rpd (exclusive) $1.85.

Yes, January Licenses 2022. I'll go fix that.

I can see the downloads for January, Pete. But where can you see your income for January 2022?

For me, December was the fourth best month ever at iStock/getty.

RPD $1.33 - non exclusive.

I hope it continues like this there.

Quote from: wds on February 16, 2022, 12:51
I still don't understand why the agencies don't try a pricing model where an image's price increases as its download numbers increase. They will make more, the contributor will make more.

This is exactly what dreamstime does.

Level 1 = 0 downloads
Level 2 = 1+ download
Level 3 = 5+ downloads
Level 4 = 10+ downloads
Level 5 = 25+ downloads

And, yes, I love this model.

Nevertheless, it has to be said that you can't earn big money at dreamstime because not enough sales come in. I have not even managed 3,500 downloads in the 10 years. Even if the RPD is good there, hardly anything comes in.

Quote from: ShadySue on February 15, 2022, 21:16

Quote from: Wilm on February 15, 2022, 20:53
I have asked Alamy to delete my account. According to their own statement, they need 45 days for this. I don't know why it takes so long.

It's in the contract/agreement we signed up to.
And apparently your pics can be sold for quite some time after that (but you'll still get paid, FWIW).

Thank you for this information, Sue!

I have asked Alamy to delete my account. According to their own statement, they need 45 days for this. I don't know why it takes so long.

Those sales to China were what got me to do that.

Stats after the first half of the month.

shutterstock

February 01-14, 2022 vs. 2021
DLs minus 5%
Revenues plus 31.4%

AS

February 01 to 14, 2022 vs. 2021
DLs minus 28%
Revenues minus 66.4%

February 2021 at AS was very good, March even better. I hope that this will also go up significantly this year.


AS vs. SS revenues, February 01 to 14, 2022 vs. 2021: +7.5%

Internet + Abe Lincoln = 

Quote from: UPLOAD-UPLOAD-UPLOAD on February 11, 2022, 18:16
Instead I use my Apple 11 Pro Max. for my alternative, always have on me camera.
It does a great job, my images get accepted by all agencies I use  and they sell.

Like hot cakes - you forgot to mention that...