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General Stock Discussion / new pond5 licensing?
« on: May 12, 2020, 10:24 »
not sure exactly what this means as a contributor (not exactly sure how it differs before what was set up, and/or if it affects longterms sales... my feeling is shortterms sales may increase (people like 'broad' licenses) - but not sure what it means for you as a contributor long term? just received an e-mail that said...

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We've made licensing easier! Starting today, everything sold on Pond5 - including Commercial and Editorial Video & Images, Music, Sound Effects, After Effects Templates, and 3D Models - is available with the broadest rights in the industry. Included in the list price, our Individual License provides worldwide distribution, across all media, forever. On top of that, youll also get $15,000 in legal coverage free-of-charge for a completely worry-free experience.
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they are very slimy. they may also will doubletax you which is illegal (seems to be on a random per case basis), but they are doing it.

(more specifically - they will withhold 2x the amount - and pocket 1/2 of that under the guise of 'withholding' tax for you).

Hey,

i just applied to become a contributor at Envato Elements and after some time of entering data I finally reached a site telling me:

Your Application has been submitted successfully. GoodLuck!
If you are successful you should expect an email from the team - this can take up to 5 weeks
If you are unsuccessful you won't hear from us.
We appreciate your patience!


This must be a joke... are they serious? If i didn't make it, they don't even send a f...ing email?

If I make it there, i will immadiatly close down that account... unbelievable how photographers are treated these days :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: $300 single video sale
« on: May 11, 2020, 17:04 »
What if they distribute a few at random, so that we talk about this on the forums and they will entice more people to submit good contents? Like winning at the lottery!

well - with the 95-100% rejection rate on shutterstock right now for new images/videos... hard to try out...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: $300 single video sale
« on: May 11, 2020, 14:26 »
I think last year I had *a* video sale for something like $150...

kind of makes up for all the $0.60 "increasing your market share" video sales from there too...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: stupid rejection
« on: May 10, 2020, 17:56 »

150,161 cheeseburger stock photos Why would anyone even take the time to shoot and upload yet another cheeseburger photo? What's the point?

because MY picture of the cheeseburger is the BEST. :) and EVERYONE needs to buy it!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: stupid rejection
« on: May 09, 2020, 19:14 »
And yet in the ss forums some users defend the ss with a passion.msybe these are also reviewers? Xmmm

haha, you might actually be correct! :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: stupid rejection
« on: May 09, 2020, 13:23 »
Not to lose the mood of the thread, and just in case everyone doesn't read everywhere.  :)



Sorry I left out similar but every spin of the wheel, the image gets rendered with the new text and it was starting to get fuzzy.

haha - I *LIKE* that... yes, that is EXACTLY what shutterstock reviewers are using to decide if a clip gets through :P

683

The campaign, from what I read in this article, is meant to counter disinformation coming from Trump, not to spread disinformation about him....basically the polar opposite of what you claimed.

I read it that way too now that I have the actual article to read, not somebody's sly, smirking interpretation of it.  :o
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it's in conjunction with a few other articles... if you like, I can see if I can find those too? (see above post where I replied to the previous poster)...

but basically - from the other articles I read too (see if I can find those as well) - it appears the dems under the guise of removing disinformation, then want to use exactly the same things they are accusing trump of doing to push the dem agenda... so its like the pot calling the kettle black...

684

 there was a news article recently (which I can't seem to find at the moment, frustrating - but 3-4 days ago) - but if I recall the gist of it - it was a higher up in the army that supported biden that said they were specifically going to use a disinformation campaign against trump (the same type of algorithms they used against other hostile nations), and pay social influencers big $$$ to put their support behind biden.

LOL, indeed.

IMHO, what you wrote above sounds exactly like the kind of vague, untraceable, made-up "news articles" anonymously planted in the darkest corners of the web with the express intent of smearing and slandering a candidate the poster does not support.

You know, the kind of slimy, unproven and unprovable rumors that shouldn't even be there to find in the first place, much less eagerly read, and for sure not gleefully passed on to others. 

So, thanks for the tip, but I prefer the news I find on reputable news outlets.

<sigh> okay then... I spent a few minutes finding the article, just for you...

here is your article, do you consider the washington post, in your humble opinion, to be worthy of a read?

washingtonpost.com/politics/technology-once-used-to-combat-isis-propaganda-is-enlisted-by-democratic-group-to-counter-trumps-coronavirus-messaging/2020/05/01/6bed5f70-8a5b-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

The campaign, from what I read in this article, is meant to counter disinformation coming from Trump, not to spread disinformation about him....basically the polar opposite of what you claimed.

not quite - in conjunction with a few other articles I read (I suppose I can find those too if you wish) - basically, the dems under the guise of 'countering' trump are also trying to 'manipulate' (not give voters a chance to make up their own mind) into making a vote...

685

 there was a news article recently (which I can't seem to find at the moment, frustrating - but 3-4 days ago) - but if I recall the gist of it - it was a higher up in the army that supported biden that said they were specifically going to use a disinformation campaign against trump (the same type of algorithms they used against other hostile nations), and pay social influencers big $$$ to put their support behind biden.

LOL, indeed.

IMHO, what you wrote above sounds exactly like the kind of vague, untraceable, made-up "news articles" anonymously planted in the darkest corners of the web with the express intent of smearing and slandering a candidate the poster does not support.

You know, the kind of slimy, unproven and unprovable rumors that shouldn't even be there to find in the first place, much less eagerly read, and for sure not gleefully passed on to others. 

So, thanks for the tip, but I prefer the news I find on reputable news outlets.

<sigh> okay then... I spent a few minutes finding the article, just for you...

here is your article, do you consider the washington post, in your humble opinion, to be worthy of a read?

washingtonpost.com/politics/technology-once-used-to-combat-isis-propaganda-is-enlisted-by-democratic-group-to-counter-trumps-coronavirus-messaging/2020/05/01/6bed5f70-8a5b-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html


Yes, actually I do! ;D I'm a WaPo subscriber, read it online every day, and trust it.

What I don't trust is someone (not speaking of anyone in particular, of course) who posts stuff like "there was a news article recently (which I can't seem to find at the moment, frustrating - but 3-4 days ago)" .

How trustworthy would you consider that if somebody else happened to write it here?  8)

well, I would do a quick search to see if I could find it first... but - mm - yeah - i suppose if someone else 'just' wrote that - perhaps I may have replied the same way as you :)

686

 there was a news article recently (which I can't seem to find at the moment, frustrating - but 3-4 days ago) - but if I recall the gist of it - it was a higher up in the army that supported biden that said they were specifically going to use a disinformation campaign against trump (the same type of algorithms they used against other hostile nations), and pay social influencers big $$$ to put their support behind biden.

LOL, indeed.

IMHO, what you wrote above sounds exactly like the kind of vague, untraceable, made-up "news articles" anonymously planted in the darkest corners of the web with the express intent of smearing and slandering a candidate the poster does not support.

You know, the kind of slimy, unproven and unprovable rumors that shouldn't even be there to find in the first place, much less eagerly read, and for sure not gleefully passed on to others. 

So, thanks for the tip, but I prefer the news I find on reputable news outlets.

<sigh> okay then... I spent a few minutes finding the article, just for you...

here is your article, do you consider the washington post, in your humble opinion, to be worthy of a read?

washingtonpost.com/politics/technology-once-used-to-combat-isis-propaganda-is-enlisted-by-democratic-group-to-counter-trumps-coronavirus-messaging/2020/05/01/6bed5f70-8a5b-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

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lol, what's the "rule" about the three things you should never discuss? politics, religion, & something else?

keeping it strictly analytical (without taking sides), based on your question:

a) it does appear to be specifically designed to get biden elected. there was a news article recently (which I can't seem to find at the moment, frustrating - but 3-4 days ago) - but if I recall the gist of it - it was a higher up in the army that supported biden that said they were specifically going to use a disinformation campaign against trump (the same type of algorithms they used against other hostile nations), and pay social influencers big $$$ to put their support behind biden.

b) educated guess - I would say probably most people would not (knowingly) support a company/person/etc that had a different value system from their own. meaning, if someone liked trump, I don't believe they would knowingly support a biden campaign, and vice versa, if someone liked biden, don't think they would knowingly support a trump campaign.

c) it does seem to be more about 'how can we manipulate someone into voting for _______', as opposed to 'how can we find the person that will govern the best, put the interests of the people at the forefront, and govern the best to ensure everyone can have a "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"'...

688
lol wow.

translation: "nice of you to work for free, take all the risk, while we take the lions share of any sales, doing pretty much actually nothing because are advertising is automated. but we've decided we can get more money elsewhere, so 'buh bye'. ___ off..."

wow.

time to start your own agency!

689
Image part of microstock is over-saturated now and there is fierce war. The video market has almost no competition. If you search for keywords such as car on SS, you get millions of images, few thousands in videos and further filter it for 4k and non-editorials, the result is in thousands. The myth of Russia, Ukrain and Thailand based contributor's dominance in microstock market is also busted with hard-core numbers.
I spent good amount of time if location has an advantage for contributor. It has an edge but none if there is no business sense.
Top 3 contributors on SS are : 1st is from Kazakhstan, 2nd is from Canada, 3rd is from Russia and I do not see Thailand in top 10 list anywhere.  Yes 4th is from Britain.

We have to operate it like business. You have to look at gorodenkoff, google it you will get everything. He is able to run it like business and has team of people.

Finally, look at the microstockrank site. The numbers are till Jan 2020 but those numbers speak a lot of value.

My graded plan is working, moving slowly from image to videos. Right now doing 4k. and for future, upgrade the video camera and move to 8k and put yourself at right angle. 

Another interesting statistic is : Each of 90% of total contributors has less than 1000 images/videos on sale. 20% of 10% are ruling the game.

how/where are you seeing who the top contributors are? and you do you mean by volume? or sales?

You can see who are top contributors at SS on the site microstockrank . Add dot com at the end of microstockrank . By volume I mean, number of videos or images. You have to have material to sell.

thanks, & lol! holy crap some of those are spammiiiiiieeeeeeeeee portfolios...

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Finally... if you want to do something about this dishonesty/manipulation of license terms, the best way would probably be to start contacting invidual authors on pexels (there is a message button) and let them know their "free" work is being resold for profit on jumpstory - without any attribution/etc. so they are basically working for free to make other people money.

691
looking further into pexels (I know I heard of them before, never really researched them though)...

seems they are simply a variation of instagram/pinterest with their scrolling images & the "GET FOLLOWERS! GET LIKES! GET.... drum roll... EXPOSURE!!!" - except unlike instagram - they basically give themselves the rights to use the images/photos/videos...

and *pretty sure* pexel is violating other people's rights since they don't inspect if content is editorial - so when someone posts a picture they took of someone else - they could get into hot water - (because they are then relicensing it for profit via jumpstory)...

i.e., if someone took a picture of "Taylor swift" - uploaded it for free (first off all, taylor probably wouldn't be too happy) - but then jumpstory would say "oh yeah! use this in your publications!" - so then you might see a t.v. commercial for a product with a picture of taylor swift endorsing it...

692
So, did a little bit of quick research...

Short version - assuming/seems jumpstory is in bed with pexels (a "free" image site that doesn't allow people to resell images, unless what they don't say it is them profiting from other peoples work).

Long story:
a) Seems they are getting their images from "pexels". (Whether they are stealing them, or have some kind of arrangement, I don't know). But for example, this picture here on their site: https://jumpstory.com/about-us/ (https://jumpstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/transformation-1024x683.jpg) is straight from https://www.pexels.com/photo/the-transformation-1669547/

or, for example, the guy in the car with the girl on their page here: https://jumpstory.com/features/
https://jumpstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/jumpstory-download20200429-191747.jpg

also found on pexels: https://images.pexels.com/photos/1468068/pexels-photo-1468068.jpeg

b) Not sure if the authors know that their work is being 'resold' for profit... (highly unlikely).

c) REALLY fascinating: Pexel on their licensing page says:
https://www.pexels.com/license/

What is not allowed?

Respect the hard work of our contributors and keep these restrictions in mind.

    ✕ Identifiable people may not appear in a bad light or in a way that is offensive.
    ✕ Don't sell unaltered copies of a photo or video, e.g. as a poster, print or on a physical product without modifying it first.
    ✕ Don't imply endorsement of your product by people or brands on the imagery.
    ✕ Don't redistribute or sell the photos and videos on other stock photo or wallpaper platforms.

And yet......... the images are being 'redistributed' on "jumpstory".

So in all likelihood - the owners at jumpstory contacted pexels - and pexels said sure, lets work out a deal. (Even though pexel in their short license agreement tells other people not to simply "resell" authors work under another site - they are essentially doing exactly that by 'licensing' the content to jumpstory, then jumpstory paying them a fee for that re-sold content).

And it is obviously dishonest - *because* jumpstories selling points aren't "oh, we have tools to help you image process" - but rather "Signup and get 25 MILLION images"...

So... the contributors to the free pexel site are getting screwed basically.

693
probably stolen images... or "repurposed" from a site like unsplash (i.e., they just simply scraped/downloaded all the imges from unsplash and say 'oh yeah! we have a new portfolio!")

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Some reviewer at SS has limited imagination, shots with same GH5 from different dates, indoors, outdoors, landscape, travel, health and safety, aquarium, driving - 10 out of 13 or 16 out of 18 rejected for "Content contains noise, film grain, compression artifacts, pixelation, and/or posterization that detracts from the main subject". It started a couple of months ago like this - commercial clips waiting for review 7-10 days (used to be 3-4 days), but editorials reviewed in a day or two from same batch and accepted. I am loosing interest in doing this. If SS would give contributors new rules/guidelines/examples what's acceptable and what's not it wouldn't be frustrating or tell us to slow down if they can't cope it would be understandable, but now out of nothing rejecting majority of work is not encouraging at all.

easy: rules are:

a) you have to be a friend of the reviewer
b) you have to BE a reviewer

if you aren't one of those two - REJECTED!

695
Image part of microstock is over-saturated now and there is fierce war. The video market has almost no competition. If you search for keywords such as car on SS, you get millions of images, few thousands in videos and further filter it for 4k and non-editorials, the result is in thousands. The myth of Russia, Ukrain and Thailand based contributor's dominance in microstock market is also busted with hard-core numbers.
I spent good amount of time if location has an advantage for contributor. It has an edge but none if there is no business sense.
Top 3 contributors on SS are : 1st is from Kazakhstan, 2nd is from Canada, 3rd is from Russia and I do not see Thailand in top 10 list anywhere.  Yes 4th is from Britain.

We have to operate it like business. You have to look at gorodenkoff, google it you will get everything. He is able to run it like business and has team of people.

Finally, look at the microstockrank site. The numbers are till Jan 2020 but those numbers speak a lot of value.

My graded plan is working, moving slowly from image to videos. Right now doing 4k. and for future, upgrade the video camera and move to 8k and put yourself at right angle. 

Another interesting statistic is : Each of 90% of total contributors has less than 1000 images/videos on sale. 20% of 10% are ruling the game.

how/where are you seeing who the top contributors are? and you do you mean by volume? or sales?

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thanks for sharing, makes sense for most of the images...

one image I don't get/understand is - the white block that is partially broken off? first of all, what is that? and second, I don't quite understand why someone would buy that? (the other images make sense to me - but that one - maybe because I don't know what it is, don't know why someone would want it?)

It's a block of brewer's yeast. During the lockdown here in Italy it became really difficult to find, so while making some bread at home I took a photo of it (a couple actually, but this is the one that sold the most).

ah, okay, haha, lol! i guess here we don't sell that - so I've never seen it before... I thought it was some kind of broken marble brick or something!

It was hard to find in US right now also, but you can still bay in some stores. You can by dry or fresh.

oh i mean - in my entire life, I don't believe I've *ever* seen a block of brewyers yeast!

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thanks for sharing, makes sense for most of the images...

one image I don't get/understand is - the white block that is partially broken off? first of all, what is that? and second, I don't quite understand why someone would buy that? (the other images make sense to me - but that one - maybe because I don't know what it is, don't know why someone would want it?)

It's a block of brewer's yeast. During the lockdown here in Italy it became really difficult to find, so while making some bread at home I took a photo of it (a couple actually, but this is the one that sold the most).

ah, okay, haha, lol! i guess here we don't sell that - so I've never seen it before... I thought it was some kind of broken marble brick or something!

698
thanks for sharing, makes sense for most of the images...

one image I don't get/understand is - the white block that is partially broken off? first of all, what is that? and second, I don't quite understand why someone would buy that? (the other images make sense to me - but that one - maybe because I don't know what it is, don't know why someone would want it?)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: AdobeStock shutdown ??
« on: May 05, 2020, 09:33 »
clear your cookies & restart your browser. chances are they upgraded something for logging in, and previous cookies are interfering with that...

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Adobe Stock / Re: 503 anyone?
« on: May 05, 2020, 08:03 »
haha, okay good not just me... yes - was getting that all last night - "finally" (kind of) got logged in this morning, but SUPER slow...
cleared my cookies - and re-logged in - maybe that will do it for you?

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