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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock changing royalty structure
« on: September 28, 2010, 17:41 »
I meant JJRD and rogermexico. I've never met KK, so I can't say anything about him.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock changing royalty structure
« on: September 28, 2010, 17:28 »
Both of them are really nice and honest people that I personally know and trust. That said, I will act according to my financial results. By the way, today is shaping really great, and even for Vettas.

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of course there's a bias towards Vetta. that isn't new, nor is it the point. you know what, you guys have your little club for the disgruntled over here. enjoy throwing sand in each others' faces and peeing in the pool.

It's not a little club, it's just that the balance of power and logic is shifting.  Prior to all of this you had a bunch of arrogant istock exclusives who were so loyal to istock that no matter what they did, who they effected, this group would defend their decisions... and their opinions domanited this forum.  istock always got by because of this loyalty but their contributors, even a lot of the exclusives have seen them for what they really are.  You and a few others are just slow waking up, that's all.

Arrogant? ... that's clearly subjective, probably more in your mind than in reality. Loyal? Yes, why not, but nor without reason. Until Photos.com and TS, all what did istock was good for contributors, exclusive or not, and for the business... particularly rescuing the infra microstock prices and making them more logical and fair. And, even now, they have the fairest suscription system everywhere.
Yes, things have changed (not much for me, to be true), but I will concede a 100 days proof period from January to see how the new situation works.
I've read and this forum that some exlusives "feel trapped". And maybe it's true, but not for the reasons stated. If I feel trapped is just because there's nowhere to go without having to swallow the miser 30-35 cents-every- size subscriptions. That makes any alternative less atractive.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock changing royalty structure
« on: September 26, 2010, 19:15 »
This is a discussion forum, remember? Having read scores of posts by you every time they had a price raise at the Istock one I coudn't avoid a smile. Sorry. And you can buy your files and your food wherever you want, of course. But you can't forbid me to have my own opinion.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Rob (Sylvanworks) will be missed
« on: September 26, 2010, 18:56 »
Rob Sylvan has been always a gentleman and a very fair person. He will do well wherever he goes, as he deserves.

Related: Although I don't know if that was Rob's case, this illustrates a bit the downfalls of letting the business part gain weight over the comunity part. When you have a real community, there are a lot of members willing to make things for free (from Critique Forum, to attending fairs, organizing lypses, programming utilities, etc.) When it's just a business, this part disappears and the business has to pay for anything. I repeat, I supposse this wasn't Rob's case, because he was an Administrator, but I know of a lot of people that willingly did many things for free.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock changing royalty structure
« on: September 26, 2010, 18:46 »
You don't remember well.

One of the two don't remeber well, but I'm not going now to dive in istock forums archives to make my point. Maybe others remember too.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock changing royalty structure
« on: September 26, 2010, 18:05 »
Well I'm banned from the forums & sitemail haha! Called a trolls response pathetic & responded to Lobo saying I wouldn't be intimidated by his bullish behaviour and thinly veiled threats to me on sitemail.

It would appear somone is a tad insecure in their authority... go figure.

How many others have felt the light touch of the wiffle hammer?

Anyhoo - had to register somewhere and voice my displeasure at censorship. Carry on all! (and hello all on these forums!)

I think it's too funny that they ban you from sitemail too. What is the point of that? The whole banning thing seems rather childish and vindictive anyway, especially considering the random nature of the whole thing. I see people on there who have posted much more than my 10 or so posts and have been way more critical and insulting and they apparently still have their posting privileges.

As a buyer who is taking my business elsewhere now, I still get the last laugh though. :D

Well, if I remember well, you have been taking your business elsewhere sice the times where istock raised prices to 1-2-3 credits.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock in strange image ownership controversy
« on: September 24, 2010, 12:24 »
Never heard of him. And I've heard of many, many blog gurus.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock in strange image ownership controversy
« on: September 23, 2010, 16:22 »
Exactly.  It's all starting to look nonsensical.  The blogger is remarkably quiet when asked for any details.

Exactly. His silence speaks volumes.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock in strange image ownership controversy
« on: September 23, 2010, 09:50 »
Very strange. Out of character for istock, if they had ben really contacted. Istock policy is first take down image or whole portfolio, investigate, and reins-taurate then the image if aprropiate (last example: what happened with this exclusive inspector, and this even wasn't a copyright problem). The photographer, Mark J. hasn't said a word... except , allegedly,  to the "claimer"). I can be wrong, but I can't avoid smelling funny things, and not from istock part.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: A Fable for those considering exclusivity
« on: September 21, 2010, 17:51 »
haha... passionate for his work... For other passions you should ask Brianna....

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: A Fable for those considering exclusivity
« on: September 21, 2010, 17:33 »
It's true that the history of Bruce getting the 50 millions all for himself must be a legend. Obviously, Bruce had debts and credits istock-related to pay (f that wasn't assumed by getty), but no so much as you hint. The Istockphoto start-up didn't had a cost; it was a very small site all based in community work. Istock had a steady growth through the years, and, being the first, didn't need the strong inversion that, for example, needed FT back in 2005. istock was sold because there was a need of money to grow big and expand. That said, I agree that Bruce is a nice a passionate guy. I met him years ago, when he already was the boss of the most successful stock site in the world, and he was the humblest, friendly and most approachable boss that I've ever met.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: A Fable for those considering exclusivity
« on: September 21, 2010, 11:50 »
I think "never put all your eggs in one basket" sums it up more succinctly for me.  I would never feel comfortable only being able to sell RF with one site, as they have too much power and then they get greedy.

The sentence is right, but maybe your interpretation isn't. The question is: what is the basket? My answer: the basket is not istock, or FT or DT... The basket is microstock as a whole. Not tomorrow, but I think what has been done by Getty/Istock will be done for other in the short mid-term. In some way, with less margin, it would be more difficult for them to compete... at least that's what probably will be said. At it will be raining everywhere.
So, my advice would be: diversify, look for income from photography, but not just from microstock or stock. It is the safer way.

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Your comfort with exploitative business practices tells me all I need to know about you.

Now that you are leaving... have you though that maybe some of the places where are you going won't let you express any discomfort you could get and that if you do it anyway maybe you will get something more than a simple forum and sitemail ban?

I just say that because you seem the kind of people that needs to express your opinions, in a reiterative way. Against what I have nothing, of course.

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One or two forum bans after about 10,000 posts in three threads, some of them let's say "overenthusiastic" in their criticisms and showing a variety of adjectives it's no as much... At another sites that would had last about ten minutes...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Agency Collection Now Showing up on IStock
« on: September 18, 2010, 06:55 »


I am sorry I am jumping in the middle of the thread, but I just feel I have to say a few words here. First of all, I did not read all of the replies, but according to the reply from FD and his link to Fstop, I don't feel the same way as you guys, I don't see what most of you see. Come on, guys! I have to say I'm sorry to FD and everyone else, I have nothing personal against you but Fstop's site, at least the one that FD links to, I see a much better photographer than many of us. I wish I had a portfolio like his. Okay, there are some images that he probably should delete, but all in all, it is just superb. I don't know if I am looking at the same portfolio as you, but the link from FD leads me to the one I'm talking about.
I am sorry FD, but I have to say this and don't take it personally, I like your post and I will be reading them with interest.

Kone

Have to agree to some extent....it's easy to pick out the crap but there is high quailty work on the site, superior to a lot of "exclusive" work on IS - inflammatory but true I'm afraid
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Can't agree. And most, quality could be considered "similar". On the other hand, content at IS (and at SS FT etc) looks way "newer" and "fresher".

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockphoto Inspection Preferential Lane
« on: September 17, 2010, 11:25 »
sure, but we're talking about apples and oranges anyways, since the point of highlighting this example is the incorrect assumption that this contributor is an admin/inspector/employee. she is none of those things. she is a contributor only, which negates the whole theory behind this thread.

Se has a lot of very good, very styled and very well pothographed stock work. Simplicity is a tricky word, in this context. All she has just can be reached with cpmpetence and hard work.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Rejected Istock image - advice please.
« on: September 16, 2010, 17:11 »
Why am I getting the sense that getting a straight rejection explanation is going to be difficult with istock... :-)

Both of your points so far have not actually dealt with anything technical, which is their stated reason for rejection.

Are you saying that a photo can be technically correct, but they will reject it for subject matter, but state that it is for technical reasons.

If that is the case, then that is a dishonest culture at the company...?
 
 
 

Yeah, lightning is flawed.... but my point is that if the photo is very stock worthy or with and art edge, they can bit a bit lenient at technical flaws, for what I've read.

In other words: if the photo was of two planes collidinfg in flight, a bit of noise wouldn't be such a problem. In my opinion.


                                 

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Rejected Istock image - advice please.
« on: September 16, 2010, 16:00 »
Why am I getting the sense that getting a straight rejection explanation is going to be difficult with istock... :-)

Both of your points so far have not actually dealt with anything technical, which is their stated reason for rejection.

Are you saying that a photo can be technically correct, but they will reject it for subject matter, but state that it is for technical reasons.

If that is the case, then that is a dishonest culture at the company...?
 
 
 


No. Being not considered not useful for stock (no stock worthy) is one of the rejection causes stated on their tutorial.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Rejected Istock image - advice please.
« on: September 16, 2010, 12:37 »
If the image is dull (sory), they tend to be much more harder at other aspects.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Agency Collection Now Showing up on IStock
« on: September 16, 2010, 03:17 »
It's obvious macro shooters are some steps behind.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Agency Collection Now Showing up on IStock
« on: September 15, 2010, 20:04 »
I was expecting something more shocking. These seem plain average shots, and without the edge of Vetta images.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Money where my mouth is.
« on: September 15, 2010, 10:45 »
IS moves have always lead the way for other agencies. We have seen that, for example, in prices. If IS increases prices, they leave space to others doing it as well. If IS decreases contributor margins... here there's another space that maybe will be followed and filled. What would you do then?

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StockFresh / Re: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff
« on: September 13, 2010, 11:43 »
Free sites (at least free sites with a semi-decent content database) don't really exist. "Free" mean that contributors give away their work for free, and that's the only free part of the business. Owners get rewarded with income coming from ads, links etc. Customers get the product for free exposing themselves to the ads, etc.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock Second "Explanation" to Contributors
« on: September 13, 2010, 05:15 »
Well, but Getty results, with this formula, aren't and haven't been for years good at all. Maybe the should stick with the formula that really works.

What do you mean their results haven't been good for years?

Well I think they have faced financial trouble and operating at loss, the same as Corbis and others. Actually it would be better Getty copying the formula of istock, than viceversa (what they tend to do now).

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