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726
« on: February 01, 2017, 17:15 »
Doesn't work.
It'd be good if someone took a screenshot.
Great, easy to read, organized, shows what we need first.
727
« on: February 01, 2017, 11:26 »
where do you see all this on alamy?
looks like i still have old page
cant find any of that discoverability things
Correct. I'm still on the old system too, but read the forums. Big discussion of the discoverability thing. Looks like maybe it's not going to be more than a guide. I see many who are ignoring it for just good words and not playing the 10+50 and all fields filled game. Don't know why Alamy would encourage keyword spam?
729
« on: January 31, 2017, 15:44 »
This January was ok, but these last 2 days are dead like a bad weekend, and this is unusual - last day of each month has always been a good day for me, even if it was a so-so month.
Or could it be due to Chinese New Year?
LOL, I hope that was a joke? It was Saturday January 28th, the dreaded year of the Rooster Saturday. Which is possibly the worst day of the week to start with. I had to look because dollars down, sales up. I had a good SO last year which is the difference. 2015 same numbers of sales as 2017, same dollars as 2016. In 2014 same number of sales, much less money. In round numbers, it's pretty much unchanged in three years for me.
730
« on: January 31, 2017, 15:36 »
What they allow according to that article is pretty bizarre - run, runner and running all in the same title (example 3 in the link above). Unfortunately my titles are all just two or three words such as "Mumbles sunrise" rather than a spammy "The sun rises behind the lighthouse in the Welsh resort village of Mumbles" so I suppose I am losing piles of sales.
My titles are short like yours but I don't think your alternative title is spammy nothing in it that isn't relevant, possibly.
Plus I think this entire thread was started to sell software. Last time the same happened the consensus here was, people write those spammed titles, we don't need software to find them? 
732
« on: January 31, 2017, 14:15 »
I did a little experimenting, plus looking at which of my images supposedly have "good" discoverability versus "poor" and you need at least 40 of 50 keywords to get the good rating.
I have lots of images with over 30 keywords (some because Alamy used to split multi-word keywords up) and tried adding a category, or location, or information to the caption to see if it would make an image "good" and those seemed to make no difference.
I hope that their notion of good vs. poor doesn't affect search position because if you have the important keywords for an image, that's more important than getting the numbers up.
41 keywords (relevant - just!), 100 supertags and all relevant boxes ticked - still poor discoverability. Just 47 of my 2000 or so images rate as 'good'.
I just hope discoverability does not mean what it sounds like it means ie the chances of a buyer discovering an image and then - hopefully - buying it. If it does, then we're doomed, I say.........doomed.....lost in the swamp of undiscoverable and forgotten images........jolly dee.......
I have no idea if the discoverability means anything or is just advise. Still old system. I read the instructions. 100 supertags? I thought it said only 10 allowed? Does anyone know what the rating is about or what it actually means, if anything? Years ago Alamy wrote that the artists rank only matters after a number of sales. Looked like that number was 100. Does artist rank mean anything now, or have they changed to image rank?
733
« on: January 31, 2017, 14:09 »
this agency risk most of all that saturation of poor content will move a lot of customer to other agency...
in my opinion a real rf low cost agency with only the best quality and strong rejection policy, like restock , will rise soon to compete....i'm not a buyerr but if i were i would be scared to browse through any of the rf agency....
Not sure if I can fully agree. FT has rejected works that SS and IS have accepted. I also seem to see they have a different direction for content. FT has accepted some that IS and SS have rejected. This is all in the last year, since the addition of AdobeStock site and new owners. I did have a question. If I upload an old better selling image, which has been other places since 2010 and now it's new, just months, on AS and selling. Is it an old image selling or a new image selling? It's new to FT and selling, it's seven years old everywhere else and selling.
734
« on: January 31, 2017, 13:59 »
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Nope just an important updates email. But keep in mind Shady is an exclusive. It's not the 3rd yet is it? 
735
« on: January 31, 2017, 13:40 »
Seems to me that the real damage to sales is being done by the change in 'search'. When a potential buyer clicks on one of your images, they used to be offered similar images (based on keywords) from YOUR portfolio (same artist). Now the offering of alternatives is often not from your portfolio and is a pixel-based/color-pattern similarity search. If I were a buyer who had searched using keywords, I'd be seriously annoyed at SS offering these pixel-based alternatives because often they're totally irrelevant.
Another thing I've just noticed about the search is that in the past is that the keyword order changed as the image sold more frequently. Keywords appeared to be ordered on the basis of popularity as the image sold.....not any more. Keywords are now purely in alphabetical order as they appear under the image selected. Hardly surprising that sales of established portfolios have changed drastically (mostly for the worse according to contributors here).
You are correct. I've watched the keywords change on sold files and stay the same on unsold, from same upload. I watched the words go to alpha sort. I could guess that the search didn't change but the keywords did. And expect they will change again. Currently upload order of keywords makes no difference on SS. Changing the order, doesn't matter. When they fix whatever broke, the sort will be back to agency priority and order. Anybody who doubts this, go look at your keywords from the buyers site. Alpha sorted. Look at edit keywords on your file on SS, different order. Now look at the original file on your computer, not the same as the SS file that you can edit. SS still arranges keywords on our pages, into a different order than upload, and buyers, different from submit our site. Anyone else get this more then every before looking at SS site? "Secure Connection Failed"
736
« on: January 31, 2017, 13:24 »
It is becoming a dump yard. You can find some "treasures" in the dump yard but it takes time ... I can't believe how many duplicates people submit too.
and Yea, it's disgusting.
Glad they fixed most of it, but not done yet. Maybe a duplicate limit would be good? I mean how many subtle variations do buyers need? The lightbulb vector group was an example of far too many. Marijuana guy is another. It makes the SS site and search look like trash.
737
« on: January 31, 2017, 13:20 »
Where did you find this link?
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
When I click on it I see the new table.
But when I click on the 'Earnings' menu I still see the old - and better - table
Is it a preview of things to come, or just an alternative way of seeing earnings?
Me too. I don't think a new table exists at all, it must be bug that makes the page load incorrectly.
Interesting how the forum here can go into a rage against a page that doesn't exist with some small temporary page direct error. Image gallery stats has long scrambled results beginning on page 52. Wish they would fix that some day.
Correct image gallery stats is buggy. The earnings had to be disabled because it didn't work. Total purchases shows files with less, ahead of files with more downloads. I never checked to see if the date sort actually worked? But attention those of you who like nit picking and details. Image Gallery Stats says on the tab in a box, BETA. Do I need to explain to everyone here what that means? Yes it's broken. It's not important. Making money and getting downloads is important. A stupid page of stats is minor. Earnings summary is fine, shows every day of the month. https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats.mhtml I don't know what page the OP found or how. It would be interesting to see where that came from, since it's not a page at all? Somebody in the big tall building screwed the code up. https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
Is it a joke or what?
Why to do better when you can do worse?
How did you find that. Page doesn't exist. I think it's another one of those, updates that isn't checked for accuracy before it goes live. I find nothing a surprise anymore when some page is broken on SS. But it's not a new feature at least.
738
« on: January 31, 2017, 13:09 »
So,
After having a very small collection of photos (<50) for about 3-4 years (generated 100$ during that time) I've decided to give microstock photography a real chance. I've started taking / uploading photos in September (5 months ago) adding 550 new photos so far (so a total portfolio of about 600 photos up to date).
Main earner is obviously Shutterstock which went from selling 4 photos in Aug to selling 42 photos in Jan. This means I'm making a littler over 10$ a month for the past 3 months (this month I've made a bit over 12$).
Other agencies I upload to are 123RF, BigStockPhoto, CanStockPhoto, DepositPhotos, Dreamstime and Fotolia. I've made about 6$ in the past 5 months in Fotolia and < 1$ in the rest of the agencies. Upload is done via StockSubmitter (mac which is quite limited).
I've also upload photos to Society6 and FineArtAmerica making one 7$ sale in Society6 over the time.
I'm quite happy with how SS is progressing, it's slow and not a lot of money but I can visibly see sales grow (and come in) every day. The rest of the microstock sites / prints are pretty much dead.
This means that at the moment I've got around 7% of my SS portfolio selling each month (by number of total photos sold vs total number of photos in portfolio). I'm not sure if this is a good measure?
It also means I'm making virtually no progress in all other sites. I'm wondering if there's anything better I can do there?
I have also just started iStock (using qhero) it's easier to upload now but the review process has been extremely slow in Jan and I've only got 80 photos or so in so far (1 sale).
SS portofolio for reference - shutterstock.com/g/guyn happy to share other portfolio links if relevant.
Thanks
G.N
Might be a good time to make some personal notes. I wish I had. Text file or spreadsheet, doesn't matter. Log earnings last year for total, since everything is growing. Log January 2017, how many files on each agency that's active. Nest January, log how many total files on each agency and how much you made for the year on each agency. You can figure RPD for each agency also, since it's your files compared to your mostly same files. You'll be able to see if maybe it's not worth your time and effort some places, or if you feel it is? But mostly you'll see how things grew in a year. Then January 2019 see how the year was, same numbers, files, total income, income by agency, RPD on agency. If someplace makes me $5 a download and I only get one a month, not sure it's worth the time? If I get 38 cents a DL and they get 10 a day, that's $100 a month, not bad. Only you can decide whether you want to feed the low earners for your hours of work and spread your work to every sub place and partner, some you'll never know where your work is being sold. Or if you want to have a few choice sites and watch your business. No matter what. Write down now, number of images, where, and have some baseline totals so you can see how the year went. Next year do the same. Try to work like a business would.
739
« on: January 30, 2017, 20:13 »
Clunky upload system, hardly any sales. Who cares about Alamy, really?
I thought they were modifying the upload system. Has that not happened yet?
Rolling update, not everybody at the same time. Seems like there are modifications to be made as things continue. But no flash, less boxes, super words and other improvements. This will be better in the long run.
740
« on: January 30, 2017, 20:08 »
I started and earlier thread but this one seem to have caught on first
http://www.microstockgroup.com/bigstock-com/another-thief-29228/msg478158/?topicseen#new
I found one of my images and reported to both BS and SS.
I was going to answer yours but here we are. I see some I recognize, none of mine on the first pages. I expect this account will start to empty or be locked very soon as the victims write to BS and SS. What always scares me is this crook has all these photos and could go to 100 other sites with them and might make some money before discovered. Sad state of Microstock.
741
« on: January 30, 2017, 16:48 »
Not just new accounts now. Looks like the roll out is well under way - check out the numerous threads on the Alamy forum for a lot of useful information on how to get to grips with the new system. Still waiting for it myself though!
Same here unless upload is different from manage section. I'll need to go read and look some more. Thanks all for the heads up.
742
« on: January 30, 2017, 16:34 »
So when is this coming live
Surprise, sometime soon but according to Getty forum reporting is not until the 20th of Feb?
That's the date they gave us in the email of 23rd November, so no surprise.
Did I get a different email? Mine said this,
"Scheduled for January 3, 2017
iStock.com contributor tools will be retired on www.istockphoto.com/xnet
Login details for the ESP Platform sent to iStockers
iStock contributor tools become available via the ESP Platform."
"For Exclusive contributors, the retirement of the current Redeemed Credits system on December 31, 2016 and replacement with the new Download Targets system on January 1, 2017 is still on schedule."
"Your download stats will no longer be available on iStock.com come the February 1 cutover."
"The move to ESP is a significant change so we would like to take some time to prepare you for the official transition on February 1, 2017"
That's not Feb. 20th on any calendar. It's January, then February. Now it's later and I don't believe what they are telling us today will be the same tomorrow. Please don't say we were warned, because we were lied to from the start.
Mine said also:
"Unification Timeline Royalty statements and payments
Now Scheduled for February 20, 2017
Royalty statement for January transactions available via Account Management in ESP.
Now Scheduled for February 25, 2017
Payments for January transactions will be reflected on the February 20 statement."
As extending dates has been perfectly standard with iS changes for several years, I had put it down to general technical incompetence rather than the deliberate malice of a lie, but who knows?
Some on msg were absolutely certain that we would not be paid for Dec this month, as they said we would be. And we were, at least I was.
Right, people were paid as always this month. Sums disappeared as they were transferred to the new system, nothing was taken. Reporting may or may not happen Feb. 20th and payments the 25th. We can agree with that and the latest updates to the promised dates. What I was quoting was what they originally told us would happen, January 1st in the emails. Which changed to Feb. 1st in later emails. Including one that came in January saying we would be notified of the latest changes in December! I have no concerns that I won't get what I'm due, or what I am owed, when they finally get the system working. It might be better working, hopefully better detailed reporting, and it doesn't change what has sold. Won't be long.
743
« on: January 29, 2017, 21:53 »
So when is this coming live
Surprise, sometime soon but according to Getty forum reporting is not until the 20th of Feb?
That's the date they gave us in the email of 23rd November, so no surprise.
Did I get a different email? Mine said this, "Scheduled for January 3, 2017 iStock.com contributor tools will be retired on www.istockphoto.com/xnet Login details for the ESP Platform sent to iStockers iStock contributor tools become available via the ESP Platform." "For Exclusive contributors, the retirement of the current Redeemed Credits system on December 31, 2016 and replacement with the new Download Targets system on January 1, 2017 is still on schedule." "Your download stats will no longer be available on iStock.com come the February 1 cutover." "The move to ESP is a significant change so we would like to take some time to prepare you for the official transition on February 1, 2017" That's not Feb. 20th on any calendar. It's January, then February. Now it's later and I don't believe what they are telling us today will be the same tomorrow. Please don't say we were warned, because we were lied to from the start.
744
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:55 »
Hey y'all,
I've been using a third-party app to track my balance on iStock and today noticed that $90 dollars has suddenly disappeared. I have no email informing me that I'm being sent a a payment and there's nothing in the payouts report. Is this anything anyone else has experienced?
Thanks
Third party apps aren't accurate from my understanding.
It's showing the same missing balance on two third-party apps, one of which is Deep Meta, endorsed and encouraged to use for keeping track of financials by iStock.
You may be getting some data, it just might not be accurate. I think you'll have to check the forum or wait till next month.
Right
745
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:54 »
So when is this coming live
Surprise, sometime soon but according to Getty forum reporting is not until the 20th of Feb? No one knows and when it does, we don't know what will be showing.
746
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:52 »
I'm an digital Illustrator (raster, no vectors) and I put a very special care on each work, so my production is slow. But in the new system the effort on search of quality is proving to be unprofitable. If the microstock agencies no longer want to offer quality, What type of client they pretend to attract. Only facebookers and bloggers?
Same here ... I'm photographer and i upload 300/400 high quality images every year ... Great income for 6 years and from July 2016 down down down ...
From 2004 to 2015 Shutterstock has 100.000 active contributors (avg 10.000 every years) ... in 2016 64000 new contributors, but perhaps 55.000 have only crappy illustration or snapshot photos ... see the "new search" ... what buyers download this low quality works ? I upload to 10 agencies an
d the worst performance in 2016 compared to 2015 is from SS.
more and more will join....in "secret country" where i live the salary medium is u know how much?
i tell you 200 dollar with current exchange...there are people working at mcdonald for example who earn120 dollar right now....so for an "*" guy,...uploading tons of photos for free and earn 300 400 dollar is still a lot of money compared to people working at mcdonald or bar or supermarket or shop.....
that's why you see so many photographer joining micro or this country...it's cheap,...cost are very low...people love being photographed for free for example, so plenty of model available for free...there are big studio who cost nothing...i pay 8 dollar hours..
so a shoot with model start from 20 to 100 dollar ....same shooting in western world cost 1000 minimum. u see the difference?
Yes I do, perfectly, make good sense.
747
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:48 »
3.25%
? Is there some more exciting news for 2017 that I missed?
748
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:35 »
Upload sRGB
749
« on: January 29, 2017, 12:58 »
15%
750
« on: January 29, 2017, 12:56 »
Come on. Istock has been 10x as bad for 10x as long and is still dragging along. SS won't be disappearing anytime soon.
They just need to get things fixed. Hopefully the real competition from Adobe will get them to up their game.
Sales were better in August and ELs have been picking up again.
Istock is a perfect example of how bad things can get. Only reason they are still limping along at all is because they have Getty behind them. Ironic that Getty destroyed them but is now (barely) propping them up.
Besides, with the continued steps of Getty to fully integrate Istock into the Borg , IS may cease to be a named separate entity within months. Aren't we still waiting for their annual. EFFyou announcement soon?
Didn't get to give this a plus the first time around. It's worth quoting. The annual announcement was much different than predicted and you are both right. Adobe should force SS to improve.
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