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726
« on: March 05, 2014, 11:02 »
I agree with the other comments. I wouldn't say it was better back in the earlier days. It was just a little easier. If I had a time machine, then I'd probably go back and build an agency. It would have been a lot easier to build a fair paying competitor back then.
727
« on: March 04, 2014, 14:41 »
Somebody unseated me for most illustrations. They must have been busy last year 18k images in a year is impressive.
I saw that number and thought it was you. Wonder who it really was...
Nope. I'm only at around 22K. The 15250 from last year looks like me. If you are right then I skipped the survey this year because it is inherently pointless with no chance to be useful at all. I think it can be useful but as it is, it isn't. So basically we agree, right?
LOL. I'm a stats geek, so I enjoy it. My operation is too strange and off the norm that I'm not sure I can extrapolate much for myself, but I still like to vote to add my little piece to the puzzle.
728
« on: March 04, 2014, 14:00 »
Didn't take the survey this year, also stopped entering monthly numbers. For me the most important question is whether or not it's best to be exclusive and getting a better understanding of that is not really helped by the survey results. Maybe some of the info is interesting but I don't see it as being very useful for making decisions. I hope next year this can be addressed if it can't be from this year's survey.
I'm not sure if you are ever going to get anything too specific that would help you make a big decision like that. It's more about general trends and seeing those with more concrete numbers and stats.
I think it shouldn't be too difficult. RPI against portfolio size for instance. Comparing what the average nonexclusive with 10,000 images makes per image to what an exclusive with 10,000 images makes would be helpful wouldn't it?
It would be interesting to see. I'm not sure if it would be any more helpful than anything else. Contributors vary so wildly that I don't think any stat would help me predict how my portfolio would perform. Other than basic generalities like this place is good or this place is bad. Even that is questionable.
729
« on: March 04, 2014, 13:20 »
Didn't take the survey this year, also stopped entering monthly numbers. For me the most important question is whether or not it's best to be exclusive and getting a better understanding of that is not really helped by the survey results. Maybe some of the info is interesting but I don't see it as being very useful for making decisions. I hope next year this can be addressed if it can't be from this year's survey.
I'm not sure if you are ever going to get anything too specific that would help you make a big decision like that. It's more about general trends and seeing those with more concrete numbers and stats.
730
« on: March 04, 2014, 12:05 »
Somebody unseated me for most illustrations. They must have been busy last year 18k images in a year is impressive.
This is probably the most interesting and scary stat:
What percentage of income came from your top grossing site?
Average: 67.2% {52.3%}
Median: 53% {50%}
731
« on: March 03, 2014, 15:52 »
Because it's bad enough getting paid so little in the first place in the world of microstock.
What kind of foolishness would it be to accept even lower rates?
Are you saying that you'd be happy to be paid less for your work? 
Yep, totally stoked! Pay us less. That's what I've been preaching for the last few years.  Seriously though, I'm done complaining and fighting. It hasn't done me much good. If there is going to be a real revolution, then give me a call. Otherwise, I'm just going to collect my paycheck.
732
« on: March 03, 2014, 13:27 »
I wonder if SS throttles customers. They clearly wouldn't want you downloading your full amount.
733
« on: March 03, 2014, 12:45 »
Then, I'd wish I'd taken that deal from Graphicstock.
734
« on: March 03, 2014, 12:37 »
My earnings per DL have been going steadily upward at SS and steadily downward at iS, until recently SS surpassed iS in the amount I earn per DL. If SS went only to 25 subs, my earnings there would be cut by more than 50%. I only submit to those two, and SS makes up 75% of my stock earnings. So that would mean about a 40% drop in overall earnings for me. 
I guess then I'd start submitting to more sites and working harder on my own site.
I think your math is a little off. The reduction from $.38 to $.25 is a little over 34%, so you can't be any more than that. But at 34%, that would mean you sold all subs and only made money at SS. Still though, I'm sure it would hit your earnings more than 10%. You would probably be closer to 15%. None of it would be good.
I would have lost 16.7%, its way more than any other agency
(last month numbers)
Yeah taking both down (subs and other sales) makes it a lot uglier. I could see people folding up shop if they lose closer to 20%.
735
« on: March 03, 2014, 11:28 »
My bad, I thought we were just talking about subs.
736
« on: March 03, 2014, 11:13 »
My earnings per DL have been going steadily upward at SS and steadily downward at iS, until recently SS surpassed iS in the amount I earn per DL. If SS went only to 25 subs, my earnings there would be cut by more than 50%. I only submit to those two, and SS makes up 75% of my stock earnings. So that would mean about a 40% drop in overall earnings for me.
I guess then I'd start submitting to more sites and working harder on my own site.
I think your math is a little off. The reduction from $.38 to $.25 is a little over 34%, so you can't be any more than that. But at 34%, that would mean you sold all subs and only made money at SS. Still though, I'm sure it would hit your earnings more than 10%. You would probably be closer to 15%. None of it would be good.
737
« on: March 03, 2014, 09:59 »
Would you quit?
Yes because it wouldn't be worth the effort
Would you really lose that much? I'm thinking most people wouldn't lose more than 10% of their total income. My assumption for worst case scenario is that subs are about 50% of SS earnings and SS is about 50% of total earnings. The difference between $.25 and $.38 would end up costing you around 10%. Not that 10% is a small number though. That would be like losing a solid earning agency. I could be wrong though. If you are losing more, feel free to share. My numbers only came out to about 2-3% and like I pointed out before it was less than what they took when they modified the affiliate program which was closer to 5% total income.
738
« on: March 02, 2014, 15:23 »
Honestly, I lost more per month on the affiliate changes than I would on this hypothetical change. It wouldn't be pleasant at all, but it doesn't seem like a game changer for me either. Unless, it really did cause a bunch of contributors to pack up shop. Not that I'm looking to benefit from other people's suffering, but it could be a side effect.
739
« on: March 01, 2014, 17:52 »
I guess the real question is should comps be considered a use? You technically are using them to sell something to a client and make money. Is it really any different than making a Powerpoint presentation. At the end of the day, I'm sure nothing will change because they are used to getting comps for free, but it seems like they probably should be charged.
740
« on: March 01, 2014, 16:53 »
Nothing. I'd just continue doing what I do.
741
« on: March 01, 2014, 14:14 »
Maybe I`m dense but I honestly thought you were asking contributors what their average monthly income from those sites was. Now I am not sure what you mean. Please clarify?
I think he means that he wants the companies to provide monthly stats for his earnings. I know Yay doesn't do that (at least not after the month ends), but I've never been on the other two sites.
742
« on: February 27, 2014, 13:38 »
A cult in my belief is a gathering of people who do not accept challenges to the belief.
It's kind of hard to stop people from believing in themselves. If that is a cult, then I guess I was in that cult before I had a Symbio site. We all know Symbiostock isn't perfect. It is open source after all. It's supposed to be a work in progress that anybody can contribute to. You have to start somewhere though.
743
« on: February 27, 2014, 11:56 »
Isnt there a bit of witchhunting going on here and doesnt it smell of cult?
Sym had problems right from the start, one of them was the lack of self critique, very obvious now.
Not to mention a few others, that I wont mention now, but did in the past.
Now prove the cult thing true and give me some minuses, since I speak against the true belief.
I don't get the cult thing. I'm just trying to make some money and trying something new. Maybe, I didn't get my robe, sneakers and Kool-Aid when I opened my site.
744
« on: February 27, 2014, 11:23 »
Borked. I've never hear that. That brings new meaning to this...
745
« on: February 26, 2014, 16:10 »
Does anyone think that percentage has increased?
Not if you look at my numbers, but I assume there are a lot more illustrations on the site every year as it becomes a more competitive medium. They seem less picky about what they accept still though. That may change at some point.
746
« on: February 25, 2014, 13:26 »
As you know I've been hired to do a plugin for VAT Tax. After that I will maintain Symbiostock with every Wordpress release.
That's all I would really ask is that the project is at least maintained. The rest is really up to us as individual sites and a community to drive traffic to our sites and get sales. To be honest, that's all I ever expected.
747
« on: February 22, 2014, 12:27 »
no i am not asking anyone to quit stock altogether, but what i am suggesting is that we all have choices of sustainability. i made mine, i will not support subscription sites of any sort. i am in this for the long term, not a quick buck. where do you stand?
Last time I checked, iStock was a subscription site. That's why I left. I didn't want to be part of it. If everybody went exclusive or all the independents left, then guess where Thinkstock's content is going to come from. Just because you're insulated doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Like I said, I love the idea of the death of subs, but there is no REAL escape plan. Believe me. I've tried (even had modest success). But, to eliminate them altogether would require some new big player to enter the market. Even then, it would be tough.
748
« on: February 22, 2014, 11:43 »
we need to wake up, and it starts by never supporting a subscription site of any sort. this is the kiss of death for all of us.
I'm all for that (I wish it could happen), but nothing really exist like that for the vast majority of contributors. So, you are really just asking people to quit stock altogether.
749
« on: February 22, 2014, 09:51 »
mark my words on this, my money says in 10 years or less of this feeding frenzy, most of us won't be making a living from stock photography, but the agencies will be still profitable in every way. just sayin.
I tend to agree, it does seem like it has to hit some critical density at some point. Although if contributors start failing to make money, I'm not sure if the companies will still be successful. That said, I'm always surprised when it all keeps chugging along in a fairly healthy manner.
750
« on: February 21, 2014, 21:21 »
That's a good point. I'm sure they will want to know what all the money was spent on.
Pesky contributors?
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