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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 24, 2021, 18:22 »

They really don't have to answer. But then a forum is useless. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if they cancel it. Of course without explanation.

I believe that you have to lower your expectations.

There are 2 main questions people expect answers for:
1. Why was my photo rejected.
2. Why was the price structure changed.

1. There are way too many submissions to be dealt individually.
Doing that would imply that contributors who figured out what it takes to avoid rejctions would have to wait way too much, while the least knowledgeble get their education. I am clearly against this, if my opinion matters.

2. You will never get a true answer or details about such strategic financial decisions, about their risk vs reward decisions, about their moves against competitors. Some of these decisions might be bad, but each company must also be free to dig its own grave.
And that's not specific to SS nor to this industry.

So manage your expectations, work around these annoyances, as long as this business still makes sense for you.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 24, 2021, 08:30 »
But that still gives me the right to grumble.

Of course, you have the right to grumble! Grumble away!

At the same time SS has the right to grumble back and stop you from grumbling too loud, in their house, on their money.

Grumble in their house at your own risk, but better grumble here, on Leaf's money.

It's simple, really  ;)


It would be nice if they grumbled back
I try to grumble in a constructive way. (otherwise they are right) When my students (now retired) did that to me, I always explained and sometimes I even agreed with them. I even expected that they would tell me if they thought something wasn't right.
Shutterstock never answers. For example, I emailed them when someone had problems with stolen photos. Not even an answer came back. Example: https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/101367-stolen-logos-in-shutterstock/?tab=comments#comment-1871746

My reply was in relation to this statement:

"the sad part is that we are severely censored on the forum. Say anything they don't like any your banished!"

Did they censor or ban you for your "constructive" grumbling? I don't think so.

What I said is that they have the right to stop people from "grumbling too loud", in other words badmouthing, defaming, or even insulting the company, in their house, and on their dime, no matter how justified one may think that the "loud grumbling" is.

The fact they don't respond to questions is a different topic, but I don't think they are obliged to do it in any way. Again, if you don't like it, just leave! It's that simple!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 24, 2021, 06:59 »
But that still gives me the right to grumble.

Of course, you have the right to grumble! Grumble away!

At the same time SS has the right to grumble back and stop you from grumbling too loud, in their house, on their money.

Grumble in their house at your own risk, but better grumble here, on Leaf's money.

It's simple, really  ;)

729
Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 23, 2021, 22:52 »
they made one too many changes and I walked.

Respect! Everything else is just noise.

730
Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 23, 2021, 17:29 »
the sad part is that we are severely censored on the forum. Say anything they don't like any your banished!

SS is a private company and they have the right to control what's being shouted in their home. I am sure that you too would not tolerate being insulted in your own home.

They invited us in and we helped build that house.

Nah.
That's no different than any other contract in the business world between independent entities.

When you freely sign that contract, you didn't sign it to build their house, but to build yours. You never thought about helping SS build some house, you only thought of your own interest.

Or, if you want, you helped build their house as much as they helped build yours.  ;)

Because when it's not convenient to you anymore, you can simply walk away. As long as you stay, it means SS is helping you build your own house.  :P

but only one side keeps changing the contract

And each time you had the option to walk away.

If you didn't, it means that you are still OK with the contract.
In @Noedelhap words, SS is still helping you build your house. 😉

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 23, 2021, 15:18 »
the sad part is that we are severely censored on the forum. Say anything they don't like any your banished!

SS is a private company and they have the right to control what's being shouted in their home. I am sure that you too would not tolerate being insulted in your own home.

They invited us in and we helped build that house.

Nah.
That's no different than any other contract in the business world between independent entities.

When you freely sign that contract, you didn't sign it to build their house, but to build yours. You never thought about helping SS build some house, you only thought of your own interest.

Or, if you want, you helped build their house as much as they helped build yours.  ;)

Because when it's not convenient to you anymore, you can simply walk away. As long as you stay, it means SS is helping you build your own house.  :P

732
Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor forum deceased?
« on: September 23, 2021, 08:49 »
the sad part is that we are severely censored on the forum. Say anything they don't like any your banished!

SS is a private company and they have the right to control what's being shouted in their home. I am sure that you too would not tolerate being insulted in your own home.
If you don't like it move elsewhere. It's that simple.
Just to be clear, I am not defending them, I am defending a principle.

Having said that bad people have been also banned from this forum.
That's normal, welcome, and needed to keep this place as clean as possible of abusers and extreme toxicity.

733
Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock put ad banner in the Dashboard
« on: September 21, 2021, 16:26 »
Which ad banner? I use adblocker and don't see anything  ;D

Something like this one, seen today:

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DepositPhotos / Re: Deposit Photos Revenue Share
« on: September 15, 2021, 14:58 »
 ::)
I immediately deleted the email, to make sure I'll never accidentally click on that button.

735
Pond5 / Re: So has anybody sold any images on Pond5?
« on: September 10, 2021, 07:15 »
once again, it's hard to interpret these 'facts' without knowing portfolio size & # of views

The fact is that this isn't the answer to the question asked in the title of this thread  :D

The answer to the OP's question is "YES".

This fact is really very easy to interpret, IMHO  ;D

or No as well  8)
Actually no. NO is wrong.
"Has anybody sold any images?"

The answer is YES. Because there is at least one person (me) who sold at least one image.
So, YES: somebody sold an image on P5. :P

;D

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Pond5 / Re: So has anybody sold any images on Pond5?
« on: September 09, 2021, 17:47 »
once again, it's hard to interpret these 'facts' without knowing portfolio size & # of views

The fact is that this isn't the answer to the question asked in the title of this thread  :D

The answer to the OP's question is "YES".

This fact is really very easy to interpret, IMHO  ;D

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Pond5 / Re: So has anybody sold any images on Pond5?
« on: September 09, 2021, 14:47 »
I had 7 sales in 2021 (one file was sold twice, first time $10, second time $20), 4 sales in 2020, same in 2019, but I haven't uploaded anything in probably two years. I'm not sure it's worth the time. I don't think, uploading more would produce more sales. It's more a random thing.

Stocksubmitter does it for me, so the additional effort is zero.

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Pond5 / Re: So has anybody sold any images on Pond5?
« on: September 09, 2021, 12:46 »
I didn't send up THAT many but not a single sale. So just deleted account.

Photo sales on P5 are not frequent, but they do happen: I had 18 of them in 2021, 26 in 2020, etc...

739
Hey Mat, is this a one time thing or will you ask for more later? I missed it!

Are you asking about the window of time to nominate images to be eligible for the Free collection? If so, I am not aware of any upcoming nomination openings.

-Mat

Thank You, God!
Enough damage already!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Commitment to Diversity and Inclusion
« on: September 03, 2021, 09:55 »
All these things in the USA are hilarious.

I don't know how you can even talk.

We use sign language now.

I submitted my middle finger a few years back and it was rejected  :(


Then maybe you should check the quality of your middle finger.  🖕
Your middle finger must be crisp and sharp, like my wife's, which earned me a few bucks throughout the years.  🖕

Besides my wife's, there are over 100k middle fingers for sale on SS  🖕

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/middle+finger


741


Perhaps! What is real is the $ now and whatever is in the future is purely hypothetical :)


 ::)

A few words of wisdom that might come in handy, for your future blogs:  ;D

You will make better decisions once you begin thinking long-term rather than short-term.

"Ignoring the facts for short-term gain will almost always bring long-term pain"

"You can't build long-term future, with short term thinking"

"It is human nature to seek instant gratification and empty pleasures even when we know it is wrong."

etc, etc, etc...  :-*



742

playing the devil's advocate here--- the few, low selling, images that were selected could lure in a new buyer that will then check out the rest of my portfolio.

That's wishful thinking.

In reality, if someone is lured by free photos, that person is not a "buyer" anymore, but a "free(down)loader".

It's more much more likely that a free(down)loader will rather look for more free downloads from others, instead of buying your stuff.  ;)

743

...
Of course, Adobe believes in their sales growth hypothesis.

I am challenging that.

Existing Adobe customers will prefer free and stop buying as they would, in normal circumstances. A free collection will not stimulate more sales from existing customers. On the contrary.

your 'challenge' is counterfactual - (transaltion:you are wrong ) -- free collections have NOT cut into other sales,  as reported by those who actually have some real-life data - your unsupported guess about what will or wont work & your 'understanding' of buyers' habits is nonsense --  aka WAG!

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...customers who are rushing to take advantage of free photos, it is unlikely that they will buy much more, when their motivation was to get free stuff, in the first place....

so - someone who was never going to buy any images STILL isnt buying any images - how does that affect my bottom line?
And yet, you brought no counter-argument.
Just saying "you are wrong" means nothing.  ::)
Same as showing or not showing your port: it adds nothing to this discussion.

You also misunderstood the customer migration hypothesis. Those who migrate are deal chasers, people who may have purchased some stuff from other agencies, but they are migrating now only because this new free stuff is enough for their needs. :-\

744
Logic. It wouldn't be logical for Adobe to pay contributors 2,5 milion dollars, if there wasn't any financial gains in the long term. Financial gains, I mean, more customers in the future, more sales, more money for contributors also. According to Mat, when they first run experiment with only selected number of contributors, it went well, that's why they did it again with larger number of contributors.

Now, should I believe your logic, or Mat's logic, who has first hand knowledge about this.

And if this means customers migrating from SS and iS to Adobe, I'm perfectly fine with it. I prefer getting $0,36  for sub  sale than $0,10 or $0,02.
Of course, Adobe believes in their sales growth hypothesis.

I am challenging that.

Existing Adobe customers will prefer free and stop buying as they would, in normal circumstances. A free collection will not stimulate more sales from existing customers. On the contrary.

While Adobe might see a customer migration from other agencies, customers who are rushing to take advantage of free photos, it is unlikely that they will buy much more, when their motivation was to get free stuff, in the first place.
So, customers moving over from SS will not give you $0.36, but rather something very close to $0.

Let's say that some customers who migrated from SS will buy some more stuff and Adobe might see some additional income. Do you think that their competitors will sit on their hands looking at how Adobe is draining their customer base?
It's only a matter of time before they will react with something similar, returning Adobe to square one and closing this vicious circle.
And then, there will be enough free stuff on the market to satisfy a big part of the global demand.
And then sales will also vanish for Adobe. Somebody might even get fired for betting millions on a losing horse.

745

and again, meaningless comment from someone who won't link to any actual portfolio

Actually the fact that you do link your portfolio, raises doubts about your freedom to tell it as it is, given the known history of reprisals against contributors who criticized certain agencies.
So going out of your way in praising an agency while making your details known is NOT helping your credibility. On the contrary! 😉

ROFLMAO!!!!  where did you study logic?

Instead of internet interjections, argue logically, if you believe in logic, ROFLMAO (!!!!).

As I understand, you nominated photos for free too.
Yes. I had a few selected when the program was announced, and now I have two free photos that might kill some of your sales, indeed  ;). And I got $10 for them, $10 Adobe will soon regret.

But your quote is not about that. It's about discrediting people who chose to remain anonymous to protect their privacy.

A debate is about ideas, not about persons, their ports or their looks. A hypothesis can be right or wrong in itself, and it has nothing to do with how tall or heavy is the person who expressed it.

Believing that your logic is more valuable, because you show your port is illogical.  ;)

746

and again, meaningless comment from someone who won't link to any actual portfolio

Actually the fact that you do link your portfolio, raises doubts about your freedom to tell it as it is, given the known history of reprisals against contributors who criticized certain agencies.
So going out of your way in praising an agency while making your details known is NOT helping your credibility. On the contrary! 😉

ROFLMAO!!!!  where did you study logic?

Instead of internet interjections, argue logically, if you believe in logic, ROFLMAO (!!!!).

747

and again, meaningless comment from someone who won't link to any actual portfolio

Actually the fact that you do link your portfolio, raises doubts about your freedom to tell it as it is, given the known history of reprisals against contributors who criticized certain agencies.
So going out of your way in praising an agency while making your details known is NOT helping your credibility. On the contrary! 😉

748
Wow you give your image for free !!! For those not happy about shutterstock new price if you give image for 5 $ you are total idiot. You kill the market forevor!!! sale drop this month about that.

It's true that SS sales are way down. I didn't make the connection, because it's probably too soon for that. But it's not impossible to see some effects already.
Anyway, it's very likely that sales on other sites will also dry out, because of these good-quality free alternatives offered by AS.

Sooner than later similar free collections will pop up everywhere, hitting back hard at AS, and closing this vicious circle.

But hey... enjoy your precious $5, Carpe Diem, be a hero and keep playing in the Titanic orchestra as much as you can!  :P

749

Some of my nominated images made me hundreds of dollars in the last 12 months on the other sites despite they are not selling well on Adobe. If they are offered for free I'm sure I will lose much more than $5.
 

This may be too obvious but why would anyone nominate an image that earns hundreds of dollars on other sites. Don't do that.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, by nominated I meant eligible for free collection images. I didn't nominated them and will never give them for free download.

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cascoly, I partly understand you. I just made a comparison of my portfolio on DT and your portfolio on DT. We both registered in 2006 and since then your Downloads per image = 0.30, mine Downloads per image = 8.21. You probably don't value your images as I value mine.

i include links to my portfolios - why dont you?
since you don't have the courtesy to show a link to your portfolio we don't know your actual earnings.
 DL/image is worthless as a metric anyway - more important is actual income - 1000 images @ $1 each is a better return than 100 images @$8 each
Eight years ago I decided to stop using my original profile on MSG and to go anonymous. If you don't know why, ask all those punished contributors who were criticizing the agencies. That's the only reason I can't show my portfolio. And don't worry I'm not talking about hundreds of images they are thousands, now make the calculation again.

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I also noticed images with hundreds of sales on Adobe alone among the nominated which just have less than 4 sales in the last year. They are not time sensitive, so if Adobe make some changes in the search algorithm there's a chance of lots of future sales. I will lose this opportunity if I accept the offer.
always blame the agency when your images don't sell!
I don't blame the agency at all, actually Adobe is my best selling site and BTW not so long time ago I was one of the Recent top sellers of the week. I just gave an example about images with many sales in the past who are eligible for free collection.

I agree with all you said.
That's why I also keep myself as anonymous as possible.
And I like Adobe. They are a strong second best for me.

I just believe that they made a mistake with this free collection.
A mistake that will not only impact our revenue, but theirs too.

750
Hi all,

I'm still pretty new to the forum. Have only 10 posts.
Yesterday I saw that 2 post of another user disappeared in a thread I opened. I am now having a conversation there with just me.
The thread does show 5 posts from the outside, but when I go into the thread I only see 3 posts, all three from myself.

Also, yesterday a post of mine was not published in another thread.

I am a bit irritated. Is there an explanation for these strange occurrences?

When you are new, someone needs to approve your first post(s). This may take a few hours, maybe a day or so. This is meant to prevent spamming.

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