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Messages - Jo Ann Snover

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Wowzers!

Ditto!  This is really big news!  

And good news IMO.  If things on istock go south with this new photos.com/jupiter deal there may be some exclusives looking for a new home... :)

And some of the bad taste in my mouth over the past behavior of FT management would certainly be assuaged somewhat by Patrick being there - not eliminated, but I'd feel a ton more comfortable...

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In some ways I really feel for the iStock admins.  I don't believe for a second they are on board with Getty's plan.  They are doing their jobs, doing their best to defend the indefensible.  I don't envy their position.

Dan, this is my thought too.  Most of istock's admins have been there for a long time and put their heart and soul into making it what it is today.  This has got to be devastating for them. 

I am guessing they secretly hope contributors raise such hell that this can't be implemented, or at least has to be drastically improved to be fairer to contributors.

I would guess that this isn't what the Calgary folks wanted either. However, even if we manage to stall or change this proposal, how could things return to "normal"? We'll all know that Getty is just waiting to find another way to get the commission down. I'd be looking over my shoulder (and I knew Getty had a truly abysmal track record of contributor relations, but I didn't think they'd try to dismantle the IS system quite so soon).

IMO the folks that think this will bring business to IS are being naive. I still haven't heard anything rational about why the experience over the last year with StockXpert and the Jupiter properties would not play out again in the same way.

While this is particularly calamitous for IS exclusives, I think this is very bad news across the board as I don't expect the more generous 30 cents/30% commissions for StockXpert contributors to  continue unchanged.

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I am extremely concerned about the ongoing developments at StockXpert/Photo.com/JUI and I wonder whether it is finally becoming time to pull my portfolio there...

2) Photos.com Plus/Jupiter Images Unlimited. In my view the aggressive marketing at these agencies represent the most serious threat to microstockers' income we have ever faced. Subscriptions at both of these sites, especially annual packages, undercut all the other agencies we enjoy supporting. I'm increasingly of the mind that we should not be supporting these two agencies at all.

3) Unsustainable. The cheapest subscription packages are almost certainly losing JIU/Photo.com money at the current payout of 30c. They might be happy to fund a loss-leader initially but eventually something will have to change. Either they're going to have to increase prices or reduce our royalties. Judging by the 3c royalties being offered to IS exclusives I think we know which is the more likely...

There is a real danger that JIU/Photos.com will damage the sustainability of other fairer agencies (if they haven't already) or the other agencies will have to act likewise in order to compete. Either way we stand to lose __ big time.

This interests me as I begin to flesh out my own "plan B" - which sites to upload to if I have to stop being exclusive at iStock (I was an independent for nearly 4 years until last August).

 One of the reasons I switched to exclusive was concerns about various predatory (to contributor) moves and a belief/hope that I was moving to a site that was in it for the long haul. Watching Getty try to go after SS - and I think SS realizes this if you look at the marketing program they announced yesterday - and thinking that if they were to succeed, that replaces higher royalties with much lower ones for all of us.

I did have my porfolio at StockXpert, but I'm not sure putting it back there makes any sense as I'm fairly certain that if Getty succeeds in pushing through this grab for IS content, the next thing is that they'll change the StockXpert contributor deal as well.

The argument that if you sell subs one place you should do so everywhere doesn't make sense to me - it's about monthly income over time and which sites can deliver it. I gather SS has had a few ups and downs lately, but possibly this marketing push will avoid them becoming a casualty of a rush to the former Jupiter properties.

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Ok... Let's find some nice independent agency which cares about authors!

There's already a few of them.  But they don't sell images worth a darn, so what's the point?

they don't have the clout without all your images. any one of them could, if a significant number of dissatisfied exclusives and non moved their port to them.
True, but some of us tried Gimmestock and Albumo and PhotoShelter - Lucky Oliver anyone? Putting images on a site isn't enough.

You need not only a site, but some credible marketing plan to get buyers to the site. Without that, fairness to contributors isn't really more than a nice principle.

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Anyone who intends to opt out of the iStock/Getty plan to put content on Jupiter Images properties at low royalties, might like to change their iStock avatar to show that. You'll see a lot of red floating around the IS forums right now...

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