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Messages - Sean Locke Photography

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock and keywords
« on: November 24, 2008, 10:44 »
Agree with loop.  There certainly isn't any copyspace here.  Not particularly joyful, etc...

This is why people who complain about keywords need to post an image to show their case.

Sean, I forgot to mention that I don't do keywording by myself anymore and outsorce it to wordsforimages.com, which is a professional service working accordingly to Getty guidelines and is managed by Shannon Routzahn, who did keywording for superstock for about 8 years....
I don't think professionals do keyword spamming for their clients!!  ;)

Well, then, if you're submitting to Getty, you're all set.  Unfortunately, your service doesn't really appear to be within iStock standards, as you've seen.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock and keywords
« on: November 24, 2008, 08:11 »
Hi Sean!

Yes I know Getty has an in-house keywording team. Wouldnt be a bad idea though, with 4 mill images in stock if IS would consider working on the same lines. Sure, wages have to be paid etc but in the long run it would save time and money plus complete disasters as far as spamming.

Maybe, but that isn't where we are now, which is why I think concepts need to be tight.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock and keywords
« on: November 24, 2008, 07:19 »
Maybe because Getty keywording is done by a small in house staff who know what they are doing, and iStock is keyworded by 50,000 contributors around the world who don't all speak English?

vikavalter, you may want to post that in the keywording forum for comments. 

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I agree Leaf.  I'm always hand held in the studio.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: 10 to 60 in six images
« on: November 24, 2008, 06:30 »
Good job on the 10 year old one.  That looks realistic.  The last one looks pretty fake, imo. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock and keywords
« on: November 24, 2008, 06:28 »
Agree with loop.  There certainly isn't any copyspace here.  Not particularly joyful, etc...

This is why people who complain about keywords need to post an image to show their case.

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123RF / Re: Poor Lighting/Composition getting out of hand
« on: November 23, 2008, 21:16 »
I'd suggest the lemon end up either more screen left (by half) (my preference) or more to the right.  Either way to provide more copy space.  It would also allow the sun to show off more.  I'm not sure if you intentionally composed it that way to have the sun peek over.  The sun also looks a bit greyish.  Maybe that's the lighting rejection.  I also get the impression the horizon isn't straight.  If you drop a ruler from the top of the darkest bit of horizon, on the right side, you still have pink beneath.

Just some thoughts.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 23, 2008, 06:57 »
Getty forums do not really exist. I belong to a Macro group but it is not part of the Getty company it is our own Listserv. The community thing is all because of you guys and Micro and you should work very hard to hold on to this effort. One of the things that attracted me to Micro was the community feel and all the support from other photographers. You won't find that in Macro.

Best,
AVAVA

Amen!

Don't you think this is the reason your traditional profits have dropped?  Communities of photographers encouraging each other to shoot and upload?

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Alamy.com / Re: Yuri Arcurs selling same photos RF and licensed.
« on: November 23, 2008, 06:55 »
"immediately"

So, is the delay on Alamy's side 16 days later?  They seem to be somewhat unresponsive at times.  Have you sold any of these images RM since they were put up?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: PDN Article
« on: November 22, 2008, 16:51 »
I use the word " haters " to speak of the people that attack others without any merit or real data I don't think you hate him.

Then can we stop the term using?  I feel like I'm at an Amway meeting or something.  Or is that "dream stealer"?  I can't remember.  Anyways, it's a loaded phrase.

Also, I'm curious as to what "photographer needs" you're discussing with a microstock site, when you're relatively new to the microstock game.  So, be sure to let us know what transpires.

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BTW, did you read this thread from a while back?
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=74099&page=1

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General Stock Discussion / Re: PDN Article
« on: November 22, 2008, 05:23 »
I am meeting with one tomorrow here in Seattle while he is in town to discuss their company from a photographers view point. There is a lot that people do that you will never know about.

Be sure to let us know what happens in the discussion.  Then there won't be so much that people do that we don't know about.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Five days without a sale
« on: November 22, 2008, 05:13 »
Before Istocks building of this new contract photographers could sell their work ( as long as it was a different shoot and theme ) with any RF company they wanted giving them more strength in their own companies diversity. Now with the Istock contract you have to put all your work under one roof making it more limiting than ever before for photographers security.

There is no "new" contract.  Exclusivity has been the same since it was introduced in 2005.

You can still sell your work with any RF company you want to get all the strength you want in your own company.  You just can't be exclusive.  No one is making anyone be exclusive.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: PDN Article
« on: November 21, 2008, 22:04 »
But that statement has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read about microstock. Ron, Yuri, and the rest of the top volume shooters could not care less about that community, and rightfully so. It's their choice. What arrogance to think that the his community can have such influence over the business, especially over how good or bad the volume shooters do.

I don't think that's especially what he's saying.  By not participating, as notably some of these high-flyers do, they miss out on tips and other ways to be successful, on a certain site.  Which is great.  Also, as far as iStock is concerned, everyone here seems to think independents are disadvantaged in the best match sort, and these factories certainly aren't going to go exclusive and join that community, so they lose out even more.  Which is great. :)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: PDN Article
« on: November 21, 2008, 14:25 »
Quote
Microstock is usually RF (except some agencies tht accept editorial);

Do not confuse Royalty Free/Rights Managed with an commercial/editorial license.  You can have editorial RF, and that's what the micros have.

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Off Topic / Re: Sticks and Stones...
« on: November 21, 2008, 14:04 »
Really, you're going to get banned here, too, Shank?

There is some sense in this world.

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General Stock Discussion / PDN Article
« on: November 21, 2008, 06:18 »
I don't know if anyone saw this article on the group of contributors that are micro "factories".

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/content_display/features/featured-in-print/e3i0731a97427122625320ef0cf0d1d4849

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Alamy.com / Re: Yuri Arcurs selling same photos RF and licensed.
« on: November 21, 2008, 06:10 »
Perhaps "I'm not taking them down"?  They're still there.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 20, 2008, 15:15 »
Oh come on azure, you know that isn't true.  There is plenty of bitching and griping.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 20, 2008, 08:35 »
hi AVAVA,

Can you (or any one else with macro stock knowledge) may give us a tip on how one (without IS exclusiveness) can approach the macro market and try to go up the ladder?

Thanks a lot
Noam

Go to contributors.gettyimages.com and apply?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Too Artistic? More Random Rejections
« on: November 19, 2008, 22:47 »
I would ask myself: How much potential do they have as micro? Would RM be more interesting?
Yeah i agree nice shots but i doubt you will sell any significant volume at the micros - wasted!

Totally agree.  Hot images, but they won't sell that much.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 19, 2008, 20:37 »
Hey, I forgot Alamy distributes Photodisc.  Check me out on Alamy : AAD09W :)

Sean, have you sold anything through Alamy? And are the distributors the cause of the lower sales amounts?

Just turned Silver and ready-to-go with a D300   ;D

No way to know, as far as I can tell....

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 19, 2008, 16:51 »
Look, they just don't want similars on both places - same location, same model, same theme.  Different models in different stores, fine.  Same model in same store, likely bad.

No, rejects are not passed back to iStock anymore.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 19, 2008, 16:37 »
Hey, I forgot Alamy distributes Photodisc.  Check me out on Alamy : AAD09W :)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silver Exclusives invited to Getty Images
« on: November 18, 2008, 22:58 »
Hi All,

 I to would love to here from the exclusives who have ventured into this with Getty. What kind of percentage do they offer. Is it the same as your Micro percentage or different. Do they make the edits and do you find them tight or loose. Is the upload easy compared to Micro. How are your sales per image compared to your Micro work. Do you send them your very best work or possibly even do shoots specifically for the Macro collections. Any info would be very helpful.

Thanks,
AVAVA

It's the same as anyone else contributing to the Getty Photodisc collection.  Nothing special for us.

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