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I've got 2400 images uploaded during a free month trial of the Pro membership. I have sold one image in 2020 - and received $0.42 from Getty. Although when researching this answer, I noticed that I had 485 images accepted for licensing and 1915 declined - mainly due to low commercial value. One of those was my best selling coronavirus shot that has made $950 on other sites in the past 4 months or so. So my advice would be - don't waste your time.

Steve

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Photo4me--Good or bad?
« on: July 28, 2020, 09:39 »
Yes, although each time you get a sale, you tend to get a swarm of (It's exceptional, I Love it) so I think that probably helps with pushing that image higher. They sell a lot of images of old world war 2 fighter planes in the skies. Probably people like those on their wall.

I don't ever go to the site except to look at my occasional sales so it isn't necessary to spend a lot of time liking other images. Although you perhaps need to do that to get started these days?

steve

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This is what they said about the change to contributor payouts:

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Cost of Revenue. Cost of revenue decreased by $4.7 million, or 7% to $63.8 million in the three months ended June 30, 2020 compared to the same period in 2019, due to lower royalty expense, content procurement costs and depreciation and amortization expense, partially offset by higher costs associated with website hosting, hardware and software licenses as well as increased credit card fees. The reduction in royalty expenses was driven by the 6% decline in paid downloads due to the impact of COVID-19 as well as a change in the way we remunerate contributors. We expect that our cost of revenue will fluctuate in line with changes in revenue and paid downloads.

So even though this only impacted one month of the quarter, they did show a significant drop in the cost of their revenue. I believe the annual report will spell out the components of the cost of revenue more clearly and you will be able to see how payments to contributors have changed. So I think it is clear they are paying out less and they have also tied that cost more clearly to revenue than it was with the old scheme. They are not going to go back on this, in my view.

Steve

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Photo4me--Good or bad?
« on: July 28, 2020, 09:15 »
All of my sales (about 11 so far) have all been of the UK. 9 of them are the same photo of the beach (which I think shows that once you have sold an image it tends to rank higher) and a glance at the new sold images across the site seems to show a preponderance of UK locations:


Steve

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Photo4me--Good or bad?
« on: July 27, 2020, 14:48 »
Thanks Oscar!

Steve

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Photo4me--Good or bad?
« on: July 27, 2020, 09:11 »
I had 2 years with no sales, but then have sold 4 prints in the past 2 months. it always tends to be the same print (of a beach sunset in England) and I think their sales are often very UK based (ie places in the UK)

Steve

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And, of course, you can always read two of the honest books on how to get started in stock photography!  ;)

You might find a link somewhere here....

Steve

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Stretch the memory banks - Dan Padavona with Warmpicture back in 2012....

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I wrote my potted history of the Symbiostock story on my blog: https://backyardsilver.com/do-self-hosted-stock-photo-sites-ever-work/

Since then, my site crashed with multiple errors in the main database and it just was not worth the effort to fix it, so I closed it down. I've since moved my "personal" site to the paid offering from Picfair. Basically you can create a version of the images you have uploaded to their agency in your own design (out of a few choices), create albums, create a landing page etc. and they handle the sales of the image with no commission. I think it cost $29 or so for the year in a special offer.

So if you want somewhere to send people to see just your images and search your portfolio it works for that. I moved my old URL to it and so each page says https://www.backyardstockphotos.com/

Steve

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I'm almost certain I know the answer - no, it doesn't delete them

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Hi Jacob

Very nice looking site and some great images. The key question for me is whether you sell enough imagery to make it worthwhile effort. I had my own sites in the past, and they have worked pretty well, but I never covered the cost of running them, never mind the effort to put them into place.

Steve

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For those not deeply involved in the history of Symbiostock, there were two very different versions - one that was heavily developed and influenced by the group here and then a later version that was much more hands-off - the developer approached it more as a business. That version is still going strong and I see, from their forum, that they can now host the application on Amazon's cloud which might overcome some of the cost and performance issues of hosting. I wrote a history of my adventures with self hosting and symbiostock which is here on my blog:

https://backyardsilver.com/do-self-hosted-stock-photo-sites-ever-work/

Steve

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Shutterstock.com / Re: LAWYERS, CLASS ACTION, NAOMI KLEIN
« on: June 19, 2020, 11:04 »
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Are you an attorney in the U.S.? Is anyone here? I'd be curious to hear from an attorney. Otherwise we're all just speculating.

I know, but it is so much fun and much better than actually creating some new images... Keep it up!

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Symbiostock / Re: People Still Using SymbioStock?
« on: June 15, 2020, 13:27 »
Can you show us a link to your Symbiostock site? I sort of wonder if you are here to promote an alternative wordpress plugin?

Steve

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Boycott Shutterstock
« on: June 15, 2020, 13:15 »
I was having trouble going from a google search to the specific image of mine in the SS database. but I found that if I looked at one of the ones that is still visible in my portfolio, an agent pops up and asks if she can help. So I ask why the image with ID.... is not available. Then you can chat with them...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Boycott Shutterstock
« on: June 15, 2020, 11:33 »
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?

Steve

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Canva / Re: Negative earnings anyone
« on: June 15, 2020, 10:07 »
And for me - double the March earnings

Steve

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I've just deactivated my 14,500 assets

Steve

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How much funding did Symbiostock got before the project collapsed? How did it failed? Can anybody brief us the history of Symbiostock?

I know this is a double post, but there is another thread running about this proposed agency. Here is my "history" of symbiostock: https://backyardsilver.com/do-self-hosted-stock-photo-sites-ever-work/

Steve

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There already is such software available - symbiostock at https://www.symbiostock.org/

There is also a community agency that is built on all the various artists using the symbiostock code - http://www.symzio.com/

I used to have a site with 6500 images on it using this code and it worked very well, but I really screwed up the database somehow and couldn't really recover it. If you are interested, I wrote the whole history (as I remembered it) of this project here: https://backyardsilver.com/do-self-hosted-stock-photo-sites-ever-work/

These are self hosted sites which isn't what is being discussed here, but I believe the developer also came up with a multi-artist solution that someone could manage on behalf of multiple artists.

The biggest issue in all this is not the site or the hosting - it is getting customers to pay. Illustrators seemed to do better than photographers in this respect, but I'm not sure anyone really made it work financially.

Steve

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Hi Steve, I am not sure how Icould process your rpd based on this graph that you are showing. Did you apply standard variables from June to all your previous performance and applied to the total of your results since Jan 18? I am not sure how you ended up in this result. Because how can you know how many sub customers from each different customer category purchased your images? Or did you apply it as a fixed standard with an "average sub download price"?

In this post I am measuring an average rpd, preferably excluding any extended or enhanced licenses and comparing average of sub and od sales.

So if you do this exact calculation and can submit on the requested format I could definitely use your insight.

Sorry to have highjacked the post and calculations. I'll see if I can work that out, although for the higher tier people the single sales will make a big difference each month as we will get a higher percentage of the paid amount. I saw the title of the post and didn't read all the previous responses, my mistake!

Steve

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I hesitated many times last night before clicking the "publish" button on my own calculations on the impact of the changes to my portfolio. I'm a Level 5 and so I know I am not going to be hit anywhere near as hard as the lower levels contributors and I was also worried that three days (as we couldn't really tell what was happening on Day 1 and 2) would be statistically accurate enough. But I did publish it in the end for what it is worth. I calculated that based on my results so far, I would be down on average by about 6% when I looked at all my results from Jan 2018 through May 2020. This is images only - I'm sure my video earnings will be down, but they are pretty variable from month to month in both volume and price per clip. I definitely lose on Subscriptions with a 36% drop, but ODs seem to be up by about 12% and ED and SODs should be improved by 17%. You can see all the calculations on my blog, but here is my overall graph:


Steve
https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-payout-changes-likely-impact/

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Interesting about the discounting comment - so that is maybe why Shutterstock would not produce a chart showing these sort of numbers I guess.

Steve

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I'm getting higher payments in the Subscription section of the earnings report, but then lots of smaller numbers in the Single and Other section. And what is even worse - those small numbers don't align with the table that we sort of understood would be used to pay out against the various subscription packages. I included that table in my blog post so I have an easy place to find it, but it is here as well. I don't know who produced the first version of this (lost in the Shutterstock forum), but thanks to that person:



Steve

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Yaymicro / Re: Yay reopening??
« on: June 01, 2020, 14:13 »
You need to apply for submitting videos (they don't sell them to the public yet). I understand that they are likely to take some appropriate editorial images and videos but it might be on a contributor by contributor basis depending on what they think might be in demand.

Steve

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