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Hey folks

Happy to share the study ("part 1") that I did to analyze keywording on microstocks: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/microstock-keywording-analysis/

Would be very interested in your opinion and possibly what should I target for "part 2"!

Thanks

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Happy to share that the study is published! I feel like this is only "part 1" though, as there's just too much data to analyze.

https://xpiksapp.com/blog/microstock-keywording-analysis/

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back in symbiostock days i started some keyword analysis since we had data from multiple sites

http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-keywords.asp

i did some calculations for uniqueness, information value, and relative worth


Looks very interesting. Thanks for the link!

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Hi

I'm going to do a larger scale study of the keywording on microstocks. Was wondering if folks here have any specific questions about it that I could address in the study?

UPD. Study (part 1) is published now: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/microstock-keywording-analysis/

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Mine has brought me over $6,000 and I did the analysis how fast the sales dry up: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/earn-6314-usd-single-photo-shutterstock/

Basically the estimate is that sales will reach zero in approximately 10 years after the start. And they have clear seasonal peaks, at least for me.

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You can clean that metadata with Xpiks.

There are two options:
- remove one or more or Keywords/Title/Description using batch editing: https://xpiksapp.com/tutorials/batch-editing-basic/
- wipe all metadata from files: https://xpiksapp.com/tutorials/howto-wipe-metadata/

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Also you suppose: That they are actually going to hold all the images they can, to squeeze out every penny, and prevent you from uploading to other places? And that's based on your personal logical deduction, because "otherwise they would not have the unreasonable ...clause" (I don't like that bit of the terms and maybe people who like to join and quit and join and quit, shouldn't like it either, but you are accusing and attributing motivations, based on your own imaginary reasons, not evidence?)

You bet that's what they are doing? Is that a fact or a hypothetical?  ;D

This is hypothetical. Just as the point of the article says: this is a legally possible situation and I'm stating that you probably do not want to check on yourself if this will hold true or not. Because if it will, you will be in trouble.

I agree with your statement that the tone of the article could be classified as a bit too strong, and I'm truly sorry if somebody's feelings were hurt in a way.

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Lets deal in facts instead of accusing and hypothetical? DO THEY? Or do you think they might? Or is there any evidence of fact behind what you bet?

Uncle Pete, this is called logical deduction from publicly available information. You do not need to hypothesize will you die or not die if Russians will hit you with a bomb, that does not have to happen to you to make some conclusions. Microstocks do not allow duplicates in different accounts. Period. This is written in their terms of service. Wirestock sells your files 1 extra month for each 100 files. Written in the terms of service. This means, in plain English, that you cannot upload your own files under your personal account while you are in the process of closing Wirestock account (if you will) for as long as few years if you have few thousand files. If for you this seems to be far fetched, I'm sorry.

There is no single "imaginary" statement in my blogpost, all the information is based on facts from Wirestock terms and conditions. The only hypothetization is if they will go out of business, but this is clearly mentioned with "IF"s.

To the contrary of what you are saying, I did not forget about benefits, this is in the very very beginning in the section "Value proposition of the Wirestock".

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I can use Xpiks for 10 hours to keyword my 300 photos or instead use 1 click.

It's a popular fallacy, exactly what I'm discussing in the blogpost. Of course it's never 1 click with Wirestock and it's never 10 hours with Xpiks (especially with AI keywording, batch editing, presets and what not). The point is that saving some time today with Wirestock puts you in an disproportional risk of wasting way more time later (and potentially loosing also earnings). That is the point I wanted to make in the article.

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1) Yes you can sell these files, who's going to stop you? Or will they close your account?  ;D

Of course not, the microstock where you will upload them will not allow duplicates. Wirestock has nothing to do there. If I was the Wirestock, I would sell these files the maximum allowed time by the ToS and delete them only the last day to increase the revenue. And I bet this is exactly what they are doing, otherwise they would not have the unreasonable "1 month for every 100 files" clause (not to mention that original 3 months clause is unreasonable too).

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"Wirestock claims you get paid more because their account is in the higher rate level." Do they make that claim, or is that us. No matter, you are still wrong:
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html
Adobe has levels.
Lifetime Licenses (free downloads don't count)
Minimum Royalty Amount
0-999 $0.33
1,000-9,999 $0.36
10,000 and above $0.38

Your argument that the gain is minimal would seem to be ignoring that the minimal gain pays back for using WS.

You are right and I updated the article, mentioning the minimum royalty amount tier. The reason it was not there initially is that the difference between tiers is, in my opinion, totally insignificant (0.33 - 0.36 - 0.38). On imaginary 100 sales per month it will be 100*$0.03 = $3.

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If I could be bothered, I'd write a why you should never ever work with Xpiks...

And as truly honestly as I can: I would love to read that article! So please do bother. You can even write about it on this very forum. The reason is I have nothing to hide in Xpiks, no secret fees/hooks/etc. I'm just trying to make a good software that is useful. If you don't like it, I'm very interested to learn why!

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Why spending many hours keywording and uploading when you can do it in simply one click.

For the reasons I described in the article. The bottom line is: in my opinion the benefits from their keywording are way less than the risks involved. If you think otherwise, it's fine. Just I think it's worth warning people.

As for the business reason for the article - not really. There are tools out there besides Xpiks, I never force anybody to use anything. But I can raise awareness of the risks involved with Wirestock.

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It certainly makes Xpiks look like a lousy company.

Ha-ha, don't worry. Xpiks did not become a more lousy company than it was after publishing the blogpost. Just I got upset with people falling into the trap (in my opinion).

I would never write anything like this about a direct competitor.

You see, I have opinions and desire to express them. It's up to you how do you perceive them. Also you slighly misunderstand this business: Xpiks and Wirestock offer a completely different value proposition. Wirestock is more of an agency itself and Xpiks is more like Photoshop. These are two different worlds.

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But where in the TOS mentioned that they keep 100% earnings in that period? They don't motioned that they keep all earnings in that time. They have to pay us our 85% even after we request to delete our files for that period.

It's mentioned nowhere that they keep 100%, also not mentioned in my rant. They keep only their share, but the files are essentially locked for you as by ToS you cannot sell them anywhere and effectively you delisted them from Wirestock. Meaning they have the legal right (which you agreed to by registering there) to NOT pay you, because you are deactivating the account.

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all the stress from me for uploading

Honestly would be much interested to hear more about it! What stress do you have with uploading? If you do not want to share here, please DM me. Thanks!

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If you are a pro stocker and make a fulltime income from it, then it is better to upload to your own ports.

But for stock newbies and everyone struggling with english, this is a very fair offer.

I agree and I come to the similar conclusions in the blogpost. The only point is if you are newbie, being in the higher royalty rate will hardly make a huge difference for you financially (think you will earn $10/month instead of $4 per month). But if you have larger portfolio then you also do not need Wirestock.

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Software / Re: Xpiks - open source software for microstocker
« on: July 01, 2022, 09:12 »
Does it work with editorial content?

Editorial content is just like any other content. So the answer is yes. What makes your content editorial is just the absence of model releases or being "newsworthy". From all other perspectives, it's all the same.

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Hello

A little rant from me for hearing too much about Wirestock: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/never-use-wirestock/

Let me know what are you thoughts! Do you think this is all wrong and actually WS is a good time investment?

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Software / Re: Xpiks - open source software for microstocker
« on: June 30, 2022, 08:22 »
There's a new Xpiks release available: 1.7.1

Check out new features here: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/xpiks-171-release/

  • Ability to upload via Xpiks Cloud
  • Speedup local upload to a single host
  • Plugin to translate to and from 26 languages
  • Plugin to track user cloud uploads
  • Add functionality to delete the license
  • Add ability to reset host upload settings to defaults
  • Allow to Find-and-Replace to a list of keywords
  • Ask for user email to start a trial
  • Allow limited CSV export plans for free plan users
  • Allow limited presets for free plan users
  • Improve filename matching when using CSV import
  • Improve upload history accounting for changed files
  • Fix upload progress stalled after upload is retried
  • Fix hang on Windows when Delete Keywords is used
  • Fix crash of translation plugin load on Windows
  • Add Thai translation

Enjoy!

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Software - General / Cloud upload with Xpiks
« on: June 30, 2022, 07:11 »
Hello everybody

I'm happy to announce that it's possible to upload "via Cloud" in new Xpiks release. It means you upload only once from your computer to Xpiks Cloud and then your files get uploaded automatically to all the microstocks that you specified. This should help greatly when uploading many files or for video uploads that usually take forever. Cloud upload will give you a piece of mind with upload and can be used conveniently from within Xpiks.

Read more here: https://xpiksapp.com/cloud-upload/

I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts!

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I've been lurking in this forum for a while now, and it was very depressing lol.
It seems like the microstock market is a sinking ship, and I was really serious about starting to upload some of my art, but I don't know anymore.
Maybe people only post when they are unhappy and want to complain and successful people are silent lol. Can anyone tell some recent success story?

Hey @Myster123

Actually you can take a look at the projections we have recently published with Alex here: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/first-years-microstock-earnings/. Hopefully it contains at least some answers to your questions.

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Xpiks - free version but I don't know much about it.  I didn't like it.

Hi @angelacat

Xpiks author here. I'd love to hear why didn't you like Xpiks? Any feedback is highly appreciated. Thank you!

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Hi folks

Theo wrote a wonderful technical guide with lots of tips for newbie and pro video contributors. He covered lots of information starting from what and where to shoot, which codecs to use, to how to post-process and where to sell (covering all video-specific agencies that nobody is talking about like RobertHarding, Nimia etc.).

Check it out: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/microstock-video-guide/

Let me know what do you think of it and maybe if there's anything we missed from the article?

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Software / Re: Xpiks - open source software for microstocker
« on: February 25, 2022, 13:06 »
Xpiks stops servicing customers from Russian Federation and Belarus until further notice because of the Russian war in Ukraine.

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