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« on: March 11, 2015, 08:14 »
I've not got a single sale of any type for Feb 28, which seems a bit improbable. Are others seeing sales for the 28th - any sales, PP, subs, ordinary. Was the site down that day?
752
« on: March 10, 2015, 17:11 »
The return on effort is a fraction of what it once was. So in your position, it's probably better to find some other revenue source.
753
« on: March 09, 2015, 06:58 »
Errm - isn't "white balancing" all about adjusting the colour balance to replicate what the scene would look like under white light?
You can use it to do other things, of course, but tungsten-balanced film in the old days had a strong blue cast to balance the orange of the lights, and the 81A filter (if I remember the name correctly) was created to do the same thing if you were shooting with daylight balanced film in a tungsten lit environment.
754
« on: March 05, 2015, 01:22 »
In the absence of a raise how about seeing more downloads in BRIC and MINT - the fabled new markets every European and American business is always blathering on about?
Brazil,Russia,India,China - Mexico,Indonesia,Nigeria and Turkey
I'm not sure that pumping files into those places helps a lot, given the strength of intellectual property protection in many of them.
755
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:59 »
A poor month pretty much everywhere.
756
« on: March 02, 2015, 05:00 »
According to the SS forum date I've been contributing to them since 2005. Was "Dreamstime" still a contributor to iStock back then?
I joined DT at the end of October 2004; the domain registration says it began June 2000 (istockphoto was registered January 2000). This article (in Spanish but Google translate helps) says the web design company Archiweb was around from 2000
http://mymicrostock.net/serban-enache-ceo-de-dreamstime-nos-habla-sobre-filosofia-de-una-de-las-mejores-agencias-microstock/
I joined in June 2004, just after they opened the site for contributions. The first file I uploaded is number 5305 on June 8 that year. By October, the file numbers were up around 30,000 and they had around 20,000 images online. I think iStock allowed Serban to have his site and continue as an iStock contributor for a few months after he announced (on iStock's message board) that he was taking contributions. By November 2004, when Shutterstock opened its doors, they weren't allowing that sort of thing and more. Oh, and it's not dying. It may not be doing terribly well for individual contributors but it will be generating a lot of cash as a company.
757
« on: March 01, 2015, 01:58 »
Art may have been excluded from embellished sales practices so it's a surprise to see someone applying it to art.
You must be on a different planet! Unmade beds and rotting sheep worth the price of a house? An entire industry where everything is valued not on how good it is but on who made it? An industry where success or failure depends on whether you have friends in the establishment who will publicly swoon over what you produce? An industry where one "expert opinion" can change the value of an object from $100 to $1,000,000. And that's leaving out watercolour societies that can't tell the difference between an injet print and a "hyperrealistic" painting, or where everybody is copying LS Lowry and putting his name on the bottom and even more people are copying your photos and mine to sell on the same microstock sites? The whole art industry is about deceiving people into thinking things that have little intrinsic worth or merit are worth a fortune. But it's not usually the person who creates them who creams off the cash, so good luck to those that do. Look at Banksy, setting up a stall in NYC and offering original, signed prints to the sophisticated New Yorkers passing by for a few dozen dollars. Scarcely any of them could see enough merit in his work to be bothered to buy it but I bet a good many of them would kill to have one of his works on their wall. Everything in art is illusion and trickery.
758
« on: February 27, 2015, 17:07 »
The best thing that could ever happen to iStock would be for Getty to spin them off to make some quick money. Getting out from under Getty is the only way iStock will ever bounce back.
Does istock still exist? It seems completely absorbed by Getty to me, I don't think they could spin it off and who would they sell it to? Selling to one of their rivals wouldn't be a good business move.
Sell it back to Bruce Livingstone, the iStock originator. I'd guess he could use only a part of his earlier sale price to buy it back. He would still have good living money and also have his baby back.
But the baby has grown into a monstrous, abusive teen while he was away.
759
« on: February 27, 2015, 13:49 »
So it's just a question of what colour light is on your screen? If you have a properly callibrated screen for the light you are working in you will see overexposed blue and black (which is what I did see the first time I encountered this dress)?
Oh, no, now I'm going mad because the original version I looked at has turned white and gold, too.....
760
« on: February 27, 2015, 10:33 »
Where have I said that you were reaching "absurd conclusions" ?
You didn't, not as such, but I felt it was the general tenor of the discussion.
761
« on: February 27, 2015, 08:32 »
That chat between the infringer and Alamy retroactively licensing an image to them while the photographer was pursuing them for payment is remarkably sleazy. Isn't that falsifying documents, offering to go in and change the dates on the license after the fact to "undo" the stealing of an image? If I were the photographer I'd continue to pursue the infringer and go after Alamy as well.
Forget the new terms...that act alone is enough for me to decide not to place images with them. Now I'm glad their "two weeks" for uploading vectors stretched into years.
I doubt if that license would be valid once legal proceedings had begun, it would probably amount to a criminal conspiracy, and I don't think it's clear that Alamy knew anything about there being an existing legal action at the time they were being asked for a backdated license. The e-mail made clear that they were going to mark it as newly issued but to cover an earlier time, so it couldn't be presented in court as being issued prior to the illegal usage, so I doubt that the court would accept it. I think we all knew that if Alamy tracked down, for example, unpaid usage by an established client they would simply charge for backdated usage rather than trying to get damages. I had a case of a sale that wasn't credited long after the usage and after I reported it to them they chased-up and I duly got a payment shortly afterwards. Do we object to them doing that? Getty Images also had a habit of invoicing (admittedly at punitive rates) rather than suing if they caught an illegal use.
762
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:23 »
This is what I was looking for: http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/hf-presses-on-with-$4-billion-getty-images-sale/msg267660/#msg267660
Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on August 15, 2012, 08:03
It's incredible the way they pile more and more debt onto it and proclaim it's worth more and more. It reminds me of the famous Dutch tulip price bubble.
Reply from Gostwyck:
I don't get it either. It's not even as if the business is growing in any significant way. The markets into which Getty sells are getting more competitive and/or are in decline in the case of newspapers and magazines. Since H&F bought Getty they appear to have added little value, stripped it of cash and piled it with debt. I guess you have to admire them for having pulled the sale off.
And, also from me: didn't Getty pay HF before it had the first lot of debt piled onto it? With this new deal it has to repay the original debt, the new debt and then produce an additional billion for Carlyle to get their cash back. Is it then going to get passed on to someone else for $5b with $4b of that coming from bank loans, while Carlyle gloat over their profits? Is it some sort of create-money-from-debt perpetual motion machine?
I suppose if it becomes impossible to repay, the debt will be split up into tiny sums bundled into a "sub prime" package and sold on at twice its value to unsuspecting private punters, leaving the investment funds and bankers laughing. Or am I being too cynical? Modify message Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 09:06 by BaldricksTrousers The question is, if a couple of ordinary guys could see where this was going two and a half years ago, how could Carlyle with all their fancy experts and access to the books fail to notice it?
764
« on: February 27, 2015, 03:20 »
Isn't it a contradiction to DMCA? Copyright holder can demand everybody except agency? Or not exposing but continuing to sell is not under DMCA?
If you agree to the terms then that would trump the DMCA.
765
« on: February 27, 2015, 01:38 »
The problem with Getty is a shortage of ready cash (liquidity) so the answer is hang on to the cash for as long as possible.
Let's go back to the water through pipe flow analogy. The same amount is still coming out of the end. So it makes no difference.
But it's a longer pipe, so it's holding more water and coming out in a different place. That's increased the amount of liquid-ity. The length of the pipe is equivalent to time in this equation. You only benefit once from extending the pipe. But it does mean an insolvent company could continue trading for longer (not that I'm saying iStock is about to go bust).
766
« on: February 27, 2015, 01:29 »
This is unfortunate. I think it will probably be quite rare for any of these things to have a practical effect - but is it just standard practice for lawyers to sit around thinking of every possible eventuality so they can draw up unfair and abusive contracts to impose on their clients' business partners?
767
« on: February 26, 2015, 16:16 »
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-26/getty-images-outlook-blurs-as-photo-rivalry-triggers-price-war
Another story about Getty's difficulties. This glosses over how much of this has been an own goal on Getty's part, IMO. Certainly Shutterstock deserves some credit (and no one would even be mentioning Fotolia if Adobe hadn't purchased them), but they have benefitted hugely from Getty's eff-ups and crappy treatment of contributors across their various segments.
It's interesting that they are claiming only 8 million exclusive images. As SS has 40 million it would work out at only equivalent to one extra for every 5 at SS - but, of course, the crazy uploading system and low returns must mean that SS is getting content that people no longer bother to send to IS, so it will have its own quasi-exclusive stuff. Overall, iStock seems to be claiming 20.6 million images (I assume that's what the bizarre landing page reference to "LifesizeImages" means), so SS is double its size.
768
« on: February 26, 2015, 03:02 »
Their real problem is that they borrowed against tomorrow to live high on the hog today, with all those fabulous bonuses and profits from ramped valuations of the company, and now repaying the loans is problematic. Still, the bonuses are safely banked, aren't they? So the management is fine. It's SOOOOO like Greece.
769
« on: February 25, 2015, 13:08 »
Well, we told them ... etc It may not suit many of us but the strategy likely makes sense in the context of Getty likely moving towards an IPO.
It's hard to see how adopting policies that make less money are going to help a flotation price - but I'm no business guru.
770
« on: February 25, 2015, 12:54 »
Well, we told them what was going to happen when they announced that they were "revaluing" the credits, didn't we? Some may have been able to get files cheaper than before, but those who usually bought one-credit files suddenly found they were being ripped off. You didn't need an MBA to see where that was going to lead. But maybe you needed an MBA to be completely out of touch with reality and to think it was all a good idea that would bring in heaps more "sustainability".
771
« on: February 25, 2015, 10:15 »
it wasn't until the mid to late 90s that colour started to be standard for many pages in daily newspapers
It was the weekend magazines which took over the tradition of the picture story (from Life, Picture Post etc). And the British and US newspapers had color pictures stories in the Sunday magazines at least as far back as the mid 60s. Eg - famously - Cartier Bresson's pictures of Eton, Tim Page in Vietnam etc in the Sunday Times.
Yeah, but those were things that had a long lead in. Colour wasn't feasible for daily papers for various reasons - the number of printing cylinders was usually insufficient as it takes three additional cylinders to get colour on a single page (or set of four pages for a tabloid, two for broadsheet), the time involved in developing film and then in getting separations or blocks made and the additional cost of plates and ink all made colour a no-no. So only feature photographers would shoot colour, or those on weekly magazines.
772
« on: February 25, 2015, 09:57 »
I can go along with important historical records, and - fair enough if he was trying different materials (though surely 120 B&W was standard for reporting in the 50s, 60s and 70s - not colour, of course, because the printing methods for news couldn't cope and development took longer; as late as the 80s I was having to send colour material out to a specialist shop to get separations made for a local newspaper and it wasn't until the mid to late 90s that colour started to be standard for many pages in daily newspapers, as computers allowed direct printing of full colour page negatives - and advertisers were willing to pay for colour).
773
« on: February 25, 2015, 09:46 »
I hear the Wolfgang Schuble is to be head of Contributor Remuneration Affairs, once he's finished sorting out Greece. Requests for a pay rise can be sent to him through the normal channels, or if you need emergency funds you can reach him directly by dialling Nein! Nein! Nein!
774
« on: February 25, 2015, 08:59 »
As someone who hasn't heard of him, I am being serious. I had a look at his work and what I saw could have been taken by any Tom Dick or Harry. No it couldn't. He absolutely forged new ground both stylistically and in terms of the subject matter and technical approach.
But perhaps Martin Parr is mostly famous in the UK
The word 'fame' is not especially appropriate in this context IMO. This is not Disney or the X - Factor. Suffice to say that Martin Parr is very well known internationally* - in the world of reportage and in terms of intelligent photography in general. He belongs to a lineage of photographers which would also include all of Magnum - but also gallery photographers back through William Eggleston, Lee Freidlander etc. Straight out of and directly back to The Family of Man tradition IMO.
* eg his work is included in the permanent collection at MOMA
Well, I've googled to try to find out what's so different and innovative and so far all I've found is that he reckons you should get close to your subject for street photography... I'm not sure when that was innovative. Until I find something more persuasive I'll stick with the idea that he's probably succeeded largely through contacts and marketing and self-promotion, as so many have done, and you can stick with the idea that I'm a cultural philistine, if you like. Throwing in Moma and Magnum is really just an "argument from authority", which suggests we should not have our own opinions but should slavishly swallow what some establishment expert has decreed. I'd rather have my own views on artistic merit, even if they seem ridiculous or naive to others.
775
« on: February 25, 2015, 07:19 »
He's got a few bits on Magnum, though goodness knows why, with his snapshots with wonky horizons.
Are you serious ? He is one of the most significant British photographers of the past 40 years. And has also done a huge amount to promote British photography - in particular the work of Tony Ray Jones.
ETA: personally I am not so interested in his work - but I can understand its important place in the evolution both of British photography and of Magnum. And I love listening to him talk.
As someone who hasn't heard of him, I am being serious. I had a look at his work and what I saw could have been taken by any Tom Dick or Harry. But he's obviously promoted himself well, and become (apparently) famous and made good money and gone all over the place taking lots of shots .... now, who does that remind me of? Oh, yeah, Peter Lik. But perhaps Martin Parr is mostly famous in the UK, Lik is certainly famous in a lot of places so I'm surprised if Parr hasn't heard of him since I've stumbled into references to him for a good number of years (and I'm not wild about his style, either).
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