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Show posts MenuQuote from: pic_pom on December 03, 2021, 09:29Quote from: Uncle Pete on December 02, 2021, 16:35Quote from: Wilm on December 01, 2021, 22:49Quote from: pic_pom on December 01, 2021, 13:15
but i produce 50 MP pictures and it a shame to downsize them to 20 or less.
In my view, this is the wrong approach! You get between $0.10 and $0.20 for most downloads, and with the revenue you worry about the generous buyer only getting a 20 MP photo? How many downloads do you need to even begin to recoup the cost of an equimpment that allows 50MP?
From a financial point of view, I think you need to rethink!
That's my answer too. Just downsize and move on. Giving away 50MP images for a dime is not going to make more than giving away 10MP images for a dime. And if the 10MP images come from that 50MP camera (what the heck is that?) and you are downsizing, you'll have almost no rejections for focus, pixelation, grain, soft or any of the other absurd rejections from the SS Bots.
I have also bigger sales at SS, actually these bigger sales drive the overal revenue, why should I not have the chance to have them?
now, in the last days I did not have any rejections anymore, weirdly exactly after opening this thread, perhaps a coincidence?
Quote from: pic_pom on December 01, 2021, 13:15
but i produce 50 MP pictures and it a shame to downsize them to 20 or less.
Quote from: cascoly on December 01, 2021, 20:17Quote from: Level6 on December 01, 2021, 16:19....
Even if an agency offers to pay for your images or videos at a fair price to make up their free collection, unless you're planning to retire and walk away from the business it's not worth it.
Media companies and large production companies will use free if they can get it especially if the quality is ok and it fits their needs.
What's needed is an end to free anything but also a forensic accounting of all these deals agencies have and that won't happen and that's why this has become a ticket to bankruptcy.
maybe the future of microstock is going to be ALL free images for consumers, with photographers getting 1-time payments of $5 by agencies to build their collections.
Quote from: Diana Herrmann on November 30, 2021, 13:54Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 21:36Quote from: cascoly on November 28, 2021, 20:59Quote from: Wilm on November 19, 2021, 23:12
I did my personal math and came to the conclusion that Adobe's free selection is a losing proposition. It flushes money into the cash once and then brings losses for the remaining 11 months. That is the reason why I do not participate....
what 'math' leads to that conclusion? even for those with reduced sales (and many are reorting no reduction in sales), correlation is not causation
I checked how many of my images that Adobe Stock had selected for free selection were downloaded from AS over a four-week period and what revenue I generated. I extrapolated the revenue over a 12 month period. If sales continue like this for the remaining 11 months, I will not make a financial profit by releasing them in free selection.
I based this on the numbers I know from many other providers. So I can get an approximate idea of what percentage of the images AS has selected from my portfolio for the free selection would be accepted.
In addition, the images will continue to be purchased from other agencies. So there would be the additional risk that they no longer bring in anything there when the buyers see that they cost nothing at AS.
Adobe doesn't select images for free, we do. I only picked those that didn't have sales. Now I have money instead of nothing.
Quote from: cascoly on November 29, 2021, 19:19Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 21:36first, thanks for supplying some details.Quote from: cascoly on November 28, 2021, 20:59
what 'math' leads to that conclusion? even for those with reduced sales (and many are reorting no reduction in sales), correlation is not causation
I checked how many of my images that Adobe Stock had selected for free selection were downloaded from AS over a four-week period and what revenue I generated. I extrapolated the revenue over a 12 month period. If sales continue like this for the remaining 11 months, I will not make a financial profit by releasing them in free selection.
i'm confused though, AS said the images selected for free were those that HADN'T generated any income. also, how did you decide which 4-week period to use? given how stochastic the market is, extrapolating is unlikely to be statistically significant over any such period.Quoteas has been discussed many times, there's little evidence buyers shop across agencies, esp'ly if they have subscriptions.
In addition, the images will continue to be purchased from other agencies. So there would be the additional risk that they no longer bring in anything there when the buyers see that they cost nothing at AS.
Quote from: cascoly on November 29, 2021, 19:19Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 21:36first, thanks for supplying some details.Quote from: cascoly on November 28, 2021, 20:59
what 'math' leads to that conclusion? even for those with reduced sales (and many are reorting no reduction in sales), correlation is not causation
I checked how many of my images that Adobe Stock had selected for free selection were downloaded from AS over a four-week period and what revenue I generated. I extrapolated the revenue over a 12 month period. If sales continue like this for the remaining 11 months, I will not make a financial profit by releasing them in free selection.
i'm confused though, AS said the images selected for free were those that HADN'T generated any income. also, how did you decide which 4-week period to use? given how stochastic the market is, extrapolating is unlikely to be statistically significant over any such period.Quote
I do not know the source of your information, but it is wrong.
I currently have 68 images that are eligible for free selection. And these images have reached more than 500 downloads so far.
Quote from: cascoly on November 28, 2021, 20:59Quote from: Wilm on November 19, 2021, 23:12
I did my personal math and came to the conclusion that Adobe's free selection is a losing proposition. It flushes money into the cash once and then brings losses for the remaining 11 months. That is the reason why I do not participate....
what 'math' leads to that conclusion? even for those with reduced sales (and many are reorting no reduction in sales), correlation is not causation
Quote from: marthamarks on November 28, 2021, 19:23Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 12:02Quote from: marthamarks on November 28, 2021, 00:55Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 00:48Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 23:26Quote from: Wilm on November 27, 2021, 13:30Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 06:51Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 16:44
Maybe cuteness. Or schema of childlike characteristics. ...
Basically, it's about the fact that babies - whether human or animal - are perceived as cute by everyone. Big googly eyes, round soft shapes, small nose, overall very small face relative to the size of the head, so childlike proportions.
Wilm, I got curious and dug around a bit on the internet. Turned up this blog... from Shutterstock, of all places!
SS refers to it as "the cute factor," as opposed to "cuteness" (which is what sounds best to me). But either way, it's exactly as you described it above.
https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/the-cute-factor-why-were-obsessed-with-pictures-of-babies-and-animals
Thanks, Martha, I didn't know about this blog post.
Is what Thijs writes true? Did you live in Heidelberg when you were a child? I was born there and lived there until I was 23 years old.
At that time Heidelberg was the European headquarters of the US land forces. Were your parents or your father in the US Army?
Yes, that's exactly right. My father was with the US Army. We lived at 107 Roemerstrasse (that's my own English phoenetic spelling) in Heidelberg from 1951 to 1954. During that time, we traveled all over Western Europe, from the boot of Italy to the fjords in Norway. It was a great time to be an American in Europe and quite a marvelous introduction to the world!
I'll add that I started school (first and second grade) in the American school there. Our teachers were Americans, but they had local assistants who taught us to sing in German a wealth of Christmas carols and folk songs, how to count, the German alphabet, colors, clothing, body parts, and other basic things. I can still sing many of the things I learned, but they would probably sound all wrong to you, because for me it's just rote memory from a loooooooooong time ago.
Römerstraße - it must have been called ,,Mark Twain Village". ,,Patrick Henry Village" was located some miles away- as far as I remember...
I used to play tennis there.
I don't remember it being called Mark Twain Village or anything like that.
But yes, it was Römerstraße. I remember that spelling now. It's the first street address that I remember memorizing.
There was a bridge built by the Romans (German translation = "Römer") in Heidelberg to cross the river Neckar and get to Ladenburg (founded in the year 40 after *) - a former Roman fort. So you were living on historical ground.
Wilm, I remember that bridge very well. Even have a photo that my mother took of me standing on it, with the Schloss behind me, I think.
I also remember the medieval Red Ox student tavern in old-town Heidelberg. Roten Ochsen... I just looked it up! At age 6 or 7, I was too young to drink the beer on tap, but I remember eating there!
That was a very happy time in my life. Thanks for bringing the memories back to me.
Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 12:02Quote from: marthamarks on November 28, 2021, 00:55Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 00:48Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 23:26Quote from: Wilm on November 27, 2021, 13:30Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 06:51Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 16:44
Maybe cuteness. Or schema of childlike characteristics. ...
Basically, it's about the fact that babies - whether human or animal - are perceived as cute by everyone. Big googly eyes, round soft shapes, small nose, overall very small face relative to the size of the head, so childlike proportions.
Wilm, I got curious and dug around a bit on the internet. Turned up this blog... from Shutterstock, of all places!
SS refers to it as "the cute factor," as opposed to "cuteness" (which is what sounds best to me). But either way, it's exactly as you described it above.
https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/the-cute-factor-why-were-obsessed-with-pictures-of-babies-and-animals
Thanks, Martha, I didn't know about this blog post.
Is what Thijs writes true? Did you live in Heidelberg when you were a child? I was born there and lived there until I was 23 years old.
At that time Heidelberg was the European headquarters of the US land forces. Were your parents or your father in the US Army?
Yes, that's exactly right. My father was with the US Army. We lived at 107 Roemerstrasse (that's my own English phoenetic spelling) in Heidelberg from 1951 to 1954. During that time, we traveled all over Western Europe, from the boot of Italy to the fjords in Norway. It was a great time to be an American in Europe and quite a marvelous introduction to the world!
I'll add that I started school (first and second grade) in the American school there. Our teachers were Americans, but they had local assistants who taught us to sing in German a wealth of Christmas carols and folk songs, how to count, the German alphabet, colors, clothing, body parts, and other basic things. I can still sing many of the things I learned, but they would probably sound all wrong to you, because for me it's just rote memory from a loooooooooong time ago.
Römerstraße - it must have been called ,,Mark Twain Village". ,,Patrick Henry Village" was located some miles away- as far as I remember...
I used to play tennis there.
I don't remember it being called Mark Twain Village or anything like that.
But yes, it was Römerstraße. I remember that spelling now. It's the first street address that I remember memorizing.
There was a bridge built by the Romans (German translation = "Römer") in Heidelberg to cross the river Neckar and get to Ladenburg (founded in the year 40 after *) - a former Roman fort. So you were living on historical ground.
Quote from: marthamarks on November 28, 2021, 00:55Quote from: Wilm on November 28, 2021, 00:48Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 23:26Quote from: Wilm on November 27, 2021, 13:30Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 06:51Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 16:44
Maybe cuteness. Or schema of childlike characteristics. ...
Basically, it's about the fact that babies - whether human or animal - are perceived as cute by everyone. Big googly eyes, round soft shapes, small nose, overall very small face relative to the size of the head, so childlike proportions.
Wilm, I got curious and dug around a bit on the internet. Turned up this blog... from Shutterstock, of all places!
SS refers to it as "the cute factor," as opposed to "cuteness" (which is what sounds best to me). But either way, it's exactly as you described it above.
https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/the-cute-factor-why-were-obsessed-with-pictures-of-babies-and-animals
Thanks, Martha, I didn't know about this blog post.
Is what Thijs writes true? Did you live in Heidelberg when you were a child? I was born there and lived there until I was 23 years old.
At that time Heidelberg was the European headquarters of the US land forces. Were your parents or your father in the US Army?
Yes, that's exactly right. My father was with the US Army. We lived at 107 Roemerstrasse (that's my own English phoenetic spelling) in Heidelberg from 1951 to 1954. During that time, we traveled all over Western Europe, from the boot of Italy to the fjords in Norway. It was a great time to be an American in Europe and quite a marvelous introduction to the world!
I'll add that I started school (first and second grade) in the American school there. Our teachers were Americans, but they had local assistants who taught us to sing in German a wealth of Christmas carols and folk songs, how to count, the German alphabet, colors, clothing, body parts, and other basic things. I can still sing many of the things I learned, but they would probably sound all wrong to you, because for me it's just rote memory from a loooooooooong time ago.
Römerstraße - it must have been called ,,Mark Twain Village". ,,Patrick Henry Village" was located some miles away- as far as I remember...
I used to play tennis there.
I don't remember it being called Mark Twain Village or anything like that.
But yes, it was Römerstraße. I remember that spelling now. It's the first street address that I remember memorizing.
Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 23:26Quote from: Wilm on November 27, 2021, 13:30Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 06:51Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 16:44
Maybe cuteness. Or schema of childlike characteristics. ...
Basically, it's about the fact that babies - whether human or animal - are perceived as cute by everyone. Big googly eyes, round soft shapes, small nose, overall very small face relative to the size of the head, so childlike proportions.
Wilm, I got curious and dug around a bit on the internet. Turned up this blog... from Shutterstock, of all places!
SS refers to it as "the cute factor," as opposed to "cuteness" (which is what sounds best to me). But either way, it's exactly as you described it above.
https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/the-cute-factor-why-were-obsessed-with-pictures-of-babies-and-animals
Thanks, Martha, I didn't know about this blog post.
Is what Thijs writes true? Did you live in Heidelberg when you were a child? I was born there and lived there until I was 23 years old.
At that time Heidelberg was the European headquarters of the US land forces. Were your parents or your father in the US Army?
Yes, that's exactly right. My father was with the US Army. We lived at 107 Roemerstrasse (that's my own English phoenetic spelling) in Heidelberg from 1951 to 1954. During that time, we traveled all over Western Europe, from the boot of Italy to the fjords in Norway. It was a great time to be an American in Europe and quite a marvelous introduction to the world!
I'll add that I started school (first and second grade) in the American school there. Our teachers were Americans, but they had local assistants who taught us to sing in German a wealth of Christmas carols and folk songs, how to count, the German alphabet, colors, clothing, body parts, and other basic things. I can still sing many of the things I learned, but they would probably sound all wrong to you, because for me it's just rote memory from a loooooooooong time ago.
Quote from: Level6 on November 27, 2021, 17:13
Well, that's a different perspective, so some are still making living off SSTK?, that's good to hear, I left them a few months ago, sales went from $800/month to around $12/month if that.
Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 06:51Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 16:44
Maybe cuteness. Or schema of childlike characteristics. ...
Basically, it's about the fact that babies - whether human or animal - are perceived as cute by everyone. Big googly eyes, round soft shapes, small nose, overall very small face relative to the size of the head, so childlike proportions.
Wilm, I got curious and dug around a bit on the internet. Turned up this blog... from Shutterstock, of all places!
SS refers to it as "the cute factor," as opposed to "cuteness" (which is what sounds best to me). But either way, it's exactly as you described it above.
https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/the-cute-factor-why-were-obsessed-with-pictures-of-babies-and-animals
Quote from: marthamarks on November 27, 2021, 04:33Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 16:44
Thank you very much, Martha!
You're very welcome! I just wish I could speak or write your language (whatever it is) as well as you write (and probably speak) mine.
Quote from: marthamarks on November 26, 2021, 16:24Quote from: Wilm on November 26, 2021, 07:20Quote from: marthamarks on November 26, 2021, 04:02Quote from: Wilm on November 25, 2021, 21:12
the child's scheme,
That's a brand-new term/concept to this old timer. Can you explain a bit about it?
Thanks!
Hello Martha,
you probably know this, but I translated it badly. I don't know exactly how it is correct in English.
Maybe cuteness. Or schema of childlike characteristics.
It is not easy for me to describe it accurately in English.
Basically, it's about the fact that babies - whether human or animal - are perceived as cute by everyone. Big googly eyes, round soft shapes, small nose, overall very small face relative to the size of the head, so childlike proportions.
Nature designed babies this way to activate our protective instinct.
In addition to human babies, this also applies, for example, to puppies, kittens, chicks, etc.
In product design, the VW Beetle could be mentioned as a design example. Or the teddy bear. In graphic design, the Mario Brothers from Nintendo or anime characters are an example.
Thank you for that, Wilm! I get it now.
And yes, you're right. There seems to be a universal human reaction to the "cute, helpless little" baby, puppy, kitten, etc. Maybe it's an evolutionary thing that helped to keep the big and powerful from destroying their own young.
The term Americans use is "the cuteness factor." The Brits and Aussies may have another term for it, but that's ours.
And actually, you did very well in describing it!!!
Quote from: marthamarks on November 26, 2021, 04:02Quote from: Wilm on November 25, 2021, 21:12
the child's scheme,
That's a brand-new term/concept to this old timer. Can you explain a bit about it?
Thanks!
Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 25, 2021, 19:19
Microstock is not fine art photography, it is useful images. Sure better quality and photography will make the images more attractive, but content is #1.
As for forum advice, I could post my best selling image and ask why it doesn't get downloads and get a half dozen replies explaining what's wrong with it.
We are different, see different, shoot and edit, design and styles are personal, interests vary, and that's good.