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« on: February 20, 2021, 19:52 »
Make no mistake the Microstock business will be part of this.
I don't think too many of us should wish for this. Just think: how many microstockers are able to make a minimum monthly wage now? If through some absurd regulation, all microstock agencies will be obligated to consider their contributors as employees, the natural consequence will be massive "layoffs", since they will only afford to pay very few of us a minimum wage, not to mention other mandatory benefits. Firing let's say 95% of the contributors will also translate in culling the database by similar amounts, since they will not be allowed to sell the work of non-employees. The price asked from customers will skyrocket in order to be able to pay a critical mass of contributors their legal minimum wage. This will also drastically reduce the demand since fewer customers will be able to afford the new prices. The income for all agencies will decline rapidly. Smaller agencies like DT, DP, 123RF will go bankrupt. So... think twice before wishing the end of this industry.
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« on: February 04, 2021, 18:50 »
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Please review the information, including the FAQ before taking any action.
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-Mat
Hi Mat, I receive a notification email with all the instructions, but it doesn't contain the 24 alpha-numeric code. When I click on the blue banner after I log in to the portal, the new page is asking for the code I don't have. Will it be provided through a second email? Edit: there is something that looks like a 24 alpha-numeric code in the URL, I tried to copy it, but the redeem button is still grayed out Edit 2: I tried with Microsoft Edge and the code embedded in the URL worked after I was asked to log in and approve the login on my phone. Maybe it works on Chrome as well, but probably, one needs to logout and login again.
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« on: January 15, 2021, 12:33 »
he cant even speak properly.
Biden's vocabulary is many times richer than Trump's, whose vocabulary never evolved beyond the level of a 10 year's old. Actually, Trump's uneducated, limited vocabulary is very likely one of the reasons many voted for him. It's rather ironic to see Trump's voters mocking Biden's speech  Besides, Biden has overcome the challenges of the stutter he was born with: "In school, they called him Stutterhead and taunted him with H-H-H-H-Hey, J-J-J-J-J-Joe B-B-B-B-Biden. He felt shame and embarrassment and was afraid people would think something was wrong with him. Early on, he learned who the bullies were and plotted his revenge" .... There will be a moment, maybe two, on Tuesday night when Bidens eyes will flutter, his lips will purse, and millions of people will hold their breath waiting for a sentence! Fear not, for candidate Biden learned long ago, from little boy Biden reciting Yeats in front of a mirror, how to slow down, adjust his cadence, and roll with the words. ..."
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« on: January 14, 2021, 08:36 »
This is the Beeb's Reality Check, which is more or less what I'm seeing elsewhere, but I'm probably in a media 'echo chamber': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55572805
What a bunch of freaks.
An unecessary double negation
830
« on: January 12, 2021, 16:00 »
If these ignorant guys take their arms could be a good thing in some way.
Out of the streets for a long long time in the USA (or dead). The National Guard and the Police are prepared now. No jokes at this time.
Honestly, give their level of competence shown so far, just take the warning labels off hot coffee and chainsaws, and this problem will go away soon enough.
edit to add: There is a report (no longer able to substantiate it) that a post on Parler asked people to list their names, addresses, and "crimes" they may have committed so that DJT could pardon them later.
And they did!!!!
Not sure it's real, but it could be a funny prank, indeed. Here is the alleged post:  But please be aware that there are some obviously fake letters attributed either to Trump or Pelosi circulating on the internet. So this one could easily be fake too.
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« on: January 12, 2021, 14:10 »
A helpful tool I borrowed from a friend:
"Huge numbers of our population believe in a complete alternate reality. Alternate facts as it were. But just as intensely as I believe they are deluded, they think I am the one who is deluded. Maybe I am. So how can I be confident in my perception? It can be quite difficult.
I have found when in times of political confusion, particularly when emotions are running high and creating tunnel vision, the presence of * can be an extremely helpful indicator.
If I am attending a local demonstration or event and I see *neo-*, casual *, master race *, or the latest-whatever-uber-mythology-*, I figure out which side they are on. And if they are on my side of the demonstration? I am on the wrong side.
It is tough to argue moral equivalence when I am standing next to a Nazi.
Look to my right. Is there a guy wearing a "6MWE" (6 million wasnt enough) t-shirt? I am on the wrong side.
Look to my left. If that guy is wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" t-shirt? Wrong side.
Are speakers being applauded for referring to things that Hitler got right? Wrong side.
Team-spirit face paint and hat with animal horns? This is actually an unclear indicator that could mean anything, but safest to keep my distance from that guy anyway, even at a football game.
However, I can always, always, always rely on the presence of * as a guiding light through a fog of disinformation.
Some things are relative, and politics can absolutely have its opposing sides and grey areas. But evil and good are absolute.
So, just look for the *, and make your own decisions."
***Feel free to copy/forward/share
Agreed, but in the name of accuracy, there is a minor exception that doesn't diminish the validity of the litmus test proposed above. Although the Proud Boys were a prominent group involved in the Capitol riot, that 6MWE "proud boy" was not photographed at this event: https://forward.com/fast-forward/461761/fact-check-the-6-million-wasnt-enough-shirt-wasnt-from-the-capitol-siege. See attached, the same photo published on the ADL site back on December 24th On the other hand, that Camp Auschwitz guy was there, indeed, alongside other * and QAnon nutjobs.
832
« on: January 11, 2021, 08:54 »
They murdered an innocent white woman, who was in our military service by shooting her. She wasn't armed, didn't throw rocks or bottles of burning fuel wasn't harming anybody or looting. She was just a protester. I'm upset that this forum supports racist murder and misogamy.
Equal rights for everyone.
Her death is so sad, indeed! But here is the clip showing how she died, when she was the first to jump through the door broken by the angry mob, before being shot. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/investigations/video-shows-moments-leading-up-to-fatal-capitol-shooting-on-jan-6/2021/01/08/b7bd8f45-1250-463e-b73f-d218b39e7ed0_video.htmlAs you can see she was far from being innocent, she was not "just a protester". An unnecessary death caused by an irresponsible president, who asked his brainwashed followers to march to the Capitol, to fight and show a piece of their mind to those senators.
833
« on: December 02, 2020, 20:42 »
Another big one! Same price and same usage as the previous big one, shown above, on the 1st page
834
« on: November 23, 2020, 09:58 »
A few days ago:
835
« on: November 22, 2020, 00:20 »
Nobody?
836
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:23 »
Is anyone familiar with "Ungraded": https://ungraded.video/ ? It seems like a good idea, but I'm not sure how reliable they are.
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« on: November 03, 2020, 10:55 »
Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!
Steve
I am pretty certain that those skies are labeled for commercial reuse meaning that you can reuse a photo in any way, even commercially.
That isn't applicable to the stock question. You don't have the rights so you couldn't use them in a stock submission. You could use them to make a pamphlet or a billboard or something.
From the SS Submission and Account Guidelines: You must own or control the copyright to all content you submit to Shutterstock. This means that you cannot submit work obtained from other sources (e.g., online image search results or websites), or incorporate such work into your content submissions, unless you have permission to do soTherefore the restrictions are not absolute, and as I said, I am pretty certain that both Adobe and Skylum, secured those rights and permissions for their customers.
838
« on: November 03, 2020, 10:04 »
Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!
Steve
I am pretty certain that those skies are labeled for commercial reuse meaning that you can reuse a photo in any way, even commercially.
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« on: October 06, 2020, 20:13 »
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840
« on: August 24, 2020, 14:42 »
I only have 100 files left at iStock, so my total for the Connect section was only 14sales and 2 cents! I assume that's the section you're talking about because the royalty free section, for me, doesn't have those teeny-tiny numbers
But the way they report the royalties shows how individual numbers and averages can appear off, largely because of the tiny numbers that often round to 0 but are meaningful when you add up all the connect sales & then round the total.
So my connect sales gross was $0.15827 and the net royalty $0.02379 - i.e. 2 cents. But three of the items listed individually rounded to 1 cent so I initially though they'd "cheated" me of 1 cent 
Looking at the text file I could see where the 2 cents came from - and those 14 sales average to 0 cents too
Download the connect text file and stick it into Google sheets and you'll be able to see the details of this wretched situation
Yes. This is it! Thanks for the clarification! We actually have to download from Getty and upload to TodayIs20 two files every month, the regular file AND the Connect file. Funny to see that my Connect file for July had about 400 downloads totaling less than $2 with $0.00 RPD  . Almost 300 of these Connect DLs are displayed with $0.00, most likely because the 3rd digit is trimmed. This is probably the reason why I still see 16c difference between Getty and Todayis20, probably because of 3rd digit trimming.
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« on: August 21, 2020, 09:38 »
Anyone else notice a small difference between the Today is 20 figure and the Istock figure?
Yes, there are differences, sometimes significant. Todayis20 is always showing less than the Getty summary. My median delta is -$4.5. Here is it for the past year, in percentages:
842
« on: June 26, 2020, 13:21 »
Just got an email! Woohoo!!! Then I read it.... 58c. Seem to be aiming to give SS a run for their money. Think I'll disable sales there. They used to be good.

Thanks for the notification. Yep, 500px used to be very good. Since late 2014, I made almost $6k from a few hundred photos only. Now they are just a shadow of their former glory: about $12 this May. Min 9c, max $3.44
843
« on: June 19, 2020, 10:13 »
To sue you would have to show damages. SS gave you fair warning they were dropping payment to you the seller . Yes they drooped payment to almost zero. No one forced you to stay and get almost no money. I see no damages. I do see a company that is bad...but no damages.
What about people working for SS being payed under minimal hour wage and SS selling their work in your market?
Do you see the damage now ?
If you are talking about us the contributors, we are not working for SS, we are working for us and using SS service to sell our work. Minimal hour wage has nothing to do here.
I say it does.
If we would just use SS to sell our work we would be able to determine the prices of our work and yet the prices are determined by SS so they are clearly in charge here setting standards and defining rules.
One can then more accurately say that SS is running a platform in which instead of employees they are using freelancers for their main product production which they pay in royalties in a way that potentially decreases minimal wage in the industry. If someone in NY wants employ people in the same niche and compete with SS he stand against unfair competition in which SS (or similar paying agencies) product providers potentially work for less than minimal wage. If that someone can prove that, he clearly has a legal case. And that one has all parameters to calculate that beside how many images can an average contributor produce, process, keyword, upload and categorize in an hour so I guess an union can be used to legally determine that standard.
Also you say you sell your work at SS. Even so, you can not legally offer your work under minimal wage. Again someone just has to prove you are not able to earn minimal wage at your work time and you are undercutting real worker illegally. Not only SS. You directly.
That is the law in almost every country that has minimal wage.
Nope. It doesn't. We are not employed by SS, nor by AS, nor by any other agency. Just imagine what could happen if an agency is forced to pay a minimum wage to all contributors. Such an agency will be forced to "fire" probably more than 95% of the contributors, who are making less than ~$1,260/month on average. In other words, only a selected few, elite contributors will earn enough to justify staying "employed". Are you in this category? Because it's rather likely that you will also be part of the contributors NO agency will afford to work with anymore. Smaller agencies, like DT, 123RF, DP will most likely disappear, since they will not be able to afford any contributors paid at minimum wage. This also means that, after "firing" 95% of the contributors, the database will shrink down to virtually nothing, the price per download will go through the roof since the image offering and competition will be hugely reduced. Many small businesses relying on microstock for their blogs, advertisement, etc, will not be able to afford those prices anymore and many will go bankrupt, generating a ripple effect way beyond the microstock ecosystem. The law of unintended consequences will strike you back harder than you can imagine.
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« on: June 10, 2020, 12:23 »
End of the month I'll look for another simple, up down thread without the complicated and intricate math.
Nothing complicated. Just use a spreadsheet to process your datas. No need for a master in physics !
I am curious what method you used to get the number of video sales and the number of SODs above a certain level, without manually going through 100 pages of sales. Do you have a web scrapper able to automate the task and do that nice and easy? Because if you do that manually and find it easy, then your number of sales is too low to add any significance to the conclusion.
845
« on: June 08, 2020, 18:39 »
Level 5 photo, level 3 video. Here are the SS RPDs for 2020, all-inclusive (since it will take too long to remove the EL, videos, large SoDs, one by one)
Jan $1.55/DL Feb $1.30/DL Mar $1.02/DL Apr $1.65/DL May $1.51/DL
Jun $1.14/DL
Therefore, June is 18% worse than the average RPD of the previous months. However, March was way below my normal values. Without considering the exception of March, the RPD dropped by 24%.
But I also feel that June is a "good month", so far (from the DL number and DL type point of view) therefore the real average RPD loss must be larger than 24%
Thanks for your input, but the reason I set these "rules" as to exclude video and calculate w/ and w/o EL's in images was to be able and find as clean results as possible in all this mess. My last thread coulnd't do that and I already had some people post data. From that first data, we gathered a generic average of -33% ... but it was wrong, as it came from many different levels and also polluted with EL's (like my sample for example). My ultimate purpose is to start finding common patterns in this. And find the particular spot in statistics, that the -% in rpd stops being a mere fluctuation (like you had in March) and where it shows that it starts being the new rule of the game. I hope you understand and that you can provide some more accuracy in your data in the requested format. Regards.
I am not going to sift through 6k sales to eliminate videos and high photo sales manually. My videos and high photo sales are not lucky exceptions, but a regular predictable matter.
What matters is the total reduction of RPD, not just the analysis of a subset of the data.
For you what primarily matters is of course the stats you provided, absolutely no disagreement on that. But in the spreadsheet we are compiling in this thread, the ultimate purpose is for all data to have a way into merging together, ultimately to create global averages. Video sales at this point are polluting the generic result we are trying to give. If you can't bother deducting the whole categories from your month in sales and in dl numbers, ok then don't do so. You can sit back and wait for someone else that will like the rest. Take care.
As you see fit. But when your goal is to achieve statistical relevance, you can't leave out of the equation statistically relevant parameters. As I said, large SoDs, ELs, and video sales are not random nor lucky, but rather predictable. I know with a high probability when I can expect an EL, a large SoD, or a video sale. They systematically appear after a certain number of subs. They are part of the whole system. You can't leave them out. Especially not, when you deal with large numbers. Leaving them out will only lead to flawed analysis and misleading conclusions. But anyway... good luck in your endeavor!
846
« on: June 08, 2020, 16:03 »
Level 5 photo, level 3 video. Here are the SS RPDs for 2020, all-inclusive (since it will take too long to remove the EL, videos, large SoDs, one by one)
Jan $1.55/DL Feb $1.30/DL Mar $1.02/DL Apr $1.65/DL May $1.51/DL
Jun $1.14/DL
Therefore, June is 18% worse than the average RPD of the previous months. However, March was way below my normal values. Without considering the exception of March, the RPD dropped by 24%.
But I also feel that June is a "good month", so far (from the DL number and DL type point of view) therefore the real average RPD loss must be larger than 24%
Thanks for your input, but the reason I set these "rules" as to exclude video and calculate w/ and w/o EL's in images was to be able and find as clean results as possible in all this mess. My last thread coulnd't do that and I already had some people post data. From that first data, we gathered a generic average of -33% ... but it was wrong, as it came from many different levels and also polluted with EL's (like my sample for example). My ultimate purpose is to start finding common patterns in this. And find the particular spot in statistics, that the -% in rpd stops being a mere fluctuation (like you had in March) and where it shows that it starts being the new rule of the game. I hope you understand and that you can provide some more accuracy in your data in the requested format. Regards.
I am not going to sift through 6k sales to eliminate videos and high photo sales manually. My videos and high photo sales are not lucky exceptions, but a regular predictable matter. What matters is the total reduction of RPD, not just the analysis of a subset of the data.
847
« on: June 08, 2020, 13:42 »
Level 5 photo, level 3 video. Here are the SS RPDs for 2020, all-inclusive (since it will take too long to remove the EL, videos, large SoDs, one by one)
Jan $1.55/DL Feb $1.30/DL Mar $1.02/DL Apr $1.65/DL May $1.51/DL
Jun $1.14/DL
Therefore, June is 18% worse than the average RPD of the previous months. However, March was way below my normal values. Without considering the exception of March, the RPD dropped by 24%.
But I also feel that June is a "good month", so far (from the DL number and DL type point of view) therefore the real average RPD loss must be larger than 24%
848
« on: June 05, 2020, 15:12 »
This is what happens when the wealthy move in on the talent and steal the assets.
American companies are renowned for this in the UK, over the years they have moved into loads of companies and asset stripped them.
Their usual exit plan after a couple of years, is once they have taken everything that isn't nailed down, they flog off what is left to the management and a couple of years later the company goes bust. The American company Blackstone did this to a Company called Southern Care Homes, they sold all the freeholds and then sold the company having walked away with many millions. When they had to pay rents the business became unsustainable, by that time Blackstone was long gone.
The British Government ended up having to bail them out, otherwise they would have had over twenty thousand old people with nowhere to live.
We have a long list of American Companies doing this over here in the UK and our Government does nothing about it, and this is apart from them offshoring the tax they owe, like Amazon and Google.
Personally I believe that the American system of Capitalism seems to have become corrupted, mostly they act like the Mafia in a Martin Scorsese film.
Shutterstock shareholders are doing exactly the same at the moment, they are asset stripping the creatives.
It is the ordinary people who's lives they destroy that is the real travesty.
It's called crony-capitalism and it's a perversion of Capitalism as it should be. It's a perversion created by government interference in the economy, by regulations enacted to protect the sponsors of the government from too much internal and external competition. The lack of competition leads to pseudo-monopolies and price gauging. These days, it is even meant to directly protect the wealth of the people running the government and their private businesses. One of the most glaring recent examples of government overreach is a regulation dedicated to penalize private companies "daring" to label presidential statements as inaccurate. That's not Capitalism as it should be.
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« on: June 03, 2020, 10:46 »
They are also deleting posts on the forum.
This is what, in our marvelous liberal democrat society, we call freedom of speech
Just a small clarification: the freedom of speech is meant to protect us against an abusive government. A private company is something very different. What SS did was expected. It shouldn't be a surprise for anyone. It's their forum and their rules. It also happened before this royalty debacle. Members using abusive language were suspended or banned. It also happens, granted less often, on this forum as well. A private forum has nothing to do with any liberal or illiberal societies because a private company is NOT a democracy. Even on this forum, it is very much advisable to stay as anonymous as possible if one intends to criticize an agency, without wishing to leave it.
850
« on: May 29, 2020, 09:35 »
Sorry for being made redundant, man! I hope that it's only a temporary setback.
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