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I know how it's like to be reviewer, so I know that if you look at images 100% you can't make such mistake. This is one of images that was rejected at FT. It is already most popular image in my port, even tho its uploaded seveal days ago. It's of course accepted at IS, DT and all other sites I work with. And I am sure no one can say this is not stock worthy image.






852
IS apparently don't think these images are poor quality, which is much more important to me... :)

853
iStockPhoto.com / Re: everything in the world is copyrighted
« on: March 01, 2010, 04:40 »
I actually don't have problems with IS rejections lately. My acceptance ratio moves up every month. The only thing that I can't understand sometimes is artifacting. Sometimes I simply can't find what the reviewer saw as artifact. I'm starting to think it's a halo that appears sometimes around very bright objects...
Otherwise, I'm fine with IS rejections....which I can't tell for Fotolia...

854

Hmm, let me see what math says.

If you have 6 borderline images, you got exactly 36 combinations for them to be accepted. Let me list you some combinations:
1. everything rejected
2. only first accepted
2. only second accepted
3. only third accepted....

...

10. first three accepted
11. 2,3,4 accepted...and so on
so, that's 36 combinations. Which means, there is a probability of 1/36=0.02777 to be accepted only one combination...which is my case.
That doesn't support your theory.

that is 2.77% 


I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with your maths theory which, by the way, happens to be incorrect. You're forgetting that each image (i.e. digit) has two possible options (approved/rejected) so the total number of combinations is actually 64. It's basic binary stuff;

http://www.mathsisfun.com/binary-combinations.html

Anyway, keep doing your maths if it helps maintain your delusion that's there's nothing wrong with your images ... and keep on getting the rejections ... and keep on starting threads like this saying how stupid the reviewers are ... and keep on ignoring any advice ...


If it's 64 than it's even less possible that they FT accepts exactly the same image that was rejected at SS. I actually never said reviewers are idiots. Those are your words that you try to put in my mouth, and you said it twice. Anyway, I am sorry I hurt your feelings. ;) Some reviewers are my friends and they know exactly what I'm talking about.
I don't know what's your problem gostwyck, but you should work on it. If I am your problem, just don't read my posts and don't comment. When everyone is talking about inconsistency in Fotolia's reviews, you are the only smart guy in this world who will attack me again (you already did it few times before) because I made a comment about it. You even put the word "idiot" in my mouth. Remember that your words talk only about you.
If you remember, long ago I asked you to stop attacking me. There is a nice "ignore" button, very convenient for guys like you who can't stand others, and you will never see my posts, so your days will be brighter. :) At least I will know that I made someone happy. :)
Also, if you like it so much, if you enjoy trying to bring me down, if ti makes you horny...or whatever, go for it! I won't press "ignore" button, you will know that I read your posts, and you will hopefully enjoy. So, your days will be brighter again.
I think this was my final word to you.
Have a nice evening!
Ivan

855
Is it really possible that 6 images are so in borderline, that one agency accepts 5 and rejects 1, and the other agency rejects the same 5 and accept the only rejected image from the first agency? Theoretically it is possible, but practically....the probability is very low. I would accept this theory even if SS accepted all 6, and FT accepted only 1. I would just say that FT has much more strict rules. But my case is a paradox. 

It's not 'a paradox' at all. The fact that every single image was rejected by one agency or the other suggests strongly to me that your work is considered borderline.

If you've ever been a reviewer you would know that 95% of images are very easy to make a decision on because they are either very good or very bad. It's the other 5% that are tricky because you could make a decision either way. Your images may even be borderline on a number of issues such as technical quality, composition and saleability of subject and every agency will tend to be harsher or more relaxed on each issue. Individual photographers also tend to be fairly consistent in the quality that they produce too, mostly all very good, mostly all very bad or mostly all borderline. Being a reviewer can be a very educational experience, even for just a few weeks.

The truth is, if you submit technically good, well composed images with reasonable sales potential then you will hardly ever get any rejections. It's not a lottery and the reviewers aren't all idiots, it is 99% down to the contributor.

Hmm, let me see what math says.

If you have 6 borderline images, you got exactly 36 combinations for them to be accepted. Let me list you some combinations:
1. everything rejected
2. only first accepted
2. only second accepted
3. only third accepted....

...

10. first three accepted
11. 2,3,4 accepted...and so on
so, that's 36 combinations. Which means, there is a probability of 1/36=0.02777 to be accepted only one combination...which is my case.
That doesn't support your theory.

that is 2.77% 

856
New Sites - General / Re: Fstockphotos
« on: February 27, 2010, 02:57 »
Wonder what the "F" means if you get my drift... ;)

:D Naughty naughty...

857
I'd see as paradox that FT accepted anything at all. If they decided to accept 1 - it is almost 17% probability to hit one rejected by SS, so nothing extraordinary :)

This theory is more acceptable.

858
Without seeing the images in question, it's hard to tell whether inspectors are crazy, or if the content is just borderline, easy to go either way.

Is it really possible that 6 images are so in borderline, that one agency accepts 5 and rejects 1, and the other agency rejects the same 5 and accept the only rejected image from the first agency? Theoretically it is possible, but practically....the probability is very low. I would accept this theory even if SS accepted all 6, and FT accepted only 1. I would just say that FT has much more strict rules. But my case is a paradox. 

859
Yes Lisa, exactly. I mean, What are we doing here? What is a good quality photo? Everything is loosing sense. I don't know if any of you saw the experiment with art critics and paintings painted by elephants?
Actually, elephants are trained to take a brush, to dip it in the paint, and to paint on a canvas. Later, two groups of art critics are called to review the art pieces made by elephants. First group of critics was told that paintings are made by elephants, and second group was told that paintings are maid by well known abstract artist. Everyone in the first group agreed that paintings have no artistic value, and said that paintings are just random blotches of color without any sense. But critics in the second group saw lots of "emotions" in these paintings, lots of anger and fear...and they agreed that images are excellent works of art.

I think it shouldn't be so hard to say which photograph is really poor quality, and which is not. At least, this should be easy for stock photography. There should be some real rules about technical quality of the photo. Or, if there are such rules, they should be followed by reviewers...or some reviewers should be checked from time to time from someone who really knows the job.
We are uploading lots and lots of images, to see literally random rejections. No one can make even a close prediction what will actually be accepted, and what not. Problems with 123RF rejection type "poor lighting/composition" made me stop uploading there. I simply don't want to loose my time uploading when I have last 4 batches rejected for the same reason, like I don't know how to adjust lighting.
 

860
:) Yes, donding, the same with me. And yes borg...but I think I never had such drastic example.

861
Ok, I uploaded 6 images.

Shutterstock accepted 5 and rejected 1 image for poor quality, and Fotolia rejected the same 5 that Shutterstock accepted and accepted the same 1 image Shutterstock rejected, again for poor quality.

I know reviewers are human beings, but.... it seems some standards should be reviewed first. :)

862
New Sites - General / Fstockphotos
« on: February 26, 2010, 12:46 »
I got this email today:



Hi there

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1. Your account is free
2. We offer a 40% commission on all your images, every time one is sold
3. We offer better visibility to your work

Go on! Sign up at http://www.fstockphotos.com, and we will inform you once your account has been activated. This could take up to 24 hours before you will be able to upload your images.

We'd like to see you join our rank of quality photographers.

The FStockphotos Team

863
Dreamstime.com / Re: Commission on EL's at Dreamstime
« on: February 25, 2010, 22:02 »
We are paid less and less as the time goes by, not only for EL, but for everything else. These days, when I sell something for $1 or more I'm happy because more than 90% of all sales fall into subs category.

864
Hi Donna,
Don't let evil people put you in this state of mind. In life, you can find very few real friends. Try to find some of them here, and stick to them. Why would you let someone who is miles away from you hiding behind a nickname, typing on his keyboard to spoil your day.

865
General Stock Discussion / Re: Categories
« on: February 23, 2010, 21:31 »
yes

866
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Live Help?
« on: February 22, 2010, 21:40 »
I met the same person guy at live help on Thinkstockphotos and Pumpaudio :) Seems like they have several persons in live help for all Getty sites

867
Thank you donding :) Actually, I am pretty worried because 123RF is not bad seller for me.

868
Veer / Re: 9 sales today at Veer
« on: February 22, 2010, 17:36 »
Congrats! Wish you many more! ;D

869
Veer / 9 sales today at Veer
« on: February 22, 2010, 17:29 »
I just checked my Veer account and I saw that I had 9 sales today! My last sale before this boom was 15 days ago... Anyone else?

870
And again.... whole batch... Also, the same batch is 100% accepted at IS. I emailed support... I'm waiting now.

871
Oh my...where should I start? :D

872
Cutcaster / Re: FTP Problems
« on: February 18, 2010, 04:01 »
John, I still can't upload using CuteFtp, so I tried to upload images using web based upload. But it seams that all uploaded images finished the same moment in rejected, and there are no thumbnails...Is it possible?

873
Veer / Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
« on: February 17, 2010, 00:43 »
Cooooooooooooool! :) Congrats! I wish you many more!

874
iStockPhoto.com / Strange rejection due to deleted keywords...
« on: February 11, 2010, 20:12 »
Hi guys,
I got 2 images rejected at IS due to keywords. But, what is strange is that those words weren't in tags. My workflow is:
1. Keywording image in image editing program
2. Loading image into DeepMeta
3. Correcting keywords and deleting inappropriate keywords
4. Uploading images to IS

Now, even tho I deleted some keywords in DeepMeta I got images rejected exactly because of this keywords... When I open rejected image on IS I can't see problematic words, and when I check the image in DeepMeta there is no these problematic words. But they exist in original IPTC data of the image.
Is it somehow possible that words from IPTC pass DeepMeta even tho they are erased, don't appear on IS website, but appear at reviewers workstation and cause rejection of the image??

Regards,
Ivan

875
General Stock Discussion / Re: Who cares they closed StockXpert?
« on: February 11, 2010, 18:21 »
I miss StockXpert too...

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