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Severe website problems yet again currently.  For most peoples ports anything except popular produces a database error.

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SS just fell off a cliff for me the last three months.  May, June and now July are all down 50% or more from last year.  My earnings in all three months are lower than for the same months in any year since 2007.  It's mostly the lack of ODs and high-value SODs that are making the difference.  Those sales have dropped dramatically during those three months.  Makes me wonder what's going on...

That's identical to what I'm seeing.  The drop of for me was the night of May 17th (yes it was that sudden and obvious).  Since then my total numbers are down a bit but it's the near complete lack of ELand high value SODs hugely reducing the income.  Even ods are lower.  Nearly all my sales from the last 2.5 months are subscription.
I went from two record months in a row to two of the worst in years literally overnight.

Other sites are fairly stable and unchanged from average.  123 and IS slightly up.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
« on: July 21, 2014, 09:24 »
I was stuck in the middle of typhoon Haiyan last year. Got some aftermath photos and eventually with batteries and dodgy internet got them onto some stock sites and Flickr.  I got a load of requests from places all stating "no budget" asking for freebies.  These destitute agencies were ones such as Fox news, msnbc, international red cross and banks.
All the photos were on microstock so not bank breaking for them.
Some of the requests I noticed later had licensed the images from stock so I guess they try for free first before paying.
The USGS is another one that had no budget for a large print run information brochure.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: standards at IS
« on: July 21, 2014, 09:14 »
IS now seem to accept absolutely anything provided every tiny bacteria in the shot is model released.  I'm actually not sure now how to get something rejected.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Login problem
« on: July 21, 2014, 09:12 »
Something has changed.  My android based stock sales apps can no longer sign in and the web based one goes to an initial different url before redirecting now.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Good time to upload right now
« on: July 14, 2014, 20:16 »
Back to 24hrs or so now.

882
If they want to raise technical standards, then they should raise composition standards as well. People complain how IS went on reviews, but this is not different or it's even worse as all this effort doesn't even accomplish the goal which is to have a good looking collection.

Do you REALLY want reviewers who (i) can't even colour profile their own screen or judge exposure consistently who (ii) get paid fractions of a cent per image now responsible for making the 100% subjective "composition" decision as well?  In other words, someone paid near nothing who can't judge more black and white criteria is now also deciding whether they like your image enough to approve or not.  I can see that causing much much worse chaos as its the personal preference and a whim of an individual you don't know who might have zero experience in your particular photo area.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: July 06, 2014, 10:24 »
Even if people still didn't do anything due to some football game, the match is over in 2 hours or so and in europe where the sport is more popular it's already after the working day finish.
There's no correlation anywhere in stats.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: July 06, 2014, 07:16 »
Not sure that you know so much about the football (soccer) culture in some countries

Plenty.  I live in one and have lived in several others.  You're still expected to attend wor and do work.  A game lasts 2 hours at most in a day and kick off times for large parts of the world are outside working hours.  There simply is no correlation with a one off event like that at all. 
People are over complicating this, look at the poll results for last year and look at your own personal stats for years before that.  It's an annual downward trend into the northern hemisphere summer months.  Nothing special or unusual about it.

SS is down more relative to others but can't blame that on sport or even july 4th so thats a separate problem but the historical data here and elsewhere shows a clear downward quiet trend for this 2-3 month period every single year.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: July 06, 2014, 06:18 »
I'm still amused how people seem to think a football match or small event is directly attributable to a days lack of sales.  Really, it's one game, it lasts 90-120 minutes.  Due to the times most of the world its outside working hours and generally, employers don't give people time off to watch sport on TV anyway!
Same for tennis.
Even if someone did sneak off to watch a game they'd do the work before/after the event - work still has to be done.

The vast majority of people worldwide aren't interested enough to stop working and/or can't stop working for a small, short lived sporting match.

As for July 4th (worship the french day, or should be!).  US sales making up 20% or so of profiles for lots of people so you'd expect a drop similar to that on that day (or whatever your share is if its higher) but that's it.  Obviously longer lasting public holidays such as christmas will have a much bigger effect as large chunks of the world all celebrate those which explains the usual dead 2 weeks around xmas time.

Look at the poll results for here, you can see a year behind and funnily enough, all agencies show exactly the same pattern and curve on the graph for these months.  In short,it drops in June, is worse in July into August then recovers into September.  It's a predictable trend in this period and nothing to do with a one off sporting event and so on.  People are on holiday, the schools are on holiday and generally there ARE fewer people doing work as its when most people tend to have annual leave in the northern hemisphere at least.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: July 05, 2014, 07:10 »
It's a theory that's easily testable if a few people from different registered locations want though.  Just needs people to run the same search on a cookie cleared browser at the same time and compare screen shots of popular and relevant.   Ideally contributor AND buyers to see if there is location bias on one or other side.
If you cleared cookies, would the site know if you were a contributor/buyer/neither?

Ideally you reset each time and try a test search as a non logged in user from different locations at the same time.  Then clear those cookies and log in, try the same etc.  In other words, clear them before each batch of tests (non logged in, logged in etc)

You'd need to clear at the end as cookies will store a search history or similar in some cases.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: July 05, 2014, 06:00 »

Independence Day in the U.S...nobody's working.

I don't know who these lot of people are that only have 20% US sales.  Maybe niche artists.  Mostly everyone I know and that posts seems to get 40 to 50% or more sales from US.  If you are not getting that market you are missing out on some good money.  Just not today.

Depends a lot on subject matter but also seems to depend somewhat on the geographical location of the submitter.  You can trigger different search results by checking from different places.  It's quite possible the algorithm has some sort of geographic weighting build into it.  Most people i know get between 20 and 25% US sales.  They *all* are in Europe.  The (admittedly fewer) people i do know that get significantly higher are registered and IN the Americas region.  And these are generic subjects not specific to certain areas and so on.

It's a theory that's easily testable if a few people from different registered locations want though.  Just needs people to run the same search on a cookie cleared browser at the same time and compare screen shots of popular and relevant.   Ideally contributor AND buyers to see if there is location bias on one or other side.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: July 04, 2014, 17:59 »
Independence Day in the U.S...nobody's working.

I hate to break it to you but Umerika is not the entire world  ;D

But it is enough of our customers to explain a sudden sales drop.  From the map at SS about half my sales are from U.S.

You can get an exact percentage of US vs non US by going to your "payment history".  A lot of people see roughly 20% US sales so no, one country having 1 public holiday really isn't or shouldn't have a huge effect!

889
Edit doesn't appear to work so i'll try here.

w3 schools is all platforms, the above stats are desktop only so more useful for plugins.  If you include mobile then Chrome will be well on top due to 80%+ of handsets being android

890
Where did you find those stats? They don't match what I'm finding at all.

Clikc for browser usage statistics


On the link i posted directly above them.

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Chrome.

The lack of a menu bar is to do with the standardisation used on Android - it's accessed via the = icon on the right.  Other non-google apps such as Thunderbird are following suit.

Browser wise, they stats are out there:-

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/windows-8-x-internet-explorer-both-flatline-in-june/

For desktops it's:

58% IE (various versions < shudder> )
19% Chrome
15% Firefox
5% Safari
1% Opera

892
Other than requiring a model release for any multi cellular invisible life form in the frame do IS actually reject ANYTHING at all now?!

893
With the ~24hr reviewing ive had quite a lot of batches lately and my reviews at least have been fair for quite a while now.  The stuff still isn't selling obviously but its getting accepted.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: June 27, 2014, 09:54 »
Another issue with comparisons is small portfolios can skew the results.

If you don't get many sales then 1 EL or high value SOD can make the difference between a worse month or best month.  A single high value SOD could be 300% a normal monthly income.

With bigger portfolios all this is smoothed so it takes a long more to show a deviation from average.  This is obviously a more accurate guide.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: June 27, 2014, 09:07 »
Love the replies- 'Worse month ever!'- 'Best month ever'   Like watching a tennis match and the ball keeps going over the net (Good Month- Bad Month)  8)

And the folks responsible for pulling the switch must be amazed that most of us do not see the reality of the situation.

Which might lend some credence to the portfolio rotation speculation going round.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: June 27, 2014, 07:28 »
Same, terrible month.

The total NUMBER of downloads for me is going to be only slightly below average. 
Due to the near complete lack of EL/SODs and even many ODDs though im going to be roughly $300 down on the monthly average for the year and its one of the worst months ive had since i started getting payouts (now with 10x the number of images as then).

So looking for me, its the *type* of download thats changed suddenly more than anything else.  Pretty much everything is subscription.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: June 24, 2014, 18:19 »
It's still dire money wise relative to normal but as people have noticed above the main difference im seeing is the reduction in EL, high value SOD and ODDs.

Nearly all my stuff is subscription and the few SODs i do have are small value (lots of *0.36 and $13 being the max).  Not a single EL this month.

Numbers wise it doesn't look too bad but the lack of anything above subscription is making it an absolutely horrendous month for earnings.

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They might have addressed some of the crazier reviews from my experience at least.  The last 2-3 weeks all the ones i've had i'd class as fair.  The rejections im getting i can agree with (or at least see their point) and images seem to be evaluated individually so no batch rejections for random reasons or lumps of rock needing a release.  That's been 7 or 8 reviews in a row totalling about 200 images for me all going normally.

Before that it was pretty much 100% reject with 1 reason or 100% acceptance even for ones that shouldn't for ages.

Maybe reviewers are getting new advice or retrained and the problem is slowly being corrected.  The number of poor reviewers might now be smaller.



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Still broken here.  Uploaded 5 images.  After submitting, 3 had thumbs, 2 didn't.

A while later the 2 without vanished completely from all queues.  This morning the surviving 3 have also lost their thumbnails.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Sales on Shutter
« on: June 18, 2014, 05:53 »
June looks to be down roughly 60% on the year average to date.  The slide that started quite literally overnight about 5 weeks ago is continuing.

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