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Just a note for St. Patrick's Day

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This is a runaway freight train.

its' clear as told many times,,most are coming from poor or semi poor country where cost of living let people earn 500 600 dollar and live. and we have not seeing nothing. in those country lives millions of people with a camera.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How is your March?
« on: March 17, 2017, 13:57 »
SS - On pace for BME.
FT - On pace for BME.
123RF - On pace for BME.
IS - No idea, haven't logged on in a while.
DT - On pace for 0 sales.

If you do 0 at DT, is your BME $10 at SS?

I only have a few dozen images on DT, compare to thousands on SS, FT and 123RF. DT has never been a big seller for me, so I don't waste my time uploading there. They also reject a good percentage of my work, so I stopped uploading.

If you want an idea of how much I make on SS, it's 4 figures per month.

i thought 6

appalling week t shutter stock....cleaaly they do something to share the cake between all customer...since monday sam number s of download zero sod zero sales after 15.....dreamstime today sold 5 photos for 35 dollar...not bad this year dreamstime seems more competitive. appalling fotolia also. if you stop uploading for 2 weeks the earning i see earning falling down.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: How is your March?
« on: March 17, 2017, 09:22 »
These kinds of threads are useless without figures

A best month or doing very well could be $10,000 $1,000 or $5 depending on the contributor's perspective

Very well here is, I am making my living and having saving too.

and buy a ferrari u forget


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General Stock Discussion / Re: How is your March?
« on: March 16, 2017, 11:08 »
i have the impression that some algorithm prevents me from selling more and more...th months started great plus 40% in the first day compared to febraury then 6 appalling days nothing sold after 14.00, while the three months before i sold practically only from 14 to 24....i understand something change but here it seems so programmed. anyway keep uploading the lot of things i still have to upload.
being positive,. i'm increasing other side of business so micro will be only a side kicks dollar

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 14, 2017, 13:28 »
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in my opinion you must visit country with small number of images and things covered...bulgaria is already heavily covered

North Korea!

sure you could sell more. but there are many countries. also most of country have basic landmark cover.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 14, 2017, 11:12 »
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you earn 400 dollar and you are happy....it seems so strange with such portfolio you can be happy of sales...

Yes, it depends on your expectations. Many come into this game expecting to make $10 RPI/year and this is just not possible anymore in Micros for 99% of cases.

I'll take $400 a month from 2700 portfolio but it still isn't enough to cover all my expenses, but it helps offset some costs.

Meanwhile, I'll look to milk what I can from my premium images (so far not happening but I'm optimistic).

Bulgaria must be a nice place, I would love to visit some of the resorts on the Black Sea and try out the beluga caviar!

in my opinion you must visit country with small number of images and things covered...bulgaria is already heavily covered

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 13, 2017, 17:50 »
today good start with 4 sod at waking uno than stopped completely after 14...im luckily buidlgina new business who let me cover all expenses in photos....micros is good for paying coffe in the morning and buy some lens.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 13, 2017, 17:48 »
I can't speak for others but I'm doing OK with my 2700 portfolio, but I do realise this is a losing game. I've long started looking for other options within Midstock/boutique.

I do travel photography and I can't recoup my costs for my travel with subs.

I want to try out video, I've heard good things about pond5.

well what means? i have 4700 and from what i see without any bad comment better looking images....and i cannot say it's good but maybe you earn 400 dollar and you are happy....it seems so strange with such portfolio you can be happy of sales...

959
Hello everybody,

After uploading my holiday and travel photos to microstock agencies for 3 months, I am rather disappointed by lack of sales - I guess I had false expectations.

I upload to 5-7 agencies, in December mostly holiday pictures from Nice, France and since January photos from my world tour (I travel for 8 months). I used this guide as orientation http://microstockinsider.com/guides/microstock-traveller-working-while-holiday. However I sold only 10 images, adding up to 4$ on Shutterstock and 2 on Dreamstime.

My question to you is whether you see potential to achieve better results with some adjustments or whether the type of photos are just not suitable for stock. In that case I would just continue photography for my leisure but save the annoying keywording and uploading process.

Thank you in advance for taking time, I appreciate your honest comments.
Markus


My current Shutterstock profile:
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/markus+faymonville

I also do upload to instagram, Facebook and tumblr - maybe these photos are more suitable? Https://www.instagram.com/the_wander_team
Https://www.facebook.com/jeannemarkusworldtour
Https://Faymonville.tumblr.com
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you should just keep the fir 10 images for popularity and trash the rest...the one with boat at sunset is good.
i have been to nice many years and have hundreds of photos of the cote d'azur.
in my opinion if you want to be a travel photographer you must only do this traveling, not having just fun and take some photos. travel photography means 16 hours work day, scouting location, shooting at best light. you shoot only at noon that's why your images have problems of light and exposure.
you need to buy some gradient filter or learn how to stack images.
personally i don't really understand why ss keep adding contributor if they don't show images who can add to the site but just images who can steal one two sales from other portfolio.

960
why would anyone buy your holiday photos? and if there is one category thats over saturated its travel

Well, travel pictures can sell VERY well, but of course, as you say, the category is incredibly oversaturated (18,000+ pictures of water buffalo, and if you've ever been to Venice, you know how many people visit and take pictures there every day).

Naturally, they have to be really good and done in the right way. The average beach or the average tree won't sell when faced against the competition. Also, try to include yourself in the images, do selfies when jumping off a cliff, or something POV style where you only see your hands paddling a kayak. That stuff sells. But not the average snapshot. You have to evoke emotion and invite the viewer into the image.

This is one of the best selling portfolios in the stock world: https://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/Maridav-97565/

and it's mostly travel/holiday stuff. But, includes people and is done in a way that you get a feeling you just want to go there and have an adventure yourself.

I would think more in terms of "travel lifestyle", than just "travel". Of course, if you find really nice landscapes in perfect light or great pictures of wildlife that sells too. But it has to be really good.

You have to plan and stage shots, create a world greater than reality unless it's something really special that would work as editorial.

Do a search for "sunset palm trees" and ask yourself why someone would buy YOUR picture...
this is a couple they shoot them since 2006. personally i find so boring their photo. cliche. if they sells good it won't be difficult to replicate their stuff. this is not travel is lifestyle, basic, and what surprises me it sells, it looks a style of 10 years ago.,
personally i sell only travel photos and the big problem of many people is that they shoot only landmark and not go deep in travel. they go always the same place. there are location oversaturated and other with minimum cover. for example very few editorial in travel cover different theme like hotel restaurant,people.
said this the portfolio linked at beginning is only made of snapshots i'm even surprised ss accepted them.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 08, 2017, 11:48 »
increasing the quality and number of upload is working for me...i had mostly editorial, in the last year i have seen that uploading is the key. i have still super big backlog to upload so no need to create but just upload.
i'm increasing download constantly since october..20% month....what i'm not seeing is the increase in sod and extended and this is the key for a good income. making 20k at month with 0,38 is becoming difficult:)

962
Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 07, 2017, 13:05 »
u are simply not understanding each other..shutterstock increase volume of sales and contributor..so it's normal a lot of old contributor experienced a fall in earning or better less growth. bigger cake divide by much bigger contributor.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: March 07, 2017, 07:11 »
"So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " if you had said "So are you in denial that MY SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " fair enough but there is no evidence that SS sales have fallen. Thats the point

He refer to contriboutor.

964

Math is easy...

U said double net income of 5000 dollar...is 5000*2=10000
Taxes: where i live and most of western country u pay for this kind of earning from 40% up...so to have a net of 10 u need a gross of at least 17-18... Maybe u live in subsaharian country and pay nothing of taxes.
:-X nevermind. Keep doing what you're doing.

u to:) no problem. but my math was correct:))

965
I realize you're talking about living well off of little money in many posts, but in general, when it comes to talking about income here it makes little sense to compare figures after tax since everyone lives in different countries.

When numbers are thrown around, it's what we get from the stock sites into our payment provider accounts. I don't care what you paid your mom's friend to model or what the tax rates in your particular country are. I care about how big the payouts are.

u are right. i just answered this guy. but no problems everybody is right...happiness!!

966
I don't know why people lie about it but they do. I wouldn't necessarily believe me either. Doesn't really matter. I would certainly check someone's basic math and knowledge of how revenue and profit works before taking them too seriously. I would also compare what they are saying about the industry with my own figures to see if there is any possibility that it makes sense.

Math is easy...

U said double net income of 5000 dollar...is 5000*2=10000
Taxes: where i live and most of western country u pay for this kind of earning from 40% up...so to have a net of 10 u need a gross of at least 17-18... Maybe u live in subsaharian country and pay nothing of taxes.

967
He makes $1 for every time you quote, double quote, and triple quote. So I guess he's a billionaire.
hahaha yes...he makes 200000 in a decreasing industry and still complain...u imagine...even yuri arcurs is facing hard time...

968
The numbers in this thread with regards to earnings and number of people doing it full time are way off.

sure they are much more...a lot of people eran net 5000..i doubt.
Well I don't think I am in the top 200 and make more than that profit. So there's that.

you make more than 5000 dollar net profit every month.ok.

strange i read you always complaining now you make more than 60k net..year. sure.
I make more than double that. Doesn't mean I have to like being shafted by the agencies.

so u are making what,...200000 dollar year sales?

969
The numbers in this thread with regards to earnings and number of people doing it full time are way off.

sure they are much more...a lot of people eran net 5000..i doubt.
Well I don't think I am in the top 200 and make more than that profit. So there's that.

you make more than 5000 dollar net profit every month.ok.

strange i read you always complaining now you make more than 60k net..year. sure.
I make more than double that. Doesn't mean I have to like being shafted by the agencies.

number of files?

970
The numbers in this thread with regards to earnings and number of people doing it full time are way off.

sure they are much more...a lot of people eran net 5000..i doubt.
Well I don't think I am in the top 200 and make more than that profit. So there's that.

you make more than 5000 dollar net profit every month.ok.

strange i read you always complaining now you make more than 60k net..year. sure.

971
The numbers in this thread with regards to earnings and number of people doing it full time are way off.

sure they are much more...a lot of people eran net 5000..i doubt.
Well I don't think I am in the top 200 and make more than that profit. So there's that.

you make more than 5000 dollar net profit every month.ok.

972
The numbers in this thread with regards to earnings and number of people doing it full time are way off.

sure they are much more...a lot of people eran net 5000..i doubt.

973

in poland with 1000 euro you can live a good life...

Good luck! Looks like you have no idea about the reality.
And to clarify - I come from a small town, now live in Warsaw for over 15 years... Please, don't tell me it's cheap and don't even compare with Ukraine. With full respect for my friends from that country.

is super cheap compared to europe...i don't know why u got upset...if you find expensive poland sweet don't go out your country you will starve...i travel poland many many times i know prices. is CHEAP.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&country2=Poland&city1=Ipswich&city2=Chrzanow

here you can compare any price for different cities. poland is half the cost of living of middle town in uk.
ukraine i said is much much cheaper...but poland is much cheaper than any city in europe. in italy where i live there are thousand of people from poland assisting unhealthy people at home...do you think they come in italy cause they earn good money in poland_one work in my home. and what she earn here is much much more than what she earned in poland.
with 1000 euro you can live normal life. if you say no you are dreaming cause medium salary in poland is lower.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&country2=Poland&city1=London&city2=Warsaw

You would need around 1,782.09 (8,884.99zł) in Warsaw to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,500.00 in London (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax). You can change the amount in this calculation.

and we are talking about a good style of life, going out often restaurant and all.

You would need around 1,233.11 (40,814.27₴) in Kiev to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,500.00 in London (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax). You can change the amount in this calculation.

this is for kiev...consider that i spent a lot of time in kiev i tell you that with 1300 pound you live a very good life compared to london.

3 4 times less cost of living...include that in poland and ukraine taxes are much lower...in kiev is 18% to 23 %....in italy much more than 50% sometimes for high income....and you see how microastock is sustainable only in less rich country.

974

in poland with 1000 euro you can live a good life...

Good luck! Looks like you have no idea about the reality.
And to clarify - I come from a small town, now live in Warsaw for over 15 years... Please, don't tell me it's cheap and don't even compare with Ukraine. With full respect for my friends from that country.

is super cheap compared to europe...i don't know why u got upset...if you find expensive poland sweet don't go out your country you will starve...i travel poland many many times i know prices. is CHEAP.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&country2=Poland&city1=Ipswich&city2=Chrzanow

here you can compare any price for different cities. poland is half the cost of living of middle town in uk.
ukraine i said is much much cheaper...but poland is much cheaper than any city in europe. in italy where i live there are thousand of people from poland assisting unhealthy people at home...do you think they come in italy cause they earn good money in poland_one work in my home. and what she earn here is much much more than what she earned in poland.
with 1000 euro you can live normal life. if you say no you are dreaming cause medium salary in poland is lower.

975
... it can be a good side revenue as in my case. rely only in micro it's impossible apart living in some country like ukraine russia poland or thailand...with cheap cost of production and plenty of models available for penny. in western world forget.

 ;D Lol... Tell me, please, what cost of living in Poland do you expect to make, I mean normal living? Base costs, not including models or travel tickets... How many $ would be enough for you, let's say in Warsaw?

in poland with 1000 euro you can live a good life...in france you don-t go out of home.
polish girl like 99% of eastern europe love being photographed so it-s pretty easy to find good people for lifestyle shot free or for cheap money. renting a studio in warsaw is cheap, in milan is 10 times more for example. i don-t even speak about cost of living. i go often in poland and i feel a king compared to where i live where a beefsteak cost 30 euro for example.

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