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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe has blocked my account
« on: Yesterday at 06:46 »
I ask them and got this generic answer. I don't know what else to do.

Does anyone knows how to contact Mat?

I have just sent you a PM.

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Average month for me - nothing special. But a little bit better than April 2023 and 2022.

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I confirm, something strange is happening with Adobe this week. Sales are even worse than Easter week. Normally I have well over 200 downloads a day, today barely 100

Absolutely impressing. May I ask how many images you have online at AS?

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Incredible!!!  >:(

If something like this goes through, copyright will be ruined forever!

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Have you submitted the raw data to shutterstock or made it clear there that you have it? Then that should solve the problem in my view. Unless, of course, you have photographically recreated someone else's photo 1:1.

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Almost a month ago, I received a notification from Shutterstock that one of my images was flagged for a copyright violation and my account was being suspended. They offered a few methods to supply proof that I'm the copyright holder of the particular image. Very quickly I sent the evidence to them and received a response that my case would be escalated. Since that time I have received no further communication, and all of my images have been removed from the site, and I can't log in to my account. They have ignored the many e-mails I've sent. It should take no more than 10 minutes to look at the evidence I submitted and conclude my account should be reactivated.

Has anyone been through this process before and what was the outcome? There was also no indication from Shutterstock why they thought there was a copyright issue in the first place.

Can you show us the image?

And do you have the raw data?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: May 03, 2024, 17:36 »
I had about 400 downloads less this April than in April 2023. Amazing, but the revenue is still almost the same. However, I'm very far from a good April.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: May 03, 2024, 17:21 »
Happy to report two events:

- Last month was my best April ever.
- My lifetime earnings crossed $400K

Congratulations on these figures! I know very, very few contributors who can achieve such success with such a small portfolio. They are my role models. And you, too, have remained true to your motto "rather less, but very good".

If I see it correctly, you have an RPF (return per file - images and videos mixed, with a ratio of approx. 4:1) of around $200. That's really good!

We can still argue about whether talent is part of it or not. I say yes, you say no. But ultimately it doesn't really matter. The fact is: you deliver "stocky" image material - and that pays off.

What I can't remember: Did I ever ask you how long you've been offering on microstock?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe has blocked my account
« on: May 03, 2024, 04:55 »
wanted to let you know that my account has been reactivated since today, so far without answer what the problem was.

I just kept waiting and fortunately everything is ok now. for me the issue is closed

thanks for the feedback and also to uncle Pete, soon I will use my own account here :)

That's nice to hear.

I wish you good sales!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 16:32 »
Pete, I'm looking at Alexandre Rotenberg's figures.

He has 3,000 files online at Wirestock. In March that earned him $7, in February $10, in January $4. In December and November 2023 it was $5 each.

Of course, I can't automatically transfer from Alexandre to other contributors. But his numbers suggest to me that Wirestock is not a good model.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 16:15 »

I have a similar view. The size of a portfolio is of course an important factor from a purely mathematical point of view.

Nevertheless, there have been and still are indications that an extremely fast and extensively growing portfolio does not automatically guarantee that the download figures and revenues will grow in parallel.

Of course, I don't know how the algorithms work. So I can only make assumptions. But I am firmly convinced that an extreme expansion of the portfolio with the pure goal of mass can even be very harmful for the findability of the images. I believe that a small portfolio with well-ranked images can be damaged if countless poor-quality images are added to it. But once again: I can't prove that.

With a similar point, people who say images need to age, to make better sales, are neglecting the math and fact, that you only know what sells, after the fact. So of course, after years, you will see what has sold more, than in weeks or months. The time is the difference, not because images will sell better, but because they HAVE sold better.

If we only know whether more images, made more sales, because there are more, or because the popularity of some images, which is hard to predict, is only because the cream rises to the top. I mean in this way. 100 great images and that's it, or 100 great images and 900 maybe, good enough images. If we know what a "great Image" is, then the only advantage would be, from the 900 others, we might have misjudged some, and they will make more total sales, than the just 100 images.  :)

Who here knows that this great image they just made is going to be a success, and has never been wrong? Or who here, has uploaded something, not so special, that probably wasn't going to work out, but it took off and unexpectedly sold.  Raise Your Hand?  ;D

Back to the great 100 theory. The other 900 may not be significant, but there could be a sleeper in there, and there could be a dud or two in the best 100.

That's the only reason I'd say more is better. Pure math. Otherwise, "Nevertheless, there have been and still are indications that an extremely fast and extensively growing portfolio does not automatically guarantee that the download figures and revenues will grow in parallel."

900 additional "maybe good pictures" is not what I generally mean, Pete. I have that too. I upload images that I could imagine have what it takes to sell. But I don't upload a single image that I'm absolutely sure is so bad or replaceable that it won't sell. And I'm wrong often enough.

There are so many images that everyone who uploads them knows or should know from the outset that they are "not good enough" compared to what is already there.

Nevertheless, many contributors hope that these images might sell after all, even though they secretly know or at least suspect that this will not happen, and upload masses of them. But the opposite is probably the case: these images may harm the overall ranking of the portfolio.

Doug sums it up well: "But each of those image you submit must be well-shot, well-graded, and have good metadata to even have a sporting chance of success."

This - at least in my opinion - is not sufficiently taken into account by many contributors.

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I also believe that shutterstock doesn't care about our personal opinion.

But I think that shutterstock is wondering whether the approval of pngs will bring in a lot of money for the competing agencies. And whether customers might migrate to the agencies that offer pngs. This may be an attempt to get an idea. And possibly get a slice of the pie.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: May 02, 2024, 15:22 »
But if yours is already longer on the market, and sold quite a few times (due to lower competition at that time) then the newer one will generally end up lower in the rankings, get less views, and yours will have the advantage. Right? (Of course, all depending on competition and saturation, as the algorithm mixes new content with established content. Niche markets are easier to break into than highly saturated area's of the market)

But now you are talking about something entirely different.  Yes, an older clip that has been successful and sold multiple times does have an advantage. But that has nothing to do with the overall size of the contributor's portfolio or how long the contributor has been a contributor.  That is the myth I was trying to dispel.  Please read my earlier post again, and I hope you can understand the difference.

But to address the point you are making, don't assume that the best-selling clip last year of a toddler eating spaghetti is going to continue to dominate year after year.  The algorithms are constantly trying to promote newer clips to keep the content fresh on the site.  In my own case, many of my clips that used to sell almost every day hardly ever sell at all anymore. Why is that?  Well, it is because other similar clips have probably pushed them off their pedestal. That's what competition does. And it has nothing to do with the size of the contributor's portfolio.  My point is that it is never to late to get your feet wet.  If you sit on the sidelines and say "it's too late", then you are guaranteed of 100% failure.

I have a similar view. The size of a portfolio is of course an important factor from a purely mathematical point of view.

Nevertheless, there have been and still are indications that an extremely fast and extensively growing portfolio does not automatically guarantee that the download figures and revenues will grow in parallel.

Of course, I don't know how the algorithms work. So I can only make assumptions. But I am firmly convinced that an extreme expansion of the portfolio with the pure goal of mass can even be very harmful for the findability of the images. I believe that a small portfolio with well-ranked images can be damaged if countless poor-quality images are added to it. But once again: I can't prove that.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: April 30, 2024, 17:36 »
Do what?  I have sales every day.

Reaching the $250,000 - that's what I meant. Or will you manage the 828 statistically missing downloads within two or three months? I don't know how long you've been at it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock is an embarassment
« on: April 30, 2024, 17:05 »
Let's see if you can still do it in 2024.

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I've only ever done microstock as a hobby on the side because of my job. My portfolio has therefore always remained very small.

I started with Fotolia in 2009, with Shutterstock at the end of 2010 and with istock in 2012. I also started with 4 other agencies at that time. Things went uphill until 2015/2016, since then it's been downhill.

Back then, in the best phase, it looked like this for me per month per 1,000 images on average:

- Fotolia/AS: $460
- Shutterstock: $600
- Istock: $200 - but I only had about 600 images there, so this would be about $330 for 1000 images
- 123rf: $75
- deposit: $75
- Dreamstime: $50

It was a lot of fun back then because you were motivated by the ranking systems. Unfortunately, Shutterstock had an upper limit of $10,000 and that was reached very quickly.
I definitely wouldn't want to miss that time. It was great!

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Now I have checked my RPD for istock. Only images, no videos.

2023 = 0,66
2022 = 0,58
2021 = 0,68
2020 = 0,60
2019 = 0,62
2018 = 0,65
2017 = 0,62

Not statistically usable, but still quite interesting:
01.2024 = 1,24
02.2024 = 1,09

For 03.2024 I can only say that I had 10% more downloads than in January and February.

03.2024 = 0,52   :(

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For the first time ever I had a download for $0,33 this morning. The race to the bottom has started

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: March downloads are up
« on: April 16, 2024, 16:35 »
Downloads slightly above average, revenue dramatically below average. In my case, the revenue is 40% compared to March 2023.

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For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Of course you may ask.  :)

I've uploaded 13 images in the last six months - so 2 images a month on average. I now have a total of 1567 on Adobe Stock. If you like, I have increased my portfolio by 0.8% in this six-month period. These images have generated a total of 11 downloads - an extremely unsatisfactory result. My hit rate used to be much better.

Nevertheless, as I have already written, the download figures are fairly constant.

And because the download figures are constant, but less money is coming in, there is a problem with the RPD.

Of course, I could upload significantly more, perhaps sell a little more and earn the same money at the end of the day. But that doesn't change the deteriorating RPD. If 1,000 sales used to bring in $ 1,200 and now only bring in $ 750, it's clear that the RPD is clearly trending downwards.

After all, I have just noticed that one of those 13 pictures - uploaded at the beginning of February - has now achieved 8 sales and has made it to page 1 of 8750 pages on the subject. Maybe there will be more sales to come...

this is because you are a long-standing first level contributor,so the sales system favors you.

I'm not an expert on how Adobe's sales system works but I've been following it carefully for several years.

If we take a photo of the same tomato,same exactly picture in all details,and we both send it at the same time for review,you are 90% more likely than me to sell it first,as for now.

if we repeat the experiment in a few years we will instead have 50%

as regards more specific contents,the situation is different.

how can I say it more clearly?your shop is open 24h a day or maybe 15h a day on average mine is open at the moment 3h a day on average(I don't know,it's just an example)

of course it is important what content you have for sale,but it is also important whether you have the favor of the sales system,something that is earned over time.

From what I have seen,Adobe's sales system is the best of all agencies because it is the only one that guarantees growth over time.

other agencies such as SS or Istock are more immediate but do not guarantee a stable income over time,especially in the near future given the current condition of the microstock.

I don't know how the algorithm works either. Nobody knows that.

But I agree with you because I still suspect that the portfolio ranking might have an influence on the starting ranking of new images. And a portfolio that has been on the market for much longer naturally has an easier time of it than a contributor who has just started out.

With $36 today at AS has made up for yesterday and so the RPD has also improved a little this month.
However, AS is developing a bit like shutterstock: you are dependent on the large downloads to compensate for the increasing mass of small downloads. And I don't like this development! For me, the number of licenses sold for $3.30 at AS has dropped noticeably in recent months.

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For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Of course you may ask.  :)

I've uploaded 13 images in the last six months - so 2 images a month on average. I now have a total of 1567 on Adobe Stock. If you like, I have increased my portfolio by 0.8% in this six-month period. These images have generated a total of 11 downloads - an extremely unsatisfactory result. My hit rate used to be much better.

Nevertheless, as I have already written, the download figures are fairly constant.

And because the download figures are constant, but less money is coming in, there is a problem with the RPD.

Of course, I could upload significantly more, perhaps sell a little more and earn the same money at the end of the day. But that doesn't change the deteriorating RPD. If 1,000 sales used to bring in $ 1,200 and now only bring in $ 750, it's clear that the RPD is clearly trending downwards.

After all, I have just noticed that one of those 13 pictures - uploaded at the beginning of February - has now achieved 8 sales and has made it to page 1 of 8750 pages on the subject. Maybe there will be more sales to come...

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@Wilm

of course if the number of downloads remains more or less constant at this point an RPD is an excellent reference,from here I now understand your concern.

I could write you my RPD on Adobe but my situation is completely different,because my RPD is going up but more importantly I more than doubled the number of sales between 2022 and 2023 and tripled my earnings,so I don't have a constant number of downloads like you and therefore my RPD doesn't matter as much.

I had read that you are losing inspiration somehow,that's maybe even why you're not uploading,music helps me a lot in this,and I always try to look up because if I start looking down I get dizzy :D
or more simply,it's better not to think about the years that are passing and that we are getting older and all the rest,so much is of little use.

but anyway for you this is just a hobby,I aim for something more,I know I still have a lot of work to do and it will take a few more years but I will make it.

thank you for your reply! :)

I am pleased for you that your efforts are being rewarded.

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For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Of course you may ask.  :)

I've uploaded 13 images in the last six months - so 2 images a month on average. I now have a total of 1567 on Adobe Stock. If you like, I have increased my portfolio by 0.8% in this six-month period. These images have generated a total of 11 downloads - an extremely unsatisfactory result. My hit rate used to be much better.

Nevertheless, as I have already written, the download figures are fairly constant.

And because the download figures are constant, but less money is coming in, there is a problem with the RPD.

Of course, I could upload significantly more, perhaps sell a little more and earn the same money at the end of the day. But that doesn't change the deteriorating RPD. If 1,000 sales used to bring in $ 1,200 and now only bring in $ 750, it's clear that the RPD is clearly trending downwards.

Based on today's RPD 1,000 downloads = $560.

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For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

because maybe you make more sales and most likely you also make higher sales?

but please satisfy my curiosity,are you telling me that even if you don't upload your download numbers remains unchanged?If so,how long has it been since you uploaded?

if I may ask of course.

Of course you may ask.  :)

I've uploaded 13 images in the last six months - so 2 images a month on average. I now have a total of 1567 on Adobe Stock. If you like, I have increased my portfolio by 0.8% in this six-month period. These images have generated a total of 11 downloads - an extremely unsatisfactory result. My hit rate used to be much better.

Nevertheless, as I have already written, the download figures are fairly constant.

And because the download figures are constant, but less money is coming in, there is a problem with the RPD.

Of course, I could upload significantly more, perhaps sell a little more and earn the same money at the end of the day. But that doesn't change the deteriorating RPD. If 1,000 sales used to bring in $ 1,200 and now only bring in $ 750, it's clear that the RPD is clearly trending downwards.

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For countless years downloads weren't below 0,38. This is what came in this afternoon - those 0,34 are becoming more and more...

I recently saw videos for 10 USD and images for 1.65 USD,my RPD on Adobe goes up,if you don't upload Wilm this is the result.

if I were you I would take advantage of your advantageous position,go back to uploading at least 30 contents a month,any type of content and you will see how everything goes back uphill,if you no longer upload anything the system starts to put you aside.

I am in a more disadvantaged position than you,I produce much more than you but I collect less than you,because you started before me,but I know that in a couple of years I will start to harvest the fruits of my work,just as I am now reaping the fruits of what I produced a year ago and more.

this in my opinion is one of the things that has changed a lot in recent years,as time passes we need more and more time to see the results of our work.

Why should the RPD go down, if I don't upload? If the number of downloads would go down, I would agree. But the RPD has nothing to do with it.

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