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« on: May 07, 2025, 06:58 »
yes,that's exactly how it is. I too had submitted 4 contents of which I found maybe 1 or 2 similar ones in the adobe stock library,and yet 2 of the 4 contents were rejected. if you submit a batch of 10 contents of anything,similar or not,saleable or not,you're lucky if 5 will get approved. In my opinion,the new review are aimed first and foremost at reducing spam and reject at least half of the contents. then as a second goal imo,also improve the quality of the library and the ports,pushing people to upload only the best of the best. then imo they also took into account that many contributors would be discouraged,and it was taken into account that if someone gives up it's even better,leaving more space for producers who produce higher quality,but also give space to new contributors with fresh new ideas and new locations..new. because here the point of everything is to produce things that sell,there is no more room for huge batches and banal and repetitive contents. so yes,rejection for "similar" in my opinion has a broader spectrum. edit: I am in fact more than sure that Adobe wants to get rid of me,but unfortunately for them I can't give up!
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« on: May 06, 2025, 15:34 »
hahaha!  You are probably more skilled and fast with images. I just hope that all the work I'm doing will make some difference in near future. I'm going all in on this one.
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« on: May 06, 2025, 12:11 »
I,on the other hand,think that there is absolutely nothing random about Adobe.
everything goes exactly the way it's supposed to.
this is my opinion.
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« on: May 06, 2025, 12:07 »
ok,for me it's the same,the next ones are now 7 days old. However,in my opinion you should do many more,one a day is too little. at least you're selling something,a very bad week for me so far!
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« on: May 06, 2025, 11:49 »
Thanks Cobalt for this information!  They also did a review of 2 ai videos for me after about 33 days,2 accepted. very long times for videos...you have any others under review for over a month?
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« on: May 06, 2025, 11:42 »
the only way to solve the problem is to no longer send anything in stock to Adobe.
and do you think Adobe didn't think about this?I don't even rule out this possibility. It seems obvious to me that when they decided to change the review,they took this into account too,and maybe it's also one of the target...who knows? and maybe they are right because we have become really too many,everyone now wants to earn with microstock,and more and more continue to arrive... I obviously don't know,but I'm pretty sure they took this into account too.
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« on: May 06, 2025, 03:37 »
The very abrupt change to random ai reviews is a very serious problem and I have never seen anything like it in 20 years of doing stock.
So complaining about abrupt changes with no real communication or feedback is perfectly sensible.
Also the only way to make them understand that we are displeased and this is not an acceptable situation.
So keep complaining, nothing about these abrupt roulette reviews is normal.
I disagree with the "random review". based on my experience,with these new review,I see a logic in it. for example,i sent 4 images last week of the same concept with different subjects,so 4 images different enough that could be accepted,but only 2 were accepted. then i sent another different image with another concept,and it was accepted,when I then tried to send another completely different image but still with the same concept as the previous image it was rejected. so,at least from my experience,there is a logic to all this,I don't see these "random" review. If multiple images representing the same concept are submitted,even if with completely different subjects and compositions,only some of them will be accepted. anyway,as I said,it's a bit heavy,no one says otherwise,especially for me,or for those like me,who spends an hour or even 2 just to produce an AI image,because I dedicate time to generative fill and many other things in post production. but the fact that it is hard to have these rejections,does not mean that there is no logic behind it. then if you ask me if in my opinion it is still possible to do a business only with images,I answer no.
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« on: May 05, 2025, 14:31 »
I'm happy with Adobe,my only problem is that it's probably the problem of many,is that I would like to earn more,but I also take my responsibilities for this. I also think that all of us,including myself,sometimes complain a little too much. we all complain about pretty much everything in turn!  when there was the contributor bonus,for example,there was a general complaint because 150 contents approved the previous year were needed. the truth is that if you haven't uploaded even 150 contents in a year,it means that either you're not interested,or you already earn enough and you're not interested,and then what are you supposed to do with free software if you haven't uploaded even 150 contents?  and yet people complained. So,let's stop blaming Adobe for everything and take responsibility for ourselves too. First of all,this attitude only makes things worse,and then let's remember that Mat is supervising the content review,certainly with experts who know better than us what they are doing,and then in my opinion,given the situation,I don't see what else could have been done,in this way the spam is finished. could a limit have been set before?probably yes...BUT,there is a big "but",There's a lot going on,and we don't have the big picture,while Adobe does. I have an idea for which certain choices were made,but it is also useless to say them because they are simply my ideas. I'm just saying,let's try to give the benefit of the doubt more,and it seems to me that all things considered,Adobe is doing the best it can,given the overall picture. as I have said other times,I repeat it again: are there problems?yes. will there be more problems in the future?yes. the important thing is the will to solve this problems,and to me,it seems that Adobe does nothing but announce new features and changes,improvements continuously. then as far as I'm concerned,I hope to be able to continue this job,which I like,I hope to be able to earn at least a good part-time salary in a short time from now,but in any case I think I'll find out soon,as I already said I think that in a couple of months from now,I can start to have a clearer idea about this.
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« on: May 05, 2025, 06:52 »
raul only post stuff and run lol. and his job is to make good contact with contributors.
agreed. Raul might even be AI bot
in my opinion Raul should read the entire works of Homer in livestream in ancient greek language then maybe we can start believing that he is not a bot!  Between one rendering and another,I did some research on the Adobe Stock library,and the problem seems to be more present on searches with more words. I say this,without actually knowing if there are specific reasons why research must work this way,anyway I'll give you some examples,purely random and just invented,without showing any screens because I don't want to show anyone's content and it's certainly not up to me to say if it's right or wrong. for example if I write in the search: "golden plate" It is very likely that the first content shown is a simple plate,not gold in color,just as there will always be dozens of results on the first page where there is nothing golden. In my opinion this can be improved,because I searched for "golden plate" so I'm not interested in a normal white plate or any other color. I'm looking for: "woman suitcase" It is likely that the search shows as first result woman with her face in close-up against a plane,without any suitcase,with several similar results which is not what I was looking for,because at most a woman's suitcase is acceptable,or rather a woman with a suitcase at the airport or station,but certainly not a close-up of a woman's face in "travel" related just because the word "suitcase" is travel realated. I believe this is because the person who sent the close-up image of the woman's face against the plane wrote "suitcase" among the first words. I think I've made my point a little clearer,and I repeat,I didn't look for these words,they're just examples. Now I don't know if there are specific reasons why search must work this way,or if it can be improved. in my personal opinion,the search will be improved with AI,from what I see it still follows single words,but this will probably change in the future.
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« on: May 03, 2025, 06:33 »
Thank you Raul and Adobe for this communication. on one hand I'm happy about this because it's the end of spam,for a long time everyone here,including me,has been complaining about excessive spam,and now with these new review the spam is over. on the other hand of course it can be a bit heavy at times,because obviously you dedicate time to creating content that is then rejected. However,I think it's better now with the new review rather than how it was before,when people even flipped the images,thus sending the same image turned around,crazy things!  The reasons for rejection for similar content are not only for its own port,but also in comparison with what is already in the Adobe Stock library. as far as I'm concerned in the last images I sent last week,I had a 50% rejection rate,anyway at the moment I'm very busy with premiere pro and media encoder,so I'm not upload many images lately but more videos. from what I read I'm happy that Adobe rejects content even if the keywords are purposely wrong,because when I search for my content I often find dozens if not hundreds of contents that have absolutely nothing to do with my search. Unfortunately this is the contributors' fault in my opinion,because they want to use AI to index,which is fine,but they don't take the time to check if the indexing generated is correct,thus causing confusion in the library. We can all make mistakes in indexing,but unfortunately there are those who don't care,so I'm happy that Adobe also controls indexing. I wanted to post elsewhere too,but the forum is really too slow and time is money,so I'll write it here briefly: April was the best month this year,and better than last year,if only slightly. I'm going back to work,greetings to everyone!
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« on: April 22, 2025, 12:24 »
I can perhaps shed some light on this since I have I have a decent illustrative editorial port,not big but already ok.
when I left Istock,immediately after I started uploading illustrative editorials to Adobe,types of content that Istock did not accept,in the rejections Istock indicated that they were sorry but they could not sell this type of editorial.
On SS my illustrative editorials are my best sellers,I sell them every day,it's incredible.
on Adobe,when I started uploading them about 3 years ago I started selling them often,so much so that today I have 20 on the first page,so the short answer is yes,on Adobe illustrative editorials sell well.
This year,on Adobe however,I have sold fewer than usual,but I am also uploading fewer illustrative editorials than usual.
Today I just sold 2 illustrative editorials on Adobe.
at the moment I'm stuck with the illustrative editorials,but I'm always there ready to start again,I'll probably produce new ones soon,it clearly depends on many factors,I still have things to evaluate,I also have to see how it goes.
The illustrative editorials that I produce are images that generally require at least an hour of post-production,but often even 2-3 hours.
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« on: April 22, 2025, 05:32 »
@ Andrej.S. thanks and good luck to you too. @ HalfFull congrats,it must be a great satisfaction!
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« on: April 21, 2025, 05:08 »
I would also add that a limit of 1000 AI contents per month approved equally for everyone is a better choice also because the AI contents produced today are better than the AI contents produced a year ago,just as the AI contents produced in a year will be better than those produced today.
for this reason too,a more gradual growth of the AI collection would certainly be a better choice.
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« on: April 21, 2025, 04:32 »
@gnirtS I was talking about AI content,the scenario you describe is another story.
all this always in relation to the contents rejected for similar content because already in the Adobe Stock library,this is what I'm talking about.
What I'm saying is that it's simply not fair that contributors should have to pay the consequences for mistakes that others have made.
some/many were allowed to upload 20000+ AI contents in a year and now we have to pay the consequences of this,I think this is wrong.
I also believe that the solution to the problem is not to reject it but lies in the management of the library.
In my opinion,we should allow everyone equally,talent or not,to accept a maximum of 1000 AI contents per month,because 1000 are already a lot,or rather it should have been done before,now I don't think it's possible to have more than 1000 contents accepted per month.
I am not the one who allowed more than 1000 AI contents to be uploaded per month,so I am not the one who has to pay the consequences,and this applies to all contributors like me,who try to produce quality AI contents,at least try,they are not the ones who have to pay the consequences of this error.
finding a better solution is inevitable,I'm sure it will happen,I think that all this is just temporary,cannot last for many reasons,and I am sure that they will find a solution to the problem,or soon it will not be possible to upload anything anymore,because it will all be similar to content already present in the library.
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« on: April 20, 2025, 17:12 »
another day of uploads is over...come on Adobe,approve everything don't be nasty!  for the rest..i can barely define the shape of this moment in time!
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« on: April 20, 2025, 11:03 »
@Cobalt "Why should adobe stop the uploads of someone who understands what customers like?" not to stop,but to limit. in the absurd hypothesis that Adobe had done as I said in 2023,we would not find ourselves in this situation,do you agree? I had proposed a limit of 500 AI contents maximum per month per contributor,but probably 1000 would be even more fair,but no more for each contributor. come on,1000 contents per month accepted at most for each contributor I think is enough,and then it pushes people to be more selective. but now,you,me and everyone are complaining (rightly,in this case imo) because Adobe rejects similar content,not only in comparison to its own port,but also to the entire library. this,in addition to being wrong,because as you said,you no longer have control of your port,I agree with you,it is wrong,because if the content have quality and commercial value,I also have the right to sell this content,even if there are already millions similar on Adobe Stock. so,as I was saying,besides being wrong,it is also counterproductive for a whole series of businesses that revolve around content generation,including firefly. so here,in my opinion,the real problem is that we are still in a primordial phase,in which is not known how to manage such a large library. That's why over time,Adobe will gain experience in managing this type of content,and experience in selling this type of content,and unfortunately we have found ourselves in the middle of this ongoing evolution. but for me,the important thing is the will to solve problems,which I see in Adobe Stock,which is always there looking for new solutions and strategies,if there is the will,everything will be solved,unfortunately for us it takes time. this fact of rejecting similar content in comparison to the library,is like trying to repair the cylinder head of an engine with electrical tape!
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« on: April 20, 2025, 05:09 »
@DiscreetDuck happy Easter!  then,as I was saying,they are two completely distinct things,what I think about the future of microstock and what I think about my future in microstock. about the future of microstock I have no doubt that things will recover,and rejections especially for content similar compared to what is already in the library will decrease,because new ways will be found to show content to customers so that everyone can show their work,in equal measure. regarding my future in microstock instead,everything will depend on what will happen in the next 2 months,and that's what I'm stressed about,I hope I don't have any nasty surprises,and I won't explain why here,but there are some very specific reasons why this is the case,as far as I'm concerned.
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« on: April 19, 2025, 17:35 »
Well Adobe could be a gold mine if there would be no algorithm / ranking shifts or rejection rates / deleting of images.
You can't plan with Adobe for the next months or years. You can only try to squeeze the last dollars before the coming big collapse in some years.
2500 USD / month (just 625 USD / week) with 20000 images sounds very managable. One member named half_full is making 1000 USD / week with the same sized portfolio.
But I guess the problem is more that you won't upload that much content so fast as in the last years anymore because Adobe will increase massively the rejection rate.
and here we disagree. I think the fact that they are cleaning ibrary is better,while you think it's not. then you think about the great collapse that according to you will happen in a few years,I instead think that there won't be one,in my opinion there will be an evolution,not a collapse. imo we are only experiencing a first phase,in which things have to settle down. I agree instead on "no algorithm / ranking shifts" but unfortunately this is not possible,and you know very well why,but clearly this too can be improved and will surely improve in the future. as for "rejection rates" it seems to me that the review have become more efficient and have already had a taste of the "evolution" I was telling you about. we are in the midst of a microstock revolution,which until 3 years ago was a completely different job,imo nothing more than this.
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« on: April 19, 2025, 07:47 »
no,my expectations have not changed,I did not reach my goal last year,but I decided to take responsibility and do everything in my power to change things,and above all try a new path. but basically I haven't changed my expectations,in fact we are still in April,and in 2 months from now I will know if things can change for me or not,for reasons that as I said I don't intend to discuss here. then I don't know why you have to waste time looking for sentences written by me a year ago in a completely different situation,don't you have anything better to do?
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« on: April 19, 2025, 05:34 »
I know someone who uploaded 20,000 images from summer 2023 to summer 2024 and earned $31,000,which is about $2,500 per month. This is probably why many of us are unable to earn as much as we should in a pre-AI situation. Unfortunately I cannot verify if this information is true,but it is likely true. if it's true,In my opinion this is wrong and should be avoided,Adobe shouldn't allow a single contributor to upload 20,000 images in a year,that's just too much. but this happened at the beginning,now something like this can't happen anymore,Adobe is already fixing it by cleaning up the library for example,and should probably try to stop accepting content from people who uploaded that much,or just remove at least half of the content from people who uploaded more than 1000 AI content per month,while it should give more space to those who upload less content more regularly. It seems to me that Adobe has already started this policy,which is necessary for the future of Adobe Stock,so things should improve in the future. At the moment we are still suffering the impact of this flood,but soon I hope and believe it should get better. I hope the review team has a chance to see who uploads this content and HOW MANY they have already uploaded. I'm sure the Adobe Stock team knows better than us what they're doing and I hope things will get better soon. as far as I'm concerned,lately the review seem right to me,I have nothing to complain about,i have approved content and rejected content in a normal level. I will also spend Easter Sunday working and the future of this work for me with Adobe Stock will depend a lot on what happens in the next 2 months at most,for some reasons that I won't write here. I will soon know what my future will be,for now I just have to keep working. Happy Easter to all of you fellow contributors and the entire Adobe Stock team!  we need a better future,help us make it happen!
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« on: April 17, 2025, 02:16 »
I too have earned more on SS than on Adobe so far this month,even though my Adobe port is bigger,but I think it's a temporary situation,it won't last,and soon I'll be back to earning more on Adobe again.
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« on: April 17, 2025, 02:04 »
as far as I'm concerned, even a part-time salary is fine with me,I never thought I would get rich and famous with microstock.
However,i think that this is just a transitional moment,and that in the near future more effective and faster ways will be found to solve all the problems we know,like copycats,slow reviews,rejections for similar content already in the library,thieves...
This is still an early stage of a radical event that began only 2-3 years ago.
then we must also consider that the future of microstock and of us contributors depends not only on how events on Adobe Stock develop,but there are many more things at stake in a broader vision.
to put it simply,in the absurd event that Adobe Stock stops accepting content,this will impact a whole host of businesses outside of Adobe,so it can't happen,just as it can't happen that 90% of the contents are rejected,because it would be the same, just as it can't happen that thieves and copycats continue to do as they want.
The problems are there,and they are known,and Adobe has always moved in the right direction, so I don't see why it shouldn't continue to do so.
this is just a transitional moment,the prehistory of modern microstock,things will be different and better in the future,with new tools available,to resolve any potential problems.
It's an inevitable consequence,there's a lot of money and a lot of business at stake,it can't be otherwise.
There are problems,but there is also the will to solve them,otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to clean up the library,or they wouldn't have bothered to impose the new rule of only one account unless absolutely necessary,otherwise they would have already lowered the royalties,otherwise the contributor bonus would not be given,otherwise they would never have accepted the AI contents... otherwise many things!
It's a difficult time,but it will pass,there are no alternatives,then anyway it's certainly not easy to manage all this,as I said it's easy to criticize,but the situation is very complex,keep up with the times and at the same time try to please everyone,it's difficult.
then as far as I'm concerned,the future of this work for me,depends on the development that will take place in the near future.
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« on: April 16, 2025, 16:23 »
I don't think contributors will abandon Adobe,simply because Adobe is the best agency,where else do you want to go?  Unless you are exclusive to some exclusive agency,there are no better agencies than Adobe out there. and I say this even though I'm a low-earner,but that's another story,that's my fault. sure,I could earn more,but we must also consider that we are many,many Adobe Stock contributors. There are problems?yes there are,but that doesn't mean they can't be solved,and I'm more than sure that they will be solved,just as I'm more than sure that there will be more problems,that's life! at the moment there are still rejections for similar,but simply because at the moment things work differently than they will in the future,as new ways to manage the library will be found,and it will no longer be necessary to reject for similar,but more than anything for aesthetic or commercial quality of the content. Let's try not to forget that it's always easy to criticize,and that we contributors don't have the whole picture,while the Adobe Stock team has a broader vision of everything,and that it's not easy to manage the enraged herd of contributors thirsty for sales!  In the meantime,I'm working hard in a completely new direction,my goal is to improve and modernize my portfolio. I'm also a bit stressed by the long review times,also because I'm experimenting with a new production,and I would clearly like to move faster,at a time when unfortunately moving quickly is difficult. I have to keep believing,I can't afford to give up. we can do it Adobe! keep it up!
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« on: April 14, 2025, 07:48 »
I use a tool which I can generate up to 2000 images a day with no cost for images. And different tool for video. Works for me.
I don’t intend to invest too much time into this. Especially if the reward is less than 10 pence
Are you sure these free AI models producing content that is allowed for commercial use?
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« on: April 11, 2025, 07:01 »
upload an image to SS and use the keyword tool,then simply copy and paste wherever you want.
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