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General Stock Discussion / Re: Do you use Mac or PC for your photography/creative art workflow and why
« on: February 06, 2009, 06:02 »
This has to do with the rendering engine of the web-browser (ie different browser=different view), you cannot blame pc's for this.
But you can surely blame iStock for poor testing :P

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Do you use Mac or PC for your photography/creative art workflow and why
« on: February 06, 2009, 05:01 »
:) truth is I really enjoy talking with intelligent people like you FlemishDreams, really.

The reason that my posts seem so hard against Windows is that I truly believe that people should deserve a better OS, especially from a company that holds the greatest share on the market.

No, I don't believe that all these people using windows are of low IQ. I just believe that they are not informed well (for a million reasons that I am not going to explain here - I got a full time job myself you know :) -) about the existence of better products.

As for the System automation issue, I know that it seems "impossible" to not find a software somewhere to do the job, but believe me you cannot! It is matter of system architecture!
For example if the OS is not designed to work with privilege-based-accounts, there is no software that can expand it to do it!
Yes, you can do almost everything on a windows machine, but the reality shows that you will have to spend time and in some cases money, to do the very same thing you could have done on another OS natively. This is my point and not to start a war here :)

Being a personal computer consumer since they appeared on the planet, I must say that paying for some hundred of dollars for windows, at the time that different OSes are superior (and cheaper) is not on my interest.

One last example I can think of is Google. Of course you can search for things in Yahoo and a million other sites, but the 95% of people doesn't. Why?... The answer (for me at least) is pretty simple. They choose google because they can try all of them in about 10' and stick with the best.

Maybe I am a Google fundamentalist too :P

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Do you use Mac or PC for your photography/creative art workflow and why
« on: February 04, 2009, 16:40 »
Quote from: FlemishDreams on February 04, 2009, 11:29
Quote from: alladinian on February 04, 2009, 09:58
There is absolutely no way to automate the operating system, simply because it doesn't support it!
System wide batch has been around as long as there are computers, long before the time of PCs and MACs. IBM had it, DEC had it, Linux still has it. You can do it in Windows too if you really want it, but in command mode. The batch files with commands have the extension "BAT". Never used it after DOS though, so I can't comment on the ease of use under Windows. I can imagine there are batch tools for Windows around in the vast pool of Windows software. Just have a look at Tucows.

Quote from: alladinian on February 04, 2009, 09:58
Ps. I have a friend of mine that is actually typing simple text on photoshop just to print it out. Ok, the logic -> Go with what you know is not always right...
If it works for him and he only has to do it once in a while, it's right. If the text is with effects, like shadows and bevels, it's the only way as far as I know. If it's simple text, he could use OpenOffice of course. The right tool to nail a spike is a hammer, but if it happens you have no hammer around but a rock and you just need to nail one spike, it's faster to use that rock.

Of course you can lecture that person how much more handy a hammer would be, but by the time you finished your lecture and he ran to the shop for a hammer, he could have nailed in 100 spikes. If he had to nail in 100 spikes every day, a hammer might be a better idea.

You are joking about the BAT files... right?
So if I am getting this right, you recommend to a photographer to have a PC for having the privilege of workflow automation via BAT files???

Come on people, we all know it's true ! Windows are very poor os and linux (although powerful) cannot be used by professionals (I am talking about creative artists right now) for many reasons.

What I am trying to say is that apple is offering the best solution around for artists and this is why you see the majority of them to chose their products. As simple as that :)

Regarding the second part (the one with the rock and the hammer) I respect your opinion, but my point of view is that the time you spend on learning something properly is a major investment you do for your future.

Ps. Personally... I wouldn't trust someone to build my house by nailing spikes with a rock :)


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General Stock Discussion / Re: Do you use Mac or PC for your photography/creative art workflow and why
« on: February 04, 2009, 09:58 »
Yes you got right, but... I am actually talking about something that cannot be done if I was on Windows :)

There is absolutely no way to automate the operating system, simply because it doesn't support it!

That is my point and since the topic is concerned about Workflow and Creativity, I just mentioned my "why", I wouldn't like to debate on a theoretical basis :)

So just to recap, in the real world, apple's solution (and especially the OS) is far more superior to competitive products when it comes to Workflow/automation/simplicity etc...

Ps. I have a friend of mine that is actually typing simple text on photoshop just to print it out. Ok, the logic -> Go with what you know is not always right...

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Do you use Mac or PC for your photography/creative art workflow and why
« on: February 04, 2009, 09:05 »
Quote from: FlemishDreams on February 04, 2009, 08:47
Quote from: alladinian on February 04, 2009, 05:14
Finally, is it possible for anyone to find me a way to automate a batch procedure WITHOUT having to spend more money on 3rd party software?

The new Irfanview (free) does a lot of that. I'm not sure about the color space but you can write a Photoshop action for it.

Hmm... yes it can do batch processing but not system-wide (operates only on files, cannot send an automated filtered-based email or distribute files to a network for example) :) see my example to understand what I mean....

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Do you use Mac or PC for your photography/creative art workflow and why
« on: February 04, 2009, 05:14 »
The same old story here :P

@All guys saying that having a PC is ok and works great:

What you really forget, as it seems from the posts, is the operating system.
Actually the main thing that makes mac computers more attractive to creative people is not the far-superior design of the machine, but the fact that the software it comes with is ages ahead of the competition. Besides, when a company ships a non-custom computer, can assure you that hardware is fully tested and working great with software, something that M$ simply cannot achieve since they don't know where you are going to put their software.

Finally, is it possible for anyone to find me a way to automate a batch procedure WITHOUT having to spend more money on 3rd party software?

For example, tell me how I can change the colorspace on 15.000 photos, rotate only those that are landscapes, zip them and e-mail them to 5 different email addresses based on their dimensions by JUST dragging them on to a special folder on my desktop on a PC with Vista (or XP) and I am going to set all my macs to flame the very same moment :)


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