Quote from: Kamran on April 24, 2015, 14:52
Your 3d modelling skill is good and you can earn decent money with your 3d rendering.  Too jaggy or very low poly model render will mostly reject. I see noise in your rendering, which will also not acceptable by many agencies. Render with highest rendering quality setting of your 3d software. Highlight reflection is also too much in some renders. Render on white background will be great.  Good luck

I can rump up polygon count a bit, but not much.

What do you mean by noise? On the background or the model?

Yeah on second tough, reflections were a bit much, and sometimes produced misshapen images.

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 24, 2015, 19:04
I apologise then, I was wrong.  I am impressed.

You don't need to, you helped me a loot.

If there are any sites, where I can sell these models or new ones, then I would first do that, only after that start in photography (it would be harder to do that than modeling), however I never found such site. There is no "stock model" site.

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on April 24, 2015, 15:03
You need to up the tesselation or divisions.  On the pencil, for example, you can see how the sides do not match the end cap.

Do you mean that the sides of the pencil overlap into the body of the metal cap?

By tessalation do you mean that round surfaces look polygonal (or angular not round)?

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 24, 2015, 08:43
You seem to know how to photograph stuff then. You also seem to know more than you let us believe. I am not sure anymore if you are taking the piss or not. 

These were no photographs or photoshops, I made them in solidworks from simple objects, the mug was made from a simple cilinder shape, then I rounded it a bit, then made a render (see the attached jpg), the texturing is not UV mapped, because I used only stock textures, I learned this in middle school.

If you don't use engineering programs it will be difficult for you to understand.

I just started photoshop today, and it is confusing as hell, I can't even fill a simple rectangular shape with a color. You see my mind is wired differently I am used to programs like AutoCAD what is designed more logically than photoshop (at least for me).

I can design moderately well if everything is precisely set in stone, I define every mm with clear numbers, each spline, curve or line has their lenght, angle, etc. And they all traced back to a reference point, so if I set a number from 50 mm to 60 mm, the whole object and every other dimension changes accordingly.

Wheras in photoshop or 3Dmax, nothing is set in stone, and you just draw freely, and you have to make unnecessary circles again and again, if you want to something precize. That's why I can't really photoshop pictures too, I would have to unlearn my pedantic habits.

I like to see myself as an artist, but I am probably (in skills at least) closer to the engineer-machanical community.

However I use architectural and engineering programs to produce mostly artistic products, I am kind of hybrid.

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 24, 2015, 08:17
I think LEGO is copyrighted.

I know, this was just about my modeling skills. I can set up new light sources because these were shoot with diffuse light.

What do you think about my models? Are my skills comercially viable or not? I know that I boched up the textures a bit. I also made other works, but I don't want to upload videos of complex mechanical machines, because it is more time consuming.

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Quote from: Hermitlog on April 23, 2015, 20:04

I looked up DoF and instantly realized that I missed critical knowledge of photography, I never thought that DoF or something that I imagined regarding focus, since I didn't know the term, could be changed. They said the size of the DoF can be changed, and the DoF behind and infront of the focus could be different (I still have to grasp how is this possible).
I have to find out how to change this  on my camera.

Reading about aperture, I made a personal discovery (I know this comes naturally for you, but for me it was an "Heureka moment").

No, really...
Not one of us comes out of the womb knowing this techical stuff.
It has to be learned.
Some people are more naturally gifted compositionally, true; but getting our heads round the technical stuff is work.

I know, I just forgot to add now. I meant that when someone becomes skilled sometimes it's harder for them to imagine that other don't know that stuff, what they use everyday.

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 23, 2015, 14:10
Its a quick mock up but it gives you an idea of where to take it. Skies with clouds are ten times better. If you loose color because of

shooting into the sun, or on a overcast day, you can always try black and white. You can also use photoshop to create some interesting

compositions.

Thanks a lot. I thought that cutting and reversing parts of a picture, and then copying it to make a new picture is a bad editing

technique, and avoided it, because I thought that they would reject such outright. However the one you did looks better than the original

picture.

I just don't know how to retouch these kind of discontinuity lines to make them disappear, so the picture will look seamless.

Indeed for the first look the pictures are way better with clouds, but is this a legitimate tactic in the eyes of rewievers?

On the black and white town picture, did you add just clouds or edited the contrast too?

I don't really understand the editing in the first picture, is it just some cuts? I mean is it better because the subject flag is more

emphasisesd?

Quote from: Difydave on April 22, 2015, 18:48

Quote from: ArenaCreative on April 22, 2015, 18:34
My 100% honest truth critique...

Which is almost exactly the same as my opinion.
With the greatest respect, you are not at present "a photographer". 
You are technically way off. You need to study lighting, and/or use of natural light, understand aperture and depth of field. Composition.

Post processing. The list is endless. Then you start on stock. What might sell (there is no definite there) seeing trends, finding niche

subjects.
And shoot, shoot, shoot. . .
You are very quickly going to find the limitations of your equipment. The shots you have put up here are full of noise, purple fringing

and Chromatic aberration.
Again, good luck with this. I honestly think that you need to go away and learn about the basics of good photography before joining the

race that this business is. Plenty of books and online tutorials are available. 

I looked up DoF and instantly realized that I missed critical knowledge of photography, I never thought that DoF or something that I

imagined regarding focus, since I didn't know the term, could be changed. They said the size of the DoF can be changed, and the DoF behind

and infront of the focus could be different (I still have to grasp how is this possible).

I have to find out how to change this  on my camera.

Reading about aperture, I made a personal discovery (I know this comes naturally for you, but for me it was an "Heureka moment"). So on

aperture depends if I restrict the image to collinated light only or for light from every angle. I presume that light sources (trees,

etc.) which light comes in an angle will look blurred, wheras light sources which light comes collinated will look sharp.

I don't exactly understand, but hyphotetize that with small aperture, but long exposition more parts of the picture will become sharp

(larger DoF, landscape), wheras large aperture and short exposition produces images where only some parts of the image are sharp (smaller

DoF, portraits).

I think the reason for that usage is that on a person you don't want to concentrate on unimportant details, because humans look at the

face, probably most on the eyes, but you want to see the whole landscape not just trees or statues.

Am I right?

Well I think I have to make at least tens of pictures with different settings about the same subject, that means I have to spend hours

photographing only one glass of milk, or a church, which is really slow work, sigh. I really have try hard, not to loose interest, as I

have did with many thing in the past, I have to do this.

I just read, that digital cameras are more sensitive of chromatic aberration and purple fringing (I didn't know what that was until now).

Despite interested in science it never occured to me, that since different colors have different wavelenghts, the camera will capture the

differently. I deduced that purple fringing occurs on the edges, because it is everywhere, but more visible where light differs greatly.

I have to use filters for digital cameras, but my camera don't have a socket, so bad luck.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on April 23, 2015, 01:32
I think that a bigger problem than your lack of technical skill (which definitely is a problem) is that you appear not to know that what

you're looking at is not good - not good composition or lighting and generally without any clear subject. Without that basic eye for

design and story telling you will have a hard time with illustration, 3D modeling, photography or anything visual.

You certainly have some determination to your credit. Sometimes people know their images aren't any good - not even nice snapshots - but

they don't know how to make them better. That can be fixed by learning technical skills.

If you honestly thought these were pleasing images (forget even being good stock) then you need to wait to learn techniques until you have

some notion of light, shadow, composition and telling a story visually.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I don't think it helps to sugar coat things.

And if you knew these images were awful, what made you think they might work as stock? Do some searches on Shutterstock or Stocksy and

look at the images there. That's your competition.

Good luck

I honestlythough my images are good. I thought that you only have to shoot something unusual, or something that only rarely happens and

you need the perfect time to capture it (thinking of this a passing train is not that unusual). These pictures were important for me

because I knew their story, I knew my emotions, the situation, and somehow this made me think that they were good shoots. While others

only see the product, basically I am biased towards my work, I have to be more objective.

I am thinking about nieches and themes for me, because I realized now that landscape, buildings or insects are too broad themes. It's hard

to narrow it down that much, in the past I thought that only produces boring images (the same theme all the time).

Dunno, probably sewers? Or flames? Someone suggested local monuments, I have check it out if shutterstock has pictures what were made

here.

Yep it does. But only 350, filled with monuments, sport events and festivals, and a few nature photos, but I can see the gaps there.

Quote from: cathyslife on April 23, 2015, 13:27
Compositionally, I see some potential in a few, but as mentioned earlier, technically they are not good. Take, for instance, the image of

the house sitting in the trees with the lake and mountains in the background. There is no detail at all in the shadows where the house is.

Those trees should be green instead of almost black. And with the closeup of the spider that is yellow and black...the highlights have

been blown out on a good portion of the spider. Not sure if you used a tripod, but on macro shots, you must, or you will get blur.

I notice on some them there are harsh shadows, meaning there wasn't enough light and/or your flash didn't fire. Lighting will be a big

challenge.

There are articles online about people who shoot with point-and-shoot cameras such as yours, and they get beautiful, stock-worthy results.

Maybe you could search for some tips on how to get more out of what you have to work with.

I really like the mood of the image of the sunset in the marshes. You got some lens flare from shooting into the sun and there are other

technical issues, but if the technical issues were fixed, I can see how it might be used commercially. As well as with a few others you

posted.

I would suggest doing a lot of research to learn what makes a good image, and then do a lot of shooting. We ALL started out where you did,

and some of us have some beginner shots still in our portfolios, especially those of us who started 10 or more years ago in microstock.

Thanks for thee feedback. Is lensflare bad? I thought that it was nice. I read somewhere that shooting into the sun damages the

photreceptors, so now I try to avoid it.

By the way I have travel to that marsh, and that takes a day, so I have to invest more time at thing closer to me.

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Quote from: fritz on April 22, 2015, 13:52
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I see now why you don't want download it. You think it is a virus. Well I just uploaded my pictures to 2shared yesterday, and after your

complaint I redownloaded it from the site. My AVG Internet Security didn't find anything. And I am sure as hell, didn't upload any virus

into it, I can barely program in C.

But I understand, that you don't trust a newcomer, so I try to upload the pictures. However free picture uploading sites all say that they

retain the copyright if I use them. So that's a nono. I guess I have to make multiple posts here because of the 4 attachment limit.

Is that okay?

it's got nothing to do with "not trusting a newcomer", but you might want to make your work *accessible* not only for this but for all

other situations as well in order to achieve *any* rate of success out there. This goes for photo galleries as well as writing and/or

pitching your work (any work) to editors (photo editors or otherwise). If people who are even willing to help you out here and take a look

at your pic are greeted with 404s or virus warnings or anything like that, then this is not the right way to do it.

You need to get a grip of these things anyway or I would advise very strongly against going down that road.

I didn't planned to use batch files on shutterstock or any site, I was just in a hurry here. The next day I had the time.

Thanks guys all the great answers. You made so many comments that I can hardly reply to everyone of you, sorry if that happens.

No troll here, if you don't value the small you don't deserve the big.

It seems I have a larger task before me than I have anticipated at first, but I will try.

Do you think making 3D models or icons for shutterstock would sell for me better?

Maybe I post some of my work tomorrow.

Quote from: Difydave on April 22, 2015, 17:21

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 22, 2015, 16:49
None of them are good enough I am afraid.

Afraid I agree. You are well off the mark with these. You have a long way to go both technically and content wise to make any money at this.
You can do it, and indeed others have, but you're looking at a steep learning curve to start with.


Think of what is unique about where you live, and put together how ever many shots needed which are technically good, and which either have a good concept, or are useful in some way to illustrate a magazine article etc. You'll need shots with people as well as landscapes and still life shots.

Thank you for the feedback.

1. Could you please clarify more specificly about each picture?

2. Or the about the ones which show some potential (stuck out from the rest).

3. Are there any what have only one major flaw but otherwise good?

4. My camera is a Samsung WB100, and doesn't have any manual mode. I can't toggle the focus manually, no matter how hard I try. It was expensive, but what is the worth of a camera that can only make automatic pictures. Or am I missing something?

5. Is this camera even capable to produce good pictures?

I this good enough watermark to deter thiefs?

I start uploading my pictures now, 42 will follow, I have at least 400 pictures of flowers, but I know that the market is saturated with them, so I have to think out something original. What is in high demand, but few do it, and I can afford it with (I am poor by US standards).

The second cloud picture is a bit noisy, and some of the images have focus issues, (I don't know if chromatic aberration counts if it's on the background and not on the main subject) however I only need 10 to apply for Shutterstock.

Keep in mind there will be some quality loss, because of compression, and resaving the pictures.

I will thank it very much if you could also suggest keywords. Before my writing style confuses you, I am a total amateur not an intermediate, I don't want to look anything better here, because that would hijack legitimate criticism.

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Every picture has a story, on this one I didn't modify anything, I have found the shoes by the road exatly like this, then after a few meters have found two attire of full male and female clothing beside the road, but no humans.

Quote from: Difydave on April 22, 2015, 13:35
No matter what you might have read or heard:
There is no easy money to be had at microstock these days.
I don't know if there ever was "easy money" but if there was, that ended in about 2005.


Unless you really are an exceptional photographer with access to the right subjects, then I would forget about replacing your day job this way. As already said you would make more to start with by flipping burgers.


Nobody is going to download a zip file from an unknown source. If you really want critique put links to individual full sized images watermarked across the image as your copyright. (Someone here will tell you if you have any hope of making any money at all. 

I don't want easy money, because that doesn't exist. However I have heard that you can make 1 dollar a day if you are good. That's a fortune here.

I worked in a factory handling and maintaining complex and heavy computerized machines, I also had to make the products and look out for the raw material to evenly load into the machine, then package the produced goods while doing paperwork also, this all sounds good, however I also had to reach a norm, which was a high number, sometimes you have to manufacture so many products, that it's physically impossible to do (your machine's cycle time is longer than the required time to make them). The tool of the machine is 280 °C hot, so your exposed skin instantly melts if you touch it, but the protective gear is inadequte, and there are lots of technical problems that make your life there miserable, basically you have to work with excrement and turn it into gold. You couldn't use the toilet or have a food break either.

But the pay was good, I made 400 dollars a month (an average job pays 250 dollars a month, making burgers for example pay 200) by working 16 hours and 6 days a week, in 4 different shifts (dawn, afternoon, night, weekend). Then I saw on the Internet that you can make money, by writing articles (I am planning to sell food recipes what are unknown to westerners, local culinary delights), producing CAD models, or complex CAD machines and animating them (I am good in Autocad and solidworks), or selling photos, icons and illustrations (I can make vector images in gimp and .Net). I also like to paint pictures, and work with wood, so with all these things I can probably make up 300-400 dollars a month in place of my lost job.

If I can build up these sales in 3 or 4 months than that's good, because I have a friend that supplies me, and I will spend my saving until then.

Even if I only make 5 dollars a month, that worth 15 kg of bread here, more than enough for a month.

I already made my paypal account, even though the 1 dollar price was a lot.

Quote from: fritz on April 22, 2015, 13:52
http://www.2shared.com/file/V9E3tMaK/kldeni.html

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This page is blocked by Bitdefender Antimalware filter.

I see now why you don't want download it. You think it is a virus. Well I just uploaded my pictures to 2shared yesterday, and after your complaint I redownloaded it from the site. My AVG Internet Security didn't find anything. And I am sure as hell, didn't upload any virus into it, I can barely program in C.

But I understand, that you don't trust a newcomer, so I try to upload the pictures. However free picture uploading sites all say that they retain the copyright if I use them. So that's a nono. I guess I have to make multiple posts here because of the 4 attachment limit.

Is that okay?

Hello!

I want to start stock photography, because I became unemployed and I need to make a living fast.

But first I need to know, if my pictures contain at least 10 that worth a try. I would like to join Shutterstock.

If you have the time, could you please mark the pictures that are good for submission, or if not, what are the errors.

Thank you very much.

P.S. Pictures are in a zip file. I wont post the pictures to shutterstock with the copyright mark.

http://www.2shared.com/file/V9E3tMaK/kldeni.html