Quote from: lagereek on October 04, 2011, 07:28

Quote from: llareggub on October 04, 2011, 06:29
I have only been contributing for 9 months but to date, FT only constitutes 3% of my earnings where as 123RF constitutes 17% there are approximately 25% more images in my 123RF portfolio than my FT portfolio.

Even my IStock revenue outstrips FT by a ratio of 3:1 and I only managed to get on there 5 months ago with the restrictive 18 image a week upload to contend with also.

I have no idea who sells at FT but I have seen nothing to give me a glimmer of hope over the lsat 9 months as a new contributor, 123RF on the other hand just keepp on motorin'.

Yes but,  really,  with sites like SS, IS, DT and FT,  you really need a much bigger portfolio, you know,  when you reach around a thousand images, you get a good idea of the various percentages.

I agree whole heartedly, my portfolio is growing at a fairly rapid rate so making any valued judgements at the moment is difficult but can only speak from my experience, maybe after another 12months and a full trip through an annual cycle I may have a better understanding

In terms of the larger sites my portfolio sizes and sales revenue % for the last month read.

500 123RF 15.8%
400 DT 12.5%
350 FT 3.3%
270 SS 40.8%
200 IS 21.6%

I have only been contributing for 9 months but to date, FT only constitutes 3% of my earnings where as 123RF constitutes 17% there are approximately 25% more images in my 123RF portfolio than my FT portfolio.

Even my IStock revenue outstrips FT by a ratio of 3:1 and I only managed to get on there 5 months ago with the restrictive 18 image a week upload to contend with also.

I have no idea who sells at FT but I have seen nothing to give me a glimmer of hope over the lsat 9 months as a new contributor, 123RF on the other hand just keepp on motorin'.

I don't mind where 123RF appear in the "league table" but the thing that really does matter is how they perform for me and as far as I am concerned it is exceptionally well.  RPD is very good and they are engaged in a very close battle with DT to be my third highst revenue stream behind SS and IS...

I too would like to see navigation improved and a little more information on performance of each image so number of sales and total sales revenue for an image would be cool but will not sell me anymore pictures and I doubt that I would learn heaps from the data.  Just keep motoring on is what I say

Thanks for the response Anglee, like I mentioned above it I got them uploaded yesterday afternoon through Lightburner

Thanks all got it working late on yesterday!

Anyone else experiencing upload problems ast night/this morning?

Am trying through lightburner and getting no joy and when I upload directly through the website it trips out to a 404 error after a few seconds.

Cheers

Brian

Quote from: Larry on September 14, 2011, 18:57

Quote from: gostwyck on September 14, 2011, 18:10

Quote from: llareggub on September 14, 2011, 17:05

Quote from: Larry on September 14, 2011, 16:08
Dreamstime, however, was absolutely unconcerned that my one remaining image was hanging up my process for three months. Basically their attitide was "too bad" and "stick it". I also got a few very nasty comments on these boards as well, one person saying I was stupid to expect fair treatment.

I still do not get stuff like this, fair treatment for all parties is that an agreement is adhered to in my view...  If both parties agree to a compromise it is fair enough but neither s obligated to as far as I am concerned!

If you wish tp break a contractual arrangement it is done by mutual consent and no amount of bleating changes the fact that you said that in exchange for "X" you would agree to "Y".  It does make me a little angry to be honest, I am new to this whole stock thingy but in other work spheres there is a simple answer to anyone wishing to break a commercially binding contract and usually that answer is quite simply "no"!

I can understand frustrations but to throw all of your toys out of the pram as the OP did and then say he will not tolerate "Bad Practices" and throw a whole load of accusations around only to turn around less than 24 hours later and say I have apoloigised and in the end the accepted my pictures smacks of "Brattishness" and realisitcally not anything that I consider to be either grown up or adult behaviour!

Well said!

You guys make this so simple and black and white.  Maybe you didn't read the situation.  I had removed all but ONE IMAGE from Dreamstime.  They refused to consider removing it so I could move on.  They made me wait THREE MONTHS to remove that image, so I could go exclusive elsewhere.  During that time, they made no sales of the image, they made no money on it, it made no practical difference to them AT ALL. It is unreasonable, belligerant, uncooperative and spiteful behavior.  You support that behavior?  Weird. Their behavior was pointless and destructive. You like that? Weird. 

It is indeed black and white, a contractual agreement is, in its very definition black and white and it has to be to make it worth anything!

Whether I, you or indeed Dreamstime like it or not a contractual agreement is a contractual agreement, you were the one who wished to renege on your responsibilities and DT were completely within their rights to say no!

Quote from: FRooGZ on September 14, 2011, 17:56

QuoteI can understand frustrations but to throw all of your toys out of the pram as the OP did and then say he will not tolerate "Bad Practices" and throw a whole load of accusations around only to turn around less than 24 hours later and say I have apoloigised and in the end the accepted my pictures smacks of "Brattishness" and realisitcally not anything that I consider to be either grown up or adult behaviour!

Anyone can have an opinion about anything, and the fact is that i don't care the way you think. You are not aware about what was talked between me and DT staff, and mainly, you don't know me! So please keep your grown up and adult thing to you.

I was just sharing with who cares about the settle of this history, and the fact the my pictures was accepted or not has nothing to do with the way it had ended. FYI the picture was accepted earlier today, and the hole issue ended yesterday.

The minute that you posted in a public fora you invited the thoughts of the members of the community, my thoughts are valid and logical...  If you feel that I have made illogical leaps please point them out?  

You are free to an opinion however if you start throwing them out there you must expect a response and that is my response, a response that you have chosen to respond to by putting your fingers in your ears whilst going "la la la" I don't care, like I say very grown up and professional!

I have just one question, you claimed to be unwilling to accept bad porcedures and policies but it now seems that oyu are willing to stay affiliated on the site, does that mean that you have either changed your mind or that you changed DT's mind?

Quote from: Larry on September 14, 2011, 16:08
Dreamstime, however, was absolutely unconcerned that my one remaining image was hanging up my process for three months. Basically their attitide was "too bad" and "stick it". I also got a few very nasty comments on these boards as well, one person saying I was stupid to expect fair treatment.

I still do not get stuff like this, fair treatment for all parties is that an agreement is adhered to in my view...  If both parties agree to a compromise it is fair enough but neither s obligated to as far as I am concerned!

If you wish tp break a contractual arrangement it is done by mutual consent and no amount of bleating changes the fact that you said that in exchange for "X" you would agree to "Y".  It does make me a little angry to be honest, I am new to this whole stock thingy but in other work spheres there is a simple answer to anyone wishing to break a commercially binding contract and usually that answer is quite simply "no"!

I can understand frustrations but to throw all of your toys out of the pram as the OP did and then say he will not tolerate "Bad Practices" and throw a whole load of accusations around only to turn around less than 24 hours later and say I have apoloigised and in the end the accepted my pictures smacks of "Brattishness" and realisitcally not anything that I consider to be either grown up or adult behaviour!

Quote from: FRooGZ on September 13, 2011, 18:37

Quote from: llareggub on September 13, 2011, 18:22
When playing in someone elses sandpit you play by their rules if you don't like it don't play!

Fair play to you for leaving but doubt that DT will either notice or give a....

no one will force me to be/have  an online account and my images for 6 months without my permission!

But when you agreed to DT terms ansd conditions you explicitly entered into a legally binding contract agreeing to the terms as stated... As such YOU explicitly gave them permission!  The same goes for all of your other gripes, you did not uncover anything groundbreaking or any Watergate style conspiracy, don't like it don't play but whinging aint going to change anything.

As for bad policies and procedures you yourself are entering into the most heinous of "bad practices" by attempting to breech a legally binding contract because the games are not being played by your rules!

When playing in someone elses sandpit you play by their rules if you don't like it don't play!

Fair play to you for leaving but doubt that DT will either notice or give a....

Before I retired I worked for some of the worlds largest property companies and they had serious troubles paying thier bills on time, it doid not mean that they were in financial trouble...  It meant that their payment systems (generally at the people end) were not fit for purpose nothing more nothing less, all of those organisations are still plodding on and I doubt none of the poor folk sitting at the none payment end were speculating about the financial difficulties of the organisation that owed them!

From what I have seen and read shutterstock have a fairly bad rep for communication (I have only had to contact them once and they were ok for me) across the board, but to take just the complaints ref payment issues and extrapolate them to mean SS are having financial difficultie verges on the parsimonic. 

If you want to know if SS are struggling financially you will need to get hold of their financial data, if you want to know whether SS have communication difficulties just read pretty much every forum and there is a common theme!

Looks nice bu am having trouble uploading through flash this morning

123RF sold were my number one sales site last month thans to a late 100mb Tiff sale (of a file that I never thought would sell and hasn't to date anywhere else), however they usually are a fairly firm third in the proceedings way behind SS but pretty close to DT.

I only have a small portfolo 200 odd images so difficult to spot trrends but today has been my most succesful day revenue wise with 2 OD downloads and a handfu of subs.

Quote from: packerguy on July 13, 2011, 17:36
I have images that were accepted on Sunday (and have sold) that disappeared, then reappeared, and now are gone again.

I had this problem with a couple of images last week and the disapeared and reapeared seemingly at random, although they seemed to continue selling and it has settled down in the last few days.

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 18:51
Perhaps the company has been too lenient in the past on quality.It has a huge library now and if it continued accepting the majority of content submitted by its contributors the quality would be diluted.
If as the majority in this thread suspect,the inspection has got harder,i would except the new standard,learn it and match it .Simple.

There in lies the rub... 

The common theme of this whole thread is a lack of consistancy and not understanding what Shutterstock now want, I have no problem with the bar being raised, I'm relatively new to all this so it can only improve my peformance...  If it was a logical rejection pattern, if there is one I cannot see it and that also seems to be the case for many experienced and succesful submitters too.

I am only 6 months into this stock malarky but am lost with what to do at SS, I got accepted with my first batch of pictures and to date have almost 190 images on line and have gone from an acceptance rate in the 70's to around about 25% in the last couple of months.

Seems odd that my acceptance rate on the other 7 sites I am submitting to is going in the upward direction yet SS is falling off a cliff.  I failed the IS review three times so have only been submitting there for three months and am already catching up with the total upload figures for SS hand over fist.

It feels as though 75% of my rejections are focus issues (and I am not shooting crazy narrow dof stuff) and almost all of the rest from lighting...

As a site I like it a lot, good sales, simple to upload to simple to manage but the most frustrating thing is not knowing what they want, I would be willing to try something different on my shoots specifically with a view to expanding my SS portfoilio but I am not sure how.

Not at all!!!! What if your fellow togs are eejits and are messing up the experience for the buyer?

Quote from: Freedom on June 22, 2011, 00:40
It's simply bad taste to snitch on your fellow photographers.

On the flip side I had the occasion to use DT as a buyer for a client of mine a month ago and was shocked and incredibly frustrated at the poor use of keywords on the system... 

The keywords I did flag were exceptionally tenuous at best and down right ridiculous at worst, I have to say that if I were to be a regular buyer I would possibly look at other stock providors to see if there were any other sites that did not leave me trawlling through vast quantities of images that had no relevance to the search I was making.

I have been submitting there for about 5 months and have about 400 images on line and have noticed that the review times do ebb and flow but am sitting at about 3 weeks now since anything was reviewed and was just wondering if anyone else was having the same issue.

They are proving a reasonable place to upload to with the submission process being really simple and to date fair reviews and sales that put them inside the top 3 for me.

I know that 123RF are not the quickest on turn around for their review times but this month none of my uploads have been reviewed yet and I still have a couple of later submissions from last month pending too.

Anyone else noticed a slow down as this is much longer than the usual review time I experience?

I'm relatively new to the stock photography thingymewatsit (5 months) and submit images to a range of sites, sales at Deposit photos have been almost non existant but I have had 6 downloads in the last 5 days (380images online)...  Not enought to grab a beer but better than nowt I guess.

Thanks for the responses, I have checked the dates and I submitted all the data on Monday, which I understand was a holiday in some parts so will leave until mid week next week before logging a ticket.

Cheers again

Brian

Than you very much

Hi folks...

I am new both to this site and relatively new to the stock photography industry. 

I have a quick question regarding the review times at Canstock and want to see if I can tap into others experiences.  I find the website easy to use and the review turnaround is superb. However in the last week I have uploaded my first images with a model release and they are still awaiting eview and other images have been reviewed and are up on the site.

I am guessing that the model release will be reviewed first and then the images reviewed subsequently, is that a reasonable assumption or is it worth dropping a note to support.

Cheers in advance

Brian