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General Stock Discussion / Re: Experience with Vecteezy?
« on: March 17, 2024, 05:59 »
Strange how they sell 1000 licenses for 5 USD and pay you 14 USD for those 1000 licenses, looks hot deal for them, lol

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We do not provide specific, detailed custom rejection responses as that would extend the wait time for moderation far beyond what it is now. I suggest you post a sample of content you feel was rejected in error here for impartial feedback from the MSG community. It's hard to see our own work through impartial eyes, you may get some feedback that you hadn't thought of before.

Good luck,

Mat Hayward

Hi Matt,

Here is one example of rejected image:


What is the conception here?

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123RF / Re: 123RF sales stopped.
« on: February 27, 2024, 10:24 »
Hi there!
Do you think it's worth starting your 123rf adventure in 2024? I'm a fairly successful contributor on Adobe Stock where my monthly revenue is between $2,000 and $3,000 and my portfolio is 35k images. I'm wondering if it's worth putting my entire portfolio on 123rf and to start uploading there on a regular basis?

I also noticed that they offer PREMIUM or PREMIUM+PLUS sales - which option is better according to your experience?
No

If you do not need additional $100-$200 than do not submit.
Is that every 5 years? Will 123 be in business in 5 years?

No, that is for every month and in accordance of the monthly income and portfolio mentioned above. Ofcourse not every portfolio can make such amounts.

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123RF / Re: 123RF sales stopped.
« on: February 26, 2024, 11:11 »
Hi there!
Do you think it's worth starting your 123rf adventure in 2024? I'm a fairly successful contributor on Adobe Stock where my monthly revenue is between $2,000 and $3,000 and my portfolio is 35k images. I'm wondering if it's worth putting my entire portfolio on 123rf and to start uploading there on a regular basis?

I also noticed that they offer PREMIUM or PREMIUM+PLUS sales - which option is better according to your experience?
No

If you do not need additional $100-$200 than do not submit.

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"Dreamstime makes it extremely easy to upload." 
  extremely?? 

For me it is one of the most tedious to upload, so much so that I hardly upload anything there anymore.  2023 stopped selling me almost nothing, and in 2024 nothing. Port of almost 30k images.

+1

Yes, uploading 10 files is "extremely easy" anywhere, try 100, 1000 will cost you hours while same quantity are uploaded in Adobe in minutes. Dreamstime has a vintage submission system suitable for retired people who have all the time in the world.
Nevertheless it is sympathetic agency and I hope it will be around for many years.

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You are assuming that every customer wants to spend time playing and learning ai.

I know a lot of people with agency plans that tried it but quickly gave up.

Especially when you really are not sure what you are really looking for and need, it is a lot faster to browse a very large database and pick out a few files.

I do believe people will use ai to adapt what they download.

You need to have a basic understanding of photography or video to even prompt what you want. If you dont know what rembrandt lighting is, how different lenses affect an image, what color processing you might prefer etcthere are endless variations. Differences between acrylic and oil color painting or even a percentage wise mix of different art mediait is very complex.

Plus a lot of the people with an agency plan are normal people, not media professionals with years of training.

Again, those who believe it is all over, it is probably best if you readjust your income sources.

But it is not over for everyone.

Agree, just to add one more detail on Ai generated process. It gives us many "superstar" images just in coincidence on many factors all together in the proper moment and prompt, then this great image will be available in the stock agency for cents. You may not reach such a great photo for hours of prompting while one professional who work this will have it routinely in the working process.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is Shutterstock dead?
« on: February 19, 2024, 07:58 »
Yes some are making more in Adobe stock because AI is permitted but the AI models are evolving so fast that in no times customer will no longer need to look into a library. Not a second. They will generate what they want and with tons of option, styles etc. Video will take only a little longer to follow that path but as we saw with SORA just a few days ago it is arriving faster than I thought.

It is a total game over for all stock producer. This will no longer exist in 5 years at most.

Will be as easy as to type and search into a library with Ai images. The advantage in library is that all there is a curated collection for which someone spend his time to generate, select the best and edit, then on second level curated from the agency side. I wouldn't bet on Ai generation over curated Ai collection, but who am I to tell, for example Shutterstock bet on Ai tool exclusively and they are recently "extremely successful"

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Everybody has mobile phones with excellent image and video quality.

And still people buy our images instead of making their own.

Mobile phones certainly don't have "excellent image quality" compared to a real camera. There are worlds between these qualities.

True, but maybe about one percent of all buyers cares about this, the average microstock client needs "a picture to sell the story" no matter super-duper camera, mobile phone, Ai or whatever. Ai photos are very successful and popular, this will happen with the video too, just watch..The content is much more valuable than the quality.

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General - Stock Video / Re: Freepik Wants My Videos For A Price
« on: February 16, 2024, 17:04 »
I see this wrong logic from time to time in discussions. No, no one buyer will search for your image on other agency to buy it cheaper. Even if he want it's almost impossible to find it in the search straight away, as a whole this does not work. Selling in many agencies will only extend your income and competition between them and from there better commissions to the contributors. I'm in this business from 2007 and I'm full-time and I have experienced view on all this.

I agree that individual buyers will generally not search to find a specific image at the cheapest price. However, it does not follow that it's fine to supply free and all-you-can-eat low price agencies.

Over time, and in general (i.e. not for any particular contributor) Unsplash, pexels, the various free sections at agencies are all eroding anyone's ability to make a decent living licensing stock. It used to be that free images were of obviously lower quality than paid ones, but that's no longer true. In looking at uses of an image featured in another thread here there were many hundreds and all the credits I saw were for Unsplash and pexels, not iStock (where it originated).

I've been licensing stock images since 2004 and about the only constants have been agency drives to increase their share of the buyer's money and contributors ignoring long-term harms for short-term cash. Often the excuses of the form "it's all going to hades anyway, so might as well make a little money before it does" or "if I don't someone else will and then I'll lose out on both short and long term"

We are too diverse a group with too many divergent points of view (and many contributors who don't do the math often enough to see what's in their interest and what isn't) to balance out the agencies' power and self interest.

And Freepik's history is deeply unsavory. I wouldn't trust them further than I could throw them. And I'm not all that good at throwing :)

I only point on the fact that is not profitable to reject license posabilities. Not about free images, of course I'll never support this option.

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General - Stock Video / Re: Freepik Wants My Videos For A Price
« on: February 16, 2024, 07:56 »
I see this wrong logic from time to time in discussions. No, no one buyer will search for your image on other agency to buy it cheaper. Even if he want it's almost impossible to find it in the search straight away, as a whole this does not work. Selling in many agencies will only extend your income and competition between them and from there better commissions to the contributors. I'm in this business from 2007 and I'm full-time and I have experienced view on all this.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy Stockimo
« on: January 31, 2024, 15:14 »
Accept AI images instead, much more promising.. ;)

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Adobe Stock / Re: I can't find my approved images on Adobestock
« on: January 26, 2024, 02:06 »
Good day everyone,

I had a batch of images that was approved more than a month ago (approved on mid December). Until now, i couldn't find my own approved images using all the method i could possibly think of including typing, the image id, title, or relevant keywords on different browsers.

Could it be that the images are not indexed hence the fail to appear on the search? ie: some of the images when i typed in the keywords combo, there are only 3 pages come out as a total result for the category. but my images still not appeared on those.

Appreciate if anyone who had encountered a similiar scenario to shed some lights on this matter or to direct me who i can contact with to seek a solution to this matter? Thanks.

The approved are sorted by most recent uploaded first, not recent reviewed/accepted.

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But... did you generate your images with AI yourself? (it seems to be). If the case, you don't own any copyright and you should not even complain.  ::)

In this case he have the rights to sell those images, the other no. A big difference.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Review Time
« on: January 24, 2024, 10:12 »
Adobe Stock reviews are ULTRA fast! Kudos to the editors... absolutely amazing work!

You talk about regular content or AI ?

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A few days ago, 100% of my photos accepted. Today, one more time, 100% acceptation...
Really, it's soooo boring.   ;D ;D ;D
I've got no reason to complain for... 18 Years! (since Fotolia of course)
Hem, guess to understand why...  ??? Rejections were the best way for learning. I know, it's Ok Boomer attitude.

I don't submit the 100ks photos that I took, but my best work. Hey!!!!! try-it!!!
Of course, no use of AI, thanks, I want to be the one who has capacities, not the machine!

It is rare to see such positive and encouraging posts in this forum. Keep on rockin!!!

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am sure Getty/istock will take ai once their legal team has found a way to make it work for them.

If the nvidia generator is good, they might restrict themselves to content created from it.

But if they want to have a good collection, they will need enough suppliers sending in good content.

Shutterstock, at least according to their last comments on their financial reports, seems to think just licensing their media bank for training ai is their new business.

They made 80 million selling stock but already an additional 20 million licensing data. And they seem to be sharing just a minuscule amount of that with creators.

I personally think that is a dead end. Only allowing customers to create content will not build up a stellar ai collection.

But whoever had a great business brain seems to have left for now. They still have editorial and video/pond5 though. And with new and good managers they could turn that ship around very quickly.

The smaller agencies , deposit, envato etc.. will probably start taking ai at some. Perhaps like dreamstime without people content.

At the moment Adobe reigns supreme. They made the best decision and have increased the value of their Adobe stock offering immensely.

And of course the tight integration with ai photoshop tools.

After releasing Midjourney V6 they already lag behind on every level of AI generated image.

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Why the final client have the right to use the image? Because the designer gives them.

Why the designer have the right to use the image? Because the stock agency gives them.

Why the stock agency have the right to sale the image? Because the stock stock photographer gives them.

Why the stock stock photographer have the right to sale the image? Because the AI image generator gives them.

Why the AI image generator owner have the right to sale the image? Because they have created this tool.

Why they have created this tool? Because they are smart and because we can not escape of the future and AI revolution.

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This discussion is very reminiscent of comparing the film image to the first steps of digital. The difference is that the quality in AI images develops 10 times faster and here we don't just have pixels, but compositions, light and everything else.

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Im seeing quite a few.  Adobe is kicking SSs @ss to the curb.

By not allowing external AI content they punish themselves. Adobe just do the right things in accordance to the new reality.

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I've hit a bit of a snag with my AI-generated content. Lately, about 75% of my stuff is getting the thumbs down, even though I'm using the same tools and upscaler as always. I get that Adobestock is all about top-notch images, and that's 100% the way is SHOULD be. But this sudden drop in acceptance in 2024 feels like a seismic change.  Something's definitely up.

Maybe it's something with DALL-E or Topaz Photo AI, or maybe Adobestock have changed their game. It would be super helpful to get the lowdown on this. Knowing what's going on would let me tweak my process and set my expectations right for what Adobestock is looking for now.

Why not consider that the people who are looking for something are above all the customers? they are the ones who pay... ::)
And many customers don't want AI generated stuff.
Be sure Adobe is starting to know this.

There is a filter and they can filter non AI stuff if preferred.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: January 08, 2024, 07:55 »
I think it will become really difficult for actual photo amateurs to improve their photo skills by uploading to stock agencies.

The quality coming in with ai content, even from complete art amateurs, is just so much better.

Real commercial photography will become a domain of professional photographers, like real oil paintings only done by actual masters of the craft.

But I think the value of editorial photography will go up, as will photography with real models and real people, but only if it is done in a highly localized environment or subjects that need to be correct for the genre - medical, engineering etc...also gardening with real flowers and not ai mixed hybrids or real animals and underwater life that is genuine and not ai created.

If you keep this in mind, there is a huge field of content that can be worked on, especially if you add latin names to flora and fauna that should be even more valuable than now.

Just to clarify "Real commercial photography" will be back as domain of professional photographers.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: January 08, 2024, 07:08 »
AI generated photos sells now absolutely successful, the clients do not care from what source the image come as long as it will "sell the story".

In the near future the final client will have the option to create the desired AI images much easy and fast than now, but nothing can replace the successful image proven in the search engine with many sales, so I think there is a space for search in real photos or AI photos or to generate personal image. We'll see, but one thing is sure very soon the real images will be a very tiny part of all stock photo base. No one can stop this, lol

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Adobe Stock / Re: Review time
« on: January 08, 2024, 04:28 »
I find my weekly upload of 25 images are reviewed in 1 week - However the last 2 weeks every single image has been rejected due to quality which is ridiculous as they are no different in quality from my other 8000 approved images and I have never had more than 1 or 2 rejections each week historically......will see what happened this week!

Had exactly the same thing. Last saturday I uploaded some AI-images in the same quality as some I did before (and which already sold on Adobe Stock). All of them were rejected about 12 hours later because of quality issues. This is very strange. They usually take weeks to review and now in the weekend they can review with in 12 hours?

GOOD NEWS! thx
Only consider that the time of human AI prompters maybe already finished. Adobe knows they will propose directly AI generation in the hands of their customers, with real time quality evolution.

Yes, but not that soon.

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Good looking images. Better use Topaz Gigapixel for upscaling.

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To me this topic is useless in the forum if there is no discussion on the particular problem with the problematic examples, it looks like personal problem between contributor and Adobe, but not professional. I can't believe in this, by my experience Adobe do it's job professional. But maybe there is some private case and better contact Mat or Adobe directly, if you don't want to share your images, something I understand.

About the AI quality, the agencies evaluate the quality based on the current state of the technology, just like istock in 2002 for example with the image sensor quality compared to the film photography, this is normal.

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