For me is some 10-15$ magic... stuff each month, nothing changed.

https://www.freepik.com/author/dembaxx here's a portfolio made entirely with AI tools. Far down to the oldest "creations", the images look like crap. But the newer ones are increasingly better. Have a look at the captions and keywords, for a good laugh.

Two hours in 5 years.
These two hours have been spent in the last week.

I'm in. 44000 images portfolio. Videos (2000) are already disabled and will stay that way.

Here's an idea: A petition stating that on 1st of July all the contributors that sign it will disable their portfolios for 3 days.
Now - for this to work it's necessary to reach big contributors with big portfolios, to really make an impact. It's a matter mostly of how to contact them, rather than them doing the 3-days pullout, because I saw on forums contributors with hundreds of thousands of images saying they will stop uploading. If the petition gathers only level 3-4 portfolios with few hundreds to few thousands images it's no good.
BUT, imagine that if we muster a total of 30% of the whole SS library to simply disappear for 3 days, it would definitely make an impact, like a strike. Surely, the big contributors will take a pay hit but they're already taking what SS served us, so I'm thinking it's worth it.
The meaning of this would be for SS to acknowledge the fact that without us they're not worth not even 10 cents and to listen.
I am doing stock full time, I have a portfolio of almost 50.000 images and some 2500 videos and I cannot simply disable my portfolio forever. I need to sustain my family and the SS money MUST come in. However, I stopped uploading and will not resume until all this is cleared up and we know where we stand. Also, I can and I am willing to take a 3 day even 5 day paycut, just to smack SS in the back of the head and let them know that they have to change their appalling royalties scheme. Or there can be strike 2, strike 3 and so on.
In my view, this would be more effective than some bad reviews on trustpilot and whatnot, but we have to get together on this somehow. I never made a petition or whatever is needed to put this idea in practice, therefore I encourage more learned people to do it.

Quote from: Tabimura on August 02, 2017, 02:53

They kept a minuscule amount of images out of my 20k portfolio (while sending me emails of praise about the high quality of my content) and logically, those aren't generating any sales. I waited a month, got zero sales, told them to delete my images, close my account and sod off. What a bunch of imbeciles!
In the praise email they even specified photos they especially liked that were actually NOT selected from my portfolio. Sent them an email "uhm, you know, those pictures you liked so bad were not selected", got a reply with "hang on, my bad..." and that told me everything I needed to know about their new approach to fcking things up.

I guess I am one of those imbeciles you are referring to. Nothing to say except to apologise that the experience wasn't great. There's been a lot of learning through this. We're doing a lot of training with our team of reviewers and in a few instances, they were off the mark in terms of our standards and what photos met those standards.

You're not the only one who was frustrated about sending emails to people with work done to try and find examples that we liked and that we thought weren't quite right, only to have the ones we liked identified for disablement.

Based on a few threads I've seen around here though, it appears that Envato is not alone in trying to figure out how to balance the size of the library with changing customer needs.

We're working hard to create a better experience for photographers. PhotoDune has gone through a massive amount of change in the last few months and we're on the tail end of that now. We've gone through the introduction of ADP (being able to set your own prices for items), removing content that doesn't meet our requirements, introducing a new way to earn with Elements, and soon, a redesign of PhotoDune. That's a lot in under a year and there are bound to be mistakes and crossed lines.

I think there's like 1.2 trillion photos expected in 2017 which creates a need for stock content that stands out amongst what someone can produce with a low-end DSLR or smartphone. The good old days of stock are over. At Envato, we're hoping to create a sustainable earning environment for photographers. We're looking for creators to join our community who understand the industry is changing and are willing to try new ways of earning with higher-end content.

I hope you'll reconsider disabling your account but if that ship has sailed, maybe there are others here willing to try something new, feel free to reach out to me directly.

Yes James, you are one of them... unfortunately. I don't know who's doing the math at Envato right now but things like "we're hoping to create a sustainable earning environment for photographers", "new ways of earning with higher-end content", "new way to earn with Elements" not backed up by anything, at the same time leaving people with irrelevant-sized portfolios is not gonna fly for anyone. Many of us have lots of years of working with stock and are not willing to start rebuilding portfolios from scratch because Envato thinks that good old days of stock are over. Also many of us still get the vast majority of photography-related income selling stock which is not quite dead. Want to sell different, higher priced content? Macrostock or sites like Stocksy, Offset are already doing it. If you need an example of something that REALLY is new and works, take a look at Canva. They are the newest in my book and already in the top 4 earners. Envato? Almost vanished my portfolio, left me with a handful of images and I got an absolute zero, from a regular 70-100$ / month. That's a no-no for me so yea, I had your people remove my account. Good luck with whatever you're doing there.

I wonder if all my latest sales coming from below equator is a coincidence. Given the completely abnormal numbers I'm getting in my stats (my nearly 30k size portfolio produces half the sales of 2 years ago), I'm not convinced.

Reviews are indeed picking up and so are sales. I'm quite happy with Canva!

Took them a few days, but my 12.500 images are off DPC.

See my comments in red. I'm looking forward for a future version.

Quote from: Tabimura on January 28, 2014, 04:44

Also, the timeout for getting my SS sales is about 3 minutes (extremely long!). See the attached screenshots. First one is when I tap on Shutterstock and second one is exactly when I get the data. Look at the time. This being the third time in a row when requesting sales. Caching does not do much good, it appears.
You might want to think of getting sales by day, not by month. It may be fast for contributors with few sales, but for 1000-2000 sales per month is dead slow.

Thank you Tabimura for your feedback, lets start with Photodune

- for Photodune the app is reading just the monthly sales, for example if the date is 2 Feb and you didn't open the app for 3 days and you had sales in the last day of january the you will see a badge with new earnings as the app see you have different balance but you will not see anything in the sales list because there are no sales in Feb. - I open the app daily and I have daily sales on Photodune, so that's not the case. It should show me my sales.

- for Shutterstock, yes we cache data and we only count first 50 sales because only these sales are relevant, also the app must do 3 requests to SS website in order to load 1 sold image if is not cached and it can take a lot of time for 50 images, next time you open the app (you said you have 1000-2000 sales / month) there will be 50 new sales different from the ones the app already cached and it's taking same amount of time, right now we cannot do more optimizations because none of the major agencies have an API that provide stats for contributors and we need to update the app for each website (if the website changes), so we are monitoring and get feedback from users every day. - I am having 2000+ sales monthly on SS and the app is reasonably fast in the first 2-3 days. Also, if you get only the first 50 sales this means I'm never going to get a full day of sales. On the other hand, I have a suggestion: put the number of sales next to the amount of money. You can very easy take it from this page http://submit.shutterstock.com/stats.mhtml

Paul, Photodune is still not working. See in the first screenshot that I had sales (the blue dots over the amount of money). In the second screenshot you see what I get when I tap on Photodune.

Quote from: Tabimura on December 24, 2013, 15:20

Just bought the app. The concept is nice, the implementation still suffers. I also have bought some of the payed "plugin agencies" or whatever they're called and I just found out that:

- Shutterstock is very slow (maybe because there are many sales or whatever but still...)
- Photodune is not working - it shows the total amount, but when I go to details says "no recent sales" which is false. Same problem to canstockphoto.
- 123RF figures are completely wrong, as are Alamy's.
- Alamy shows the total amount, it should also show the cleared amount otherwise is not very useful.

LE: ClipDealer amount is also wrong.

Shutterstock is slow first time when you load the sales and it will cache them, next time will be faster
Photodune: for this agency we show just the latest images sold in the current month, if you dont have sales this month you will see this message
Alamy and 123RF, ClipDealer can you please write us at [email protected] about these problems so we can fix them as no other user reported issues, maybe there is something different with your account and the app cannot access the relevant info

Thank you
Happy Holidays

Shutterstock is slow every single time I open it. I tried on various internet providers, with the same result.
Photodune: I am having daily sales there, I just had one right now and the program isn't showing anything. Just the total amount.
Alamy: you are getting the "balance carried forward" value, from here http://www.alamy.com/statement.asp and you should have also the "cleared balance" - thats the money that are ready to be payed.
123RF: its just wrong, very simple. It shows about a third of my current sales and when I go to details, the "latest sales" are since 3rd Dec.
ClipDealer: its plain wrong, it should show the value from this page https://eu.clipdealer.com/index.php?ACTION=profile&page=provision  and instead of that it shows a completely arbitrary value. Also, its in $ instead of euro - and no, is not due to conversion. As an idea, the amount shown in your program is bigger than the real amount.

Suggestion: it would be nice to have somewhere written the number of sales per current day for every agency. If I want to see how many files I sold on SS I need to scroll like crazy and count them one by one.

My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S3 so its powerful enough for anything.

Just bought the app. The concept is nice, the implementation still suffers. I also have bought some of the payed "plugin agencies" or whatever they're called and I just found out that:

- Shutterstock is very slow (maybe because there are many sales or whatever but still...)
- Photodune is not working - it shows the total amount, but when I go to details says "no recent sales" which is false. Same problem to canstockphoto.
- 123RF figures are completely wrong, as are Alamy's.
- Alamy shows the total amount, it should also show the cleared amount otherwise is not very useful.

LE: ClipDealer amount is also wrong.