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Veer / Re: Veer Subscription Royalties Update
« on: September 30, 2011, 23:15 »
Big thanks to the Veer team for listening to our concerns. Huge thumbs up.

I'll be opting back in shortly...

Veer / Re: veer subs
« on: September 27, 2011, 22:06 »

The .10 and the pitiful EL are total deal breakers.  

Agreed - I just opted out.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: Resuming uploads to istock
« on: June 05, 2011, 12:52 »
They insist that every pixel be perfect, and in return I am rewarded with ever lower royalties and a continual decline in earnings.

That's my biggest beef with IS. The fact that they require my images to be technically *perfect* for only 16% royalty is nothing but a slap across the face. I admit that I uploaded a few images there about a week ago (for the first time in over 9 months) - but I've since changed my mind and I am continuing my boycott.

3d illustrator here.

I get a steady handful of requests for custom work through the microstock sites, but I hardly ever do it. Most of the time I never hear from them again once I quote a price.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock royalty cut goes live
« on: January 11, 2011, 22:59 »
I just have to repost this immortal quote from that gorgeous "contact sheet":

"And I must say, thank you to everyone for helping iStock with an exceptional year. With your hard work, we continue to meet and exceed our goals."

Hell will freeze, and thaw, and go through countless more climate cycles before these people get another photo from me based on the commission structure listed in that document. 


Shocked to see the poll showing 43% (at the time of this writing) saying that they are carrying on as normal.


iStock has you all by the you-know-what, and you're delusional if you think it won't get any worse than this. IMHO, iStock now knows that the majority of it's contributors will take whatever they will give them and it won't be long until they trim commissions yet again. I guarantee it.

It makes me wonder what the heads of the other agencies are thinking behind the scenes...

Have some pride in your work and take control of it. Build your own website. Do freelance work (which, by the way, pays a LOT better than microstock). Don't be so dependent on "the man" - because he sure as hell doesn't have your best interest in mind.

Bigstock.com / Re: Odd sales pattern here, too
« on: January 03, 2011, 23:20 »
Big thanks to Scott and the BigStock team for working so hard to clear this mess up. I'm not so happy that someone managed to walk away with a lot of my images, but hey - that's the risk we take by putting stuff online I suppose.

Props to BigStock!

Bigstock.com / Re: Odd sales pattern here, too
« on: January 01, 2011, 13:53 »
What a pisser. Over 60 of my images (many of them my best sellers) have been ripped off in this round of fraud. As it stands right now, I have no idea what my true earnings were for December, and when I try to request a payout, it says that I have an insufficient account balance to do so. I know that's not correct, so I hope this gets resolved soon.

option G: stopped uploading when they made the announcement, their competitors get all the new stuff unless they make some changes in my favor for a change.


iStockPhoto.com / Re: Is iStock getting pickier
« on: October 03, 2010, 13:35 »
Simple solution - stop uploading. I wish everyone would just stop uploading to Getty, especially the independents. You keep uploading and what sort of message does that send to Getty - that it's OK to rip-off their loyal contributors? Do you really want to see the other micros follow Getty's greedy example? Because that's where this is leading to we don't don't find an effective means of protesting the commission cut. Ten cents a download anyone?

Can't say it any better myself. Spot on.

I stopped uploading the day of the announcement, but I haven't deactivated any images. Chances of me uploading anything more at iStock is slim to none.

You can see why they choose to rob us in cyberspace rather than mug old ladies in the street; my old gran would've dropped every single one of them!


Makes me want to puke. Greedy corporate fat cats right there - all of them.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock: No Compromise
« on: September 15, 2010, 17:07 »
Probably most offensive to me is the bit about grandfathering and how the new structure is a 'fresh start and a level playing field',

announced a week after the deadline iStock gave non-exclusives to become exclusive in order to lock in their next royalty level.

Shameful, rude, and downright dishonest.

Which is why all exclusives who wish to give up their crown should start uploading to other sites now, and tell iStock to pound sand about the 30-day notice in the contract.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: Money where my mouth is.
« on: September 15, 2010, 16:22 »
you should resent "iStock" gouging your livlihood...one of us just doesn't get it... *sigh*
I'm sure a lot of exclusives do resent it but feel effectively trapped. They have so much invested at IStock they feel there is no way out.
However, those who chose to throw there lot in with Getty will be even deeper in in two or three years when they are the ones on 15%.
It's take a stand or take a shafting for the rest of your micro career.
Don't be scared, you might think that you'll have a short term loss in income but it'll beat the long term loss you'll face as Getty slowly continues stripping away your percentage.
It's time to start negotiating with other agencies, it's gonna get harder not easier to disentangle yourselves, sooner the better.

Quoted for truth. Excellent post, and spot on.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: Money where my mouth is.
« on: September 15, 2010, 16:20 »
Taking a stand based on what? Well done.

You really think that Getty is being fair?

iStockPhoto.com / Re: Money where my mouth is.
« on: September 15, 2010, 16:18 »
Lisa - I'm not an apologist, I think your approach on this one couldn't be more wrong. Sadly, hate seeing you on this bandwagon. I resent you and others gouging my livelihood. I hope they don't kowtow, it will set another terrible precedent and I'm tired of these protests.

Do you really believe that iStock (Getty) has your best intentions in mind? Take a stand for yourself and have some respect for your work! Getty (like any corporation) is in business for one reason only: to make money. I can assure you with nearly 100% certainty that they don't give a crap about you or your portfolio - you are merely a number to them (a expendable number) and yet you are defending them to the very end.

I don't mean to sound rude, and I'm not trying to insult you. Take some pride in your work and start branching out. Join other microstock sites. Launch your own website. Dive into macro. IMHO, depending so heavily on one company (Getty) is foolish.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: So what are we all going to do?
« on: September 14, 2010, 22:44 »
I've stopped all uploads to iStock - it's unlikely they will get anything more from me as long as they are paying such low royalties.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: Money where my mouth is.
« on: September 14, 2010, 22:33 »
Here's why nothing will change...

I only wish my own financial position...

Wish I could afford...

doing the same, if I could afford...

I can't afford to ...

There is nothing wrong with the above sentiments. It's just that you can't hope to enact change when you have no bargaining position.

Bingo. Stopping all uploads and removing our portfolio's is the only way to make istock take notice. It's a shame. Last week we were all calling for blood, and now it seems that most are unwilling to follow through and do what is right to make a difference.

Istock (Getty) is going to come out a winner in all this. They know they have us by the you-know-what, and they are going to get what they want. The scary thing is that other microstock agencies are watching this unfold, and it's only a matter of time before they all start trimming royalties too. Why? Because this whole fiasco is proving that they could get away with it if they want to and 99% of the contributors are going to accept it.

If we accept this, we are sheep.

Veer / Re: Veer? what are they doing??
« on: September 13, 2010, 22:41 »
It is kind of discouraging. I have a batch of images waiting for review since July 6th!  :-\

StockFresh / Re: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff
« on: September 11, 2010, 12:55 »
I'm doing what I can to help Stockfresh become successful - I just applied for an account today, and I plan to upload my entire portfolio there (regardless of how much traffic they have right now). Of all the "wannabe" sites out there right now, SF looks the best. It even feels like the old StockXpert.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock changing royalty structure
« on: September 10, 2010, 17:48 »
They just updated everyone again.  They are sticking to their previous statements:


Then I guess that's it. I have no motivation (or sound business reasoning) to upload there anymore.

Another one bites the dust.  :-[

General Stock Discussion / Re: August 2010 Earnings Breakdown
« on: September 01, 2010, 22:57 »
No need for an individual breakdown of site stats, when the most important number is this:

My earnings are down 28% from August 2009 despite having increased my portfolio by nearly 1/3.


iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sales slump
« on: August 26, 2010, 22:04 »
They must have flipped a switch or something (or someone kicked the server) because things suddenly look better this week. Not great, but much better than the last six weeks or so!

Veer / Re: Review time
« on: August 20, 2010, 22:48 »
I have images from July 6th that still haven't been reviewed. Kind of kills any motivation I had to upload more...

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