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I was on several sites and dumped them all for istock because they showed the strongest sales, and I enjoyed working with them the most. But what everybody says here about it not really being a lucrative endeavor is very true. To make real money you have to work really hard. I don't have time to put that kind of effort into it, so I slowly grow my portfolio and watch the sales slowly come in. It earns enough for me to buy new lenses and other gear, and it is something I enjoy doing.

But forget about the money for a minute the one thing stock did for me is improve my shooting overall. Today my photos are better exposed, sharper and better compositions than before I shot for stock. The process taught me to look at my photos with a critical eye, and all of my photos benefit from that, even the family holiday shots. And as a graphic designer I shoot for my clients now with confidence, and make more money on that than I do on stock. But I still upload, and enjoy stock when I have time for it.

So my advice is to pick the agency that is hard to get into, has high standards, and an engaging forum because at the end of the day you will become a much better photographer than choosing the easy road. And if you love photography, that will be a better reward than the few dollars you will make.

My recommendation is istock, but there are other good ones too. Every body has a favorite and a bias. Just like Nikon or Canon, Fender Stratocaster or Gibson Les Paul, BMW or Audi. Do some research (as you are doing with this forum) and pick the one that feels right based on what you have learned.

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If you quote a fair price based on hourly rate (anywhere between $50 to $150 per hour) and the client says no, you have lost nothing. It is not worth your time to work for any less than that. Just because the photo sold for cheap doesn't mean your time is not worth anything. Chances are the client will have no problem with the cost. He/she won't find the service any cheaper elsewhere. Unless they figure out a way to get hold of madelaide!  ;)  

Do it free or charge appropriately - but nothing inbetween!

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Unfortunately, our views and opinions as contributors have very little power or influence, regardless how much we voice them. I am a buyer as well as a contributor, and from my experience the buyers don't really care or even know about any of this. They need images, they buy them. It doesn't matter what site they buy from because they all have more or less what they are looking for. And the buyers will pay the lowest price, because they can. If prices go up, buyers will pay more. Simple as that. It was not many years ago I was paying hundreds for stock images. I remember telling clients that stock prices have gone down lately, and we can buy an RF image from Corbis for a few hundred dollars instead of thousands for RM, and we were thrilled. Consumer demand is not what has driven prices down, it is competition that has pushed prices down to mere pennies. As much as it sucks to see SX go down (for those who have built up big portfolios there) - maybe it is good to have some competition removed from the industry. With less competition fighting for the lowest price, it might be easier for the bigger players to push prices back up. Maybe (said with hesitation...) this is a step toward positive change. maybe it has to get worse before it gets better. As dismal as things are, I can't help but be optimistic that things in general will improve for the microstock industry. Because the demand for images will continue, and the industry will have to evolve into something that works... eventually. But it's easy for me to say this because my SX port is small and my sales never developed there. So I personally won't miss them.

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Off Topic / Re: How to help a friend ?
« on: June 15, 2009, 00:30 »
I don't think you should be surprised about the response. We all get emails or hear sad stories about people needing money for all sorts of seemingly legitimate reasons. And we each individually determine which we believe to be true and deem worthy to support. In this case you are close to your information, and you have a gut feeling that it is real. This is great, and your efforts are surely appreciated by Vanessa. But for everybody else, or at least for me it is another story. Maybe it's real. Maybe not. I have no way of knowing. And because I don't have the friendship you have with Vanessa, I can't have that 'gut' feeling you have, and it would be difficult to communicate it . The fact you got a poor response does not mean people are not generous or caring. I personally give of my time and money to an assortment of causes. If I have to choose whether to help your cause, or to help the cause I am much closer to and feel more secure in helping - I am going to choose the one where I KNOW my money or time is going somewhere it is needed. This world is not a trusting place, therefore it is a lot to ask for people to support this. Having said that, I admire your efforts in trying to help your friend, and I hope that you succeed in raising funds. And I wish the best to Vanessa and her mother.

Sidenote - The majority of microstock shooters work very hard and make very little for their efforts. Not the best crowd for finding charity dollars!


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Off Topic / Re: I love these emails....
« on: June 08, 2009, 16:28 »
I believe her - don't you?? Be sure to send her all of your bank accounts, credit card numbers, social insurance number, date of birth, full name, address, photo, and all of your microstock user names and passwords. Only then will sweet Tabitha be able to generously send you her money.

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Writing for any other industry would be paid based on hours or wordcount - but not microstock!
Everything is free in microstock - If rates keep dropping, soon photos will be free too!

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I for one, will NOT send the IRS any of my personal information. If that means I don't submit to SS anymore then so be it. I have enough of a problem with my own government knowing too much about me. I'll be damned if I allow the IRS to breath down my neck as well. Who knows, once you sign up with them, maybe you get a statement in the mail for back taxes for that eBay transaction two years ago, or the camera lens you bought and had shipped. I am Canadian, and have nothing against the US (love it there, love the people) and I also am a tax payer. I pay honestly and declare my earnings. But for me this is unacceptable, whether it is the law or not. Not to mention that SS already pays too little for images in the first place.

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I think this is a great idea. The biggest thing slowing me down is the submitting process. I have hundreds of images waiting, but I run a design studio as a 'real job' and getting my submissions up is the biggest hurdle. I would consider doing this.

For people like me that are perpetually busy with work, and bill by the hour - taking a few hours out to submit photos every week costs me a few hours at my billable hourly rate, because I could be spending that time on clients and getting paid for it. The more I think about this, the more it makes sense.

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General Photography Discussion / Re: Shameless Self Promotion
« on: April 20, 2009, 10:06 »
...she wrote a book about some new age  "ego rythm", the kind of voodoo that only gullible desperate housewives fall for.

That makes me laugh - you nailed the audience, and I know several such house wives that would take interest!



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General Photography Discussion / Re: Shameless Self Promotion
« on: April 19, 2009, 01:56 »
Flemish - in response to your post #53 above...

I will defend Beate Chelette to this extent. She does not claim to teach people about the business of microstock. Her goal is to teach people about the business of photography - which reaches far beyond microstock. She saw a forum of photographers (her target audience) and she went after it. It's called marketing (the business we are all in as Zeus pointed out). The majority of microstock contributors are photographers first, and microstock shooters second or third. For many it is a way to make a few bucks on the side, while they make their real money doing something else. I think she has every right to post here and promote herself, especially when she makes no apologies for what she is doing. As you have a right to tear her apart, and I have a right to comment about it. Yes it would be nice to see more of her work, but again she is promoting a course on the 'business of photography'. Whether she herself is a great photographer or not isn't important, she doesn't necessarily need to be a great photographer to be an authority on this, she just needs to know the difference and know what she claims to deliver - the business side of photography. Many great design firms or ad agencies are not necessarily run by great designers, but by people who know 'the business' of design and advertising.

Granted, her website is tacky and her approach is not what I would typically respond to. Criticize her for that, but to suggest she does not know her business because she doesn't have her own microstock portfolio is not relevant to the argument.  And to say a microstock shooter doesn't need to know the business side of photography is to assume all microstock photographers are happy to just shoot microstock. How many would be thrilled to be out shooting commercially two or three times a week in addition to (or instead of) microstock.  I think you could cut her some slack. Let her post and promote, and let people choose for themselves what they feel is good information for where they want to go with photography.

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Yesterday was average for me - but the files selling are not my usual favorites, so maybe some of the deeper ones are rising up...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: would I do well on SS?
« on: April 17, 2009, 12:30 »
Stacy, With your portfolio, the downloads you are getting seem too low! Your images are good.
I started with the expectation to go exclusive at IS, but then, just as I passed the 250 download mark, the best match shake happened and I was very turned off. I said to hell with it and joined some other sites in January. Figured I'd give non-exclusive a chance first and then decide instead of always wondering. For what it's worth, my portfolio of 102 images on shutterstock consistently gets between 4 and 8 downloads per day. But that is at $0.30 each. I would thing you could expect 20 times that amount, so maybe it's worth it. The trick with shutterstock is not to dump everything there all at once. Send a few a day every day over a long period and the sales will remain steady. But other sites don't do nearly as well for me. Some say to give it time. On each of BS, FT, SX and DT I am hanging between $10 and $40 total, so they don't seem to be doing well. But others rave about DT and FT. Hey Stacy - I am a canuck too (Calgary), and have clients in your town that you probably know!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: would I do well on SS?
« on: April 16, 2009, 23:58 »
Stacy

I am not the veteran you ask for - sorry for barging in... But, did I read somewhere that an istock exclusive that chooses non-exclusive will loose all photos uploaded since exclusivity? They all need to be uploaded and reviewed again as a non-exclusive? I hope that is incorrect because that seems harsh. If it is true then in my opinion I would definitely stay as you are. The build would be slow everywhere else and it would take a long time to get back to the sales you are used to. But again... My port is way smaller than yours, I base this only on what I read in forums.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Sales on Shutterstock vs. Fotolia
« on: April 16, 2009, 16:08 »
If there is a big secret to Fotolia I'd like to know it! I get a mere 2 or 3 sales a month. Plus a lot of rejected files.

Stockastic - your IS experience is not uncommon. Same happened to me where I got accepted with three photos and then two out of the three were rejected when submitted. I believe that the acceptance process is judging the composition, sense of stockworthiness, and basic things like that. Once they deem you worthy to supply stock to them, then they hammer you on the little details artifacting, purple fringing and model release etc. - assuming you have the basic stock skills and now just need to refine the details. It works because I quickly learned to deal with those little nasties and now my approval rating at IS is quite strong compared to what it used to be. And if you can crank out some vectors, they can be very lucrative. I have just a handful and the sell very well!

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General - Top Sites / Re: Sales on Shutterstock vs. Fotolia
« on: April 16, 2009, 13:52 »
Same here - For me SS is doing better than FT, DT, BS and SX combined. But better yet is IS in first place. Fewer sales but more dollars per sale.
stockastic - what is the "bad attitude" you are getting at IS? Sure there are a few exclusives with big egos, but generally as a company I find them to be very professional and service oriented to contributors - whether exclusive or not. The upload is a bit of a pain, but worth it in my opinion - lots of views and daily sales. Even with a relatively small portfolio.

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General Photography Discussion / Re: Shameless Self Promotion
« on: April 14, 2009, 20:05 »
Photosecrets - as you can see you found a tough crowd here. Remember that there are hundreds who read and do not post, so I have no doubt that you have achieved your goal of picking up some customers here. Admirably, your responses to the mean-spirited bashing have been respectful and professional, when you could have easily retaliated with similar tone. I wish you well!

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General - Top Sites / Re: Sales on Shutterstock vs. Fotolia
« on: April 09, 2009, 22:56 »
Okay I get it - this will help, thanks! I will give it a whirl.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Sales on Shutterstock vs. Fotolia
« on: April 09, 2009, 18:16 »
Flemmish - I took a look at your script, but I don't think I understand it. How will it change how I currently input data to an image? - Maybe I am missing something, I will look at it again. thanks.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Sales on Shutterstock vs. Fotolia
« on: April 09, 2009, 16:39 »
lisafx - thanks for those tips. I am aware that there are different keywording nuances at different sites, but I am still learning what they are. I started at istock, and have learned keywording based on their system, and maybe it doesn't work so well for other sites. I don't know why DT is doing so poorly for me - only $9 there in three months. I know my portfolio is small, but I thought it would be doing better compared to istock and shutterstock. I have only 116 files up on DT and an acceptance rate of 72% - maybe that is not high enough. So maybe that, and I suspect that maybe my keywording is to blame, but I am not really sure what to do differently. If you have any suggestions, I am listening!! If you care to have a peek, my username on DT is 'wpohldesign'

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General - Top Sites / Re: Sales on Shutterstock vs. Fotolia
« on: April 09, 2009, 15:55 »
Lisafx, I always like to read your posts because they come from experience.

Markbkk - I have the same experience as you - with approx 100 images across six sites, and SS has earned $150 in two months, compared to fotolia selling only $23. IS sells better than SS with over $200 in the same timeframe (but more images there - I started earlier). DT, BS and SX all are in the toilet, not just fotolia. I am hoping that what lisafx says rings true eventually, and that sales will improve on the slower sites after some time. My plan is to give them all a year to gauge whether it is working. lisafx, do you think that is enough time to determine where the revenue comes from?


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Success criteria for an image
« on: April 06, 2009, 14:43 »
I agree that it is all dependent on the time invested. An image or vector that took hours to produce needs to earn much more than a snapshot taken out of the kitchen window. But time in the portfolio is a factor - maybe it takes a year or two before the return is realized.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Exclusively everywhere but IStock
« on: March 31, 2009, 10:05 »
There are a lot of exclusives at istock providing high quality images. I don't think they need to open the gates to get more images or better images. As others stated, the restrictions on non-exclusives make sure that istock stays unique - with exclusive files, and only the better files from non-exclusives. I think they have it figured out, and I would be surprised if they made any changes making it easier for non-exclusives. There is no shortage of contributors - exclusive or non-exclusive. Don't hold your breath for changes to non-exclusive at istock.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: New to Istock ~ Not having Much Success
« on: March 31, 2009, 01:53 »
I submit to six sites, and istock is my favorite of the bunch. I find the reviews are fair and the community of contributors is alive and vibrant. My portfolio is small - just 166 images currently, but I see sales daily - usually between two and five downloads per day and growing. I live in Calgary where the istock HQ is located, and I have gotten to know people who work for istock. I believe they are a solid and ethical company. In my opinion, if you can get in, it is worth it. They are in it for the long term. IS and SS make up 85% of my monthly sales. BS and FT make up 12%. DT and SX compete for last place. I understand my port is small and some of the sites take time before they start to perform - so I keep at it and hope for the best. Thank goodness IS and SS are there to keep me motivated to continue shooting and uploading. Without them I would have thrown in the towel!

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Dreamstime.com / Re: I hate the DT new search engine !
« on: March 30, 2009, 21:44 »
I have 100 files up and have barely sold anything since starting in January with them - I do much better on other sites like SS and IS. I hope this change at DT might be a good thing and bring about some sales for those of us that have seen nothing so far. But as of today - still no improvements, still at $9 for weeks now.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Lifetime Microstock Goals
« on: March 30, 2009, 11:29 »
I'm doing $150 per month right now
My goal is to multiply that by ten to $1500 per month.
If I get there, then I can entertain thoughts of lifetime goals!
One step at a time.

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