http://blog.zazzle.com/2013/07/10/bigstock-images-now-on-zazzle/


Anyone selling on microsites like shutterstock and others might want to read the contract very, very closely. This is part of the reason some of the biggest named photograhers are leaving shutterstock and other place.

Well if one site has a buggy upload system its FAA. In the year that I am submitting there, it hasnt worked once without failing. Unless you upload one image at a time, and that does produce errors as well at times. No need to report it though, they ignore it as they do with a lot of problems.

That is interesting as I have been there many years and have no problem other than using the Qucik Create feature which sucks and I like designing each product individually.  I have over 200,000 products on my stores and half of that uploaded there in designs and although its a learning curve I can pretty much kick butt there by using pre made templates   for everything,


There is a entire section of tutorials, and if you got to Youtube hundreds of videos for creating, designing you stores, and more.


Edit... talking about Zazzle sorry see we got into FAA but Zazzle for me is far superior than any other POD and it takes up to72 hours to appear in your store     some have to be approved so if they seem to dissapear go to your in progress file they are probably there.   

Minus you?  Sorry not sure what you mean however was replying to the laughing at and comments about the company.   Here is a good friend of mine that has over 72,000 results of her designs.

Again was just responding to someone wanting to know if there was a place to make money that works.  We are use to seeing POD's its a strange page for sure but it works for what I need it.. we all have just learned to let them do what they do and collect our pay.. maybe should of warned ya but never thought of it ...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3drose+Dooni+Designs&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A3drose+Dooni+Designs

Thanks Tony Ray . I was also considering zazzle.

Did you ever find a better alternative and better experience else where?

You are welcome, yes I did but it was through a invite it is called 3Drose.  It is not your typical POD, you upload all your art in one size format and they put it on their products and sell at Amazon, Sears, and 38 other networks so far.  No posters and their system is kinda limited for designing different items properly but I have faith they will be expanding and its nice to see over 5,000 of my designs when I go to Amazon and all over the search engines.  And volume is the key with them a different concept but I will take the money!!

Tony, thanks for the detailed history of what's going on at Zazzle.  Sounds all to familiar to those of us in microstock. 

I appreciate this thread very much, because my next project was slated to be creating a store and stocking it with products in Zazzle.  I have been procrastinating because it is such a huge undertaking.  Now I don't have to bother. 

Sad to see POD following down the path of cr@pping on creatives. 

Quote from: TonyRay on June 13, 2013, 15:16

I have been with Zazzle since 2005 in fact many of us were recruited from Cafepress by Zazzle and many of us ended up making a good living there.  We also referred hundreds of people to Zazzle.  Many of us now are banned from the forums at Zazzle as of last May we saw some disturbing changes coming about.  When we posted about these we were banned some of us even threatened to have our stores closed and our earnings pending ceased.

From what we have all observed first the referral system was changed.  Those of us who were making referrals were now unable to get them almost 90 percent of the times we tried no matter what we have done.  Zazzle refused as it has to date that there were any changes, but blames it on our browsers , time outs, cookies but nothing wrong even though we know how to refer our efforts no longer work,  In fact people that do not refer are now sometimes getting referrals which we have figured to be a glitch on the changes they made this system.

The affiliates came in around this same time frame and pretty much told us who they will and will not promote.  Since that time the game changes every few months.  And yes now the affiliates get it all and all and that is ALL of our incentives have been taken away, or we are punished if we set our royalties above 15 percent and now urged to 5 percent which is just a matter of time that will be set in stone for everyone.

In the town meeting we were also told that it is now at Zazzle's discretion whether they promote our self referrals or even us at the MP sales.

At this same time last May 2012 the groupings were changed at the MP and many of us lost our best selling rankings and were replaced with stores with little inventory we have never heard of.  Some say these are employee's that is speculation but employee's are allowed to have a store.  Zazzle also has their own affiliate marketing team which we also feel is a conflict of interest.  They have run ads for a Affiliate marketing specialist last year, and have a person which ironically has the same name as the affiliate who came into the forums claiming to make well into the high six figures a year with Zazzle.  They claim the two are not the same person but the person employed at Zazzle is their affiliate specialist.

Just a few months ago we were told that the royalty range should be at 10 to 25 percent then changed to 10-15 to be included in sales now again changed. This has levied a ton of work on us sellers changing our royalties which is not easy and only allowed one time per month, just to have it again now twice changed in one year.  Almost like a smokescreen to keep us from seeing what is really going on.

Now we are blindsided with little notice that our VB is going to the affiliates and yes some of us will lose thousands, but that is not the worst part.The VB would not matter anymore as the MP , the rankings, the tag gaming going on all makes it impossible for our best selling items to get the due we worked so hard for, and replaces with vendors, create your own, and now who knows stores for the purpose of Affiliates benefit.

Something is fishy in San Jose California and since we have been over night ruined and banned so we have no voice just like Cafepress did and now the forums are a ghost town we were fooled once but not again.  We will continue to try and find out what happened as we have been told they will NEVER tell us how they do their affiliate program yet they are telling someone and that is not the people that made them what they are today.   

The sad thing is that many still are in shock and denial and even though we tried to warn these people over a year ago, they still think Zazzle has their best interest at hand.  Time to wake up and everyone raise your royalties back up so affiliates get nothing like you will be getting if you do not.  If that does not work then you lose nothing and then close all your stores.  Take pride in your work and self its never going back to the way it was.

You are very welcome great forum got lost in the other rooms this morning..LOL  Amazing artists out there and helpful kind people...

Now what they are doing is stripping people of their pro badges as if you are banned by IP you can use a proxy and see the forums.  So by stripping you of your pro badge you can see the forums but never the pro rooms as you look like a newbie to the system.   Nasty people.  And I have as you said never received a reason or reply after threatening me saying they had complaints?  But refuse to say what I did???    Children!!!

I don't understand how they can keep their forums offline for so long. I hope it's not just me.

The forums are not down are you getting a white page?  If so you could be banned.  They are on the ban wagon again after the last town hall after deleting many people's post at the meeting down from 20 pages to 16 and banning those who complained and are not now kissing up again.

I have been with Zazzle since 2005 in fact many of us were recruited from Cafepress by Zazzle and many of us ended up making a good living there.  We also referred hundreds of people to Zazzle.  Many of us now are banned from the forums at Zazzle as of last May we saw some disturbing changes coming about.  When we posted about these we were banned some of us even threatened to have our stores closed and our earnings pending ceased.

From what we have all observed first the referral system was changed.  Those of us who were making referrals were now unable to get them almost 90 percent of the times we tried no matter what we have done.  Zazzle refused as it has to date that there were any changes, but blames it on our browsers , time outs, cookies but nothing wrong even though we know how to refer our efforts no longer work,  In fact people that do not refer are now sometimes getting referrals which we have figured to be a glitch on the changes they made this system.

The affiliates came in around this same time frame and pretty much told us who they will and will not promote.  Since that time the game changes every few months.  And yes now the affiliates get it all and all and that is ALL of our incentives have been taken away, or we are punished if we set our royalties above 15 percent and now urged to 5 percent which is just a matter of time that will be set in stone for everyone.

In the town meeting we were also told that it is now at Zazzle's discretion whether they promote our self referrals or even us at the MP sales.

At this same time last May 2012 the groupings were changed at the MP and many of us lost our best selling rankings and were replaced with stores with little inventory we have never heard of.  Some say these are employee's that is speculation but employee's are allowed to have a store.  Zazzle also has their own affiliate marketing team which we also feel is a conflict of interest.  They have run ads for a Affiliate marketing specialist last year, and have a person which ironically has the same name as the affiliate who came into the forums claiming to make well into the high six figures a year with Zazzle.  They claim the two are not the same person but the person employed at Zazzle is their affiliate specialist.

Just a few months ago we were told that the royalty range should be at 10 to 25 percent then changed to 10-15 to be included in sales now again changed. This has levied a ton of work on us sellers changing our royalties which is not easy and only allowed one time per month, just to have it again now twice changed in one year.  Almost like a smokescreen to keep us from seeing what is really going on.

Now we are blindsided with little notice that our VB is going to the affiliates and yes some of us will lose thousands, but that is not the worst part.The VB would not matter anymore as the MP , the rankings, the tag gaming going on all makes it impossible for our best selling items to get the due we worked so hard for, and replaces with vendors, create your own, and now who knows stores for the purpose of Affiliates benefit.

Something is fishy in San Jose California and since we have been over night ruined and banned so we have no voice just like Cafepress did and now the forums are a ghost town we were fooled once but not again.  We will continue to try and find out what happened as we have been told they will NEVER tell us how they do their affiliate program yet they are telling someone and that is not the people that made them what they are today.   

The sad thing is that many still are in shock and denial and even though we tried to warn these people over a year ago, they still think Zazzle has their best interest at hand.  Time to wake up and everyone raise your royalties back up so affiliates get nothing like you will be getting if you do not.  If that does not work then you lose nothing and then close all your stores.  Take pride in your work and self its never going back to the way it was.