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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:40 »
you locked up the mirror on a tripod at 1/125 whilst using a 50mm? and I thought I was a bit anal.  :)  I still sharpen in camera raw but rarely much after that.

Well... it's not hard to do.  If you use the shutter delay on Nikon cameras, you just put it on a tripod, compose your shot, and hit the button.  The mirror goes up, a second later, the shot it taken. 

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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 18:29 »
I shoot JPEG. I'm using PS CS (from 2003?). I usually shoot hand held mostly with a Canon 24-70mm purchased in 2004. I use the basic default Sharpen mode and then Fade it down to about 40-50%. Over 90% acceptance rate on all agencies for 5000+ images over the last 9 years.

The only issue I ever had was when using Canon's 135mm prime, without using any sharpening at all in post processing (because it was already so sharp), that images would sometimes be rejected by IS for 'over sharpening'! I thought it was just me but Yuri reported the same. That was some years ago mind.

No...  when I used to shoot Canon, it was my favorite lens.  Not only for sharpness, but for "character".  It just has a look that only that lens has. 

BTW... I think that's the dumbest thing ever.  So, you manage to get sharp shots and they are getting rejected for being "over sharpened".  What that tells me is that the reviewers aren't actually seeing artifacts...  but 'assume" that if you have sharp photos that it's over sharpened. 

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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 15:09 »
in LR, I add just a touch of basic sharpening in the develop module's "details" brick.  Then, I add output sharpening on export.  it's the output sharpening that I've turned off.  I've left the "Details" brick sharpening on.

That, so called, detail sharpening you are leaving turned on defaults to 25. That is enough to get you rejections for visible sharpening. Received wisdom is that anything more than 12 is too much. Personally I normally use 0.

I disagree with this; at least it hasn't been my experience.  I've never had a rejection at SS or iS for oversharpening and I set the capture sharpening in LR's detail panel to 25, radius 1, detail 25....the defaults.  I shoot RAW with a high rez camera (D800), use a tripod all the time, remote release, top level primes and zooms, MU, etc. so the images are as sharp as possible coming out of the camera.

I don't use any additional sharpening at export.

You have almost the exact set up that I have, although I don't always use a tripod.  And I use the shutter delay instead of a cable release.  Do you turn on the masking slider for your sharpening?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 14:55 »
I had an image rejected for softness and missed focus the other day from Shutterstock for an image shot with my 50mm at f8 on a tripod with mirror up shot with shutter delay.  ISO 100 and 1/125 and strobes.  There was NOTHING soft about the image.  But still got rejected for softness.. Go figure.

You could put it full sized on Dropbox with a watermark and post a link. Someone here might spot what the issue with it is.

Actually... I submitted it again Saturday night without making any changes what-so-ever, and I just got the e-mail from shutterstock that it was approved.  I think someone may have been just clearing their queue.  I also got about 30 images rejected for "Release not oriented correctly" stating that it needed to be vertical.  Of course... they were vertical.  So...  someone was just being lazy.  After resubmitting, it was accepted no problem. 

So...  What's the general consensus?  No sharpening at all or just really light to counter act the anti-aliasing filter?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 14:41 »
dont sharpen, it makes sense only for prints or web size.

soft focus : maybe they mean there's a little bit of camera shake ?

Don't sharpen at all?  Even the sharpening in the develop module which is supposed to be done to counter act the aliasing filter in digital cameras?

I use all primes.  24f1.4, 50f1.4, 85f1.4, and 105f2.8 Macro.  I had an image rejected for softness and missed focus the other day from Shutterstock for an image shot with my 50mm at f8 on a tripod with mirror up shot with shutter delay.  ISO 100 and 1/125 and strobes.  There was NOTHING soft about the image.  But still got rejected for softness.. Go figure.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 14:36 »
dont sharpen, it makes sense only for prints or web size.

soft focus : maybe they mean there's a little bit of camera shake ?

Don't sharpen at all?  Even the sharpening in the develop module which is supposed to be done to counter act the aliasing filter in digital cameras?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 14:09 »
Have you checked your in=camera sharpening settings? That might be enough to mess up your chances on SS.

Personally, in Canon RAW I use a sharpening strength of 3. Sometimes I add very light sharpening to the image after it is converted from RAW. That does not lead to rejections.

I shoot RAW.... so no in-camera sharpening.  In general, in LR, I add just a touch of basic sharpening in the develop module's "details" brick.  Then, I add output sharpening on export.  it's the output sharpening that I've turned off.  I've left the "Details" brick sharpening on. 

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General Stock Discussion / To sharpen or not to sharpen?
« on: October 07, 2013, 13:38 »
Hi all -

I've searched and read a lot of threads on this topic, but I wanted to directly discuss this.  I'm fairly new to micro-stock.  I have images on Getty, but this is my first effort on micro-stock.  I'm currently contributing to Shutterstock, iStock, Dreamstime, and Fotolia. 

For non-microstock stuff, I alway export with some light sharpening.  However...  I was getting some photos kicked back on Shutterstock for over-sharpening.  So, I turned off sharpening all together.  Ironically, I still got images kicked back by Shutterstock for over sharpening (I think Shutterstock just likes to clear queues a lot).

Anyway, I turned off all my sharpening and now I got some images on Fotolia kicked back from being soft.  However, the focus is spot on. 

So... what's the right thing to do?  Add a little sharpening or not?  I personally feel that all digital files need a little sharpening due to the aliasing filter.  But... my thoughts aren't really important...  what works best for micro-stock?

Thoughts?

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