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Messages - Cosinus Prod.

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My portfolio has gone.  Annoying that another small bit of income has gone but I couldn't see any other option.

Don't worry about the income. I think the other agencies will compensate the loss of Envato, at the latest when the buyers notice that they can't find the pictures they need ;-)

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I will also close my account. Waiting for their email... I hope a lot of people will do the same... It's even better than any D-Day  ;D

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Just for comparison:

I sold a file at alamy today. I received $60 for an editorial license for a maximum of 100,000 prints. So divide $60 with 100,000 prints that would be $0.0006 per print

You can also compare it with the shutterstock subscription royalties. I receive $0.38 for a subscription download. You can use this picture 250,000 times. Now divide $0.38 with 250,000 = $0.00000152 per use.

But Its for commercial use! Not for private use like the stream. A big difference!

And another point I can buy a license from a microstock superstar for just a few bucks for commercial use. Ask a music superstar if you can use his new song in your project for the same amount.
If I would receive $0.001 per view at shutterstock I would only need 380 views (streams) per image to receive the same amount I think this would be a really good deal!

If there will be a stream based offer in the microstock business I think we will receive about $0.00005 or less per view.

Generally I think its the same situation in the music industry and in the microstock business. You need to be really good and have your own style/sound to be a superstar both in the music industry and in the microstock business. There are also so much (copy-)amateurs in both businesses who will always complain that they cant make a comfortable living from their work. And you always have someone who earns good money but wants to have more or who live beyond his means.

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Perhaps the comparisons aren't identical but the philosophy of companies running the businesses are. Pay out as little as possible; retain as much as possible.
Youre right but this is also true for all other businesses as well. Just have a look at Mc Donalds, Ikea, Samsung, Apple and so on Its not a problem of this business its a general problem all over the world.
I still think you cannot compare streaming with the license model of the stock agencies. At the end of the day in the music business are also big players and small amateurs like here. Some making millions while others not even can pay their rent.

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You can't compare these type of business models. There is a difference between streaming music and using music for advertising or something like that. Streaming can compared with just viewing an image. So every time when someone see an ad with your picture you receive a small amount.

I can't believe that any music artist would give me the permission to use his song for advertising for just one buck like the dollar photo club do. Touring can be compared with traveling to do shots... so there are here also a lot of photographer which will lose money too.

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What the h... are you doing Envato? This type of invoice youve sent to the buyers are illegal where I live. But its not your problem right? You just wrote my name on the invoice and everything is OK for you? So thats the wrong way!

BTW: Why is my full name on the Invoice but only the first letter from the buyer?

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Can you explain why it its possible to sniff my username and password without any effort just by using an 0815 standard tool (Cain)? I've tried it in my local home Wi-Fi but if you use this App in public Wi-Fi-Nets everyone can easily sniff your login data!


I've attached a screenshot...

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There isn't much reaction as far as I can see, there are still big contributors who are aware of the 3% royalty but still support the agency.

I guess it's a sign of the times, people are willing or desperate to suck up any income at all. 123RF are now trying something similar by stealthily reducing their advertised royalties, my guess is all the agencies will eventually follow suit and rebadge credits as subs and sneak in ultra low royalties.

In all honesty the only way the industry could ever be corrected is if an agency was actually taken down and put out of business by a massive D-Day.

I think if there are no changes on DP we will need that massive D-Day there...

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Hi all,

after about one year of reading this forum I decided to register me. Ive >12000 images on DP and will disable them if there is some action against DP. What do you think about a message to TRUSTe that the contributors cant delete their images and / or that their subscription is scam (from contributors view)? I think it would be a first sign if they will contact DP in this matter. Here is the TRUSTe feedback form: https://feedback-form.truste.com/watchdog/request?url=www.depositphotos.com

Its not very much but if they lose their TRUSTe certificate it would be a first step and if they will not change their point of view maybe we need a D-Day, too!

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