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General - Stock Video / Re: Time lapse photography help
« on: January 19, 2015, 13:15 »
Yeah, there's a program to help with that. It costs a fair bit, though, and I can't remember the name just now.


I think you mean Lightroom Timelapse:
http://lrtimelapse.com/
I installed the demo but haven't tested it yet.

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I would like to to hear what Mr. Lik thinks of the Dollar Photo Club.

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Computer Hardware / Re: Ergonomics - Do you sit or stand?
« on: December 06, 2014, 09:38 »
I used to have some back pains years ago, not very dramatic but still quite unpleasant. I don't have them anymore and I sit 8 hours at my day job and then several hours in the evening at home. I think doing some rather simple yoga exercises everyday fixed my back to some extent. Swimming is also great for the back but I don't have enough time. I recently bought an elliptical trainer (cross-trainer) for the home and I run for half an hour everyday. I think my back will benefit from it as well although the main goal is to lose weight.

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Here's an example of the 500px Prime watermark. You can see how ridiculous it is.




Do you really expect to sell isolated strawberries for $250 in 2014?
I don't understand why they accepted it into Prime in the first place.
Yes, technically it is a very good image but to my mind there is nothing "premium" about it.
This is very good microstock work.

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yes you can, if they earn double than i would myself because they have for instance a much higher ranking at fotolia, while my individual account is still bronze, plus higher rankings in searches...etc...

Is there any evidence for a better best match position? You would need to upload a set of identical images both through the distributor and directly and then check which files rank higher.
Contributor ranking may not be such an important factor at all. Download numbers divided by online time should be more important. As a matter of fact, high contributor ranking may have the opposite effect if the site has to pay higher royalty rates.
As far as I remember this is the case at FT. Some time ago emeralds (or whatever they are called) complained here that their sales at FT had tanked. At that time I had to smile, because I had only a small port of old images there and the emeralds were not doing so much better than me as they should have. This might have changed of course, I just don't follow that site. The point is, such a site as FT benefits when lower rank contributors are promoted.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Dubistock.com
« on: November 22, 2014, 12:23 »
OK, if I had to describe my impression in one word only, that would be the word "dubious".

You might want to improve this text:
http://dubistock.com/pages/about.html

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New Sites - General / Re: PIXYLOO Announcement
« on: November 21, 2014, 18:44 »
1. No offical information displayed: Who are you? What is your VAT number? Where is your company registered? Do you give official invoices? Hiding behind a nice website was possible 10 years ago. Today its a nogo. Looks like the domain is registered to Randy McKown.
2. Nice concept.
3. You might consider changing your name.

+ 1.000.000.000

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Bigstock.com / Re: BigStock Selling HD Videos for $0.15 !!
« on: November 20, 2014, 16:21 »
I haven't read the whole thread, but this scheme is just too stupid to continue over a long period of time. Maybe the collection size will be limited or the program will be terminated.
So far, this kind of stunts was pulled off by loser sites, such as Fotolia or Istock. SS is one of 2 leaders in the footage market.
Let's assume SS has 30%-40% share of the market. Let's assume they are successful with this stupid move, kill most of their competition and increase their share to 90% (which is unrealistic because many producers would pull their content). A growth from 30% to 90% market share would mean a threefold increase. Now, could this unlikely growth compensate for a decrease in price from up to $79 per HD clip to $0.15? If you know the exact royalty rates for footage, please deduct them and do the maths, I'm too tired right now. How many times less is it?

Does 0.15 even cover the bandwidth, reviewing and storage costs?

I agree that this scheme is stupid but at the moment I'm not panicking.
I think more dangerous to the footage market are idiots who charge $50 for top quality HD and $90 for 4K on Pond5, and those who upload clips to DT, Envato and other gangster sites.

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notice that some of the items (beer and cigarettes for istance) are almost 10x times more than in nearby countries

Cigarettes are a stupidity tax. You have to pay it only if you are stupid.
Smart people don't pay this tax.

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Anyone on Clipdealer?

Oh, I forgot about Clipdealer because they seem to have forgotten how to sell my clips.
Previous years were quite good for me there, but 2014 sucks, also for photos.
Very good prices and very good royalties. Worth supporting. I wish they accepted editorial clips.
When I find some time I will upload some new batches.

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I'll repeat, if the garbage sites went out of business or were forced to raise their prices/royalties, video producers would gain the most. If you don't help the garbage sites grow their collections, they would have to do something positive for the contributors. That is elementary.
I see you're once again contributing to CC.  I bet many would classify CC as a "garbage" site.
But I suspect that you, like me, get sales occasionally and are hoping they grow to something bigger.  But by your logic, CC should just go under.

They pay me around 20 per sale. The royalty rate is now 40% (used to be 50%), which of course is not the best, but still relatively good.
What's important, they don't seem to participate in the race to the bottom.
I understand they had financial problems and I didn't want to invest time in them before my overdue royalties were paid.

I don't mind that they sell much less than P5 or SS, as long as they don't try to kill the market. Not every site can be the market leader. If they sell less, that's fine if they are fair.

If one of the market leaders sells HD clips for $79 then this price must be pretty close to the sweet spot for the market.
People who are "testing" price levels of $40 or 50$ for top-quality HD clips or $90 for 4K, are simply morons.
When they become a more serious issue for SS, SS will adjust their prices and everybody will lose. SS will likely remain one of the market leaders. Maybe the recent Bigstock thing has some purpose.

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"That is elementary, my dear Holmes." 


:)

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And I disagree with the statement, "1 video sold on a garbage site means one video NOT sold on a good site."  I think many customers only tend to frequent one or two agencies.  Just because a customer bought a clip on CC, doesn't mean they would have found that same clip of mine on P5.

That is not the point. The point is that e.g. SS may be forced to adjust their prices/royalties in order to stay competitive and then you'll lose big time. Don't do anything to undercut the market leaders, because when they'll 'undercut' you it will be game over.

I'll repeat, if the garbage sites went out of business or were forced to raise their prices/royalties, video producers would gain the most. If you don't help the garbage sites grow their collections, they would have to do something positive for the contributors. That is elementary.


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My Top Video Sites:

Premiere League:
1. Pond 5
2. SS

2nd League:
3. Clipcanvas - They have restructured and paid my overdue royalties. I will resume uploading.
4. Revostock - This month 1 sale so far, only ca. 80 clips online. I will resume uploading after they pay my overdue royalties.

Newcomer with good prices and royalties, worth giving them a chance:
Motion Elements


Hall of Shame - Garbage video sites that I don't touch with a 10 foot pole:

123 RF, DT, DP, FT, Envato, IS

These sites do nothing but undercut the good sites.
Who the #&* needs them? What for?
1 video sold on a garbage site means one video NOT sold on a good site.

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I started again to throw clips ClipCanvas' and DepositPhoto's way in the hopes I can expand my income base.

By supporting stupid sites such as Deposit you are undercutting yourself and actually killing "your income base."
The market leader lets you set your prices and pays the best royalties. I will never understand contributors who have a problem with that and want to destroy that.

If Deposit, Envato, 123, DT went out of the video business, all contributors would benefit from it. These sites are NOT video producers' friends.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Slow site
« on: October 22, 2014, 15:02 »
What is with the extremely slow site?  Even clicking on the upload button took over 30 minutes to get to the upload screen. 

LOL, the upload button.
I haven't seen that guy in years.
If a black hole had an upload button people would use and expect something.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: RPI for photographers at Shutterstock
« on: October 07, 2014, 15:54 »
I agree with you on #1 and even on #3 to a degree.  But you're off on #2.  "Everything gets downloaded as long as it is seen by buyers?"  Yes, to be downloaded it must be seen... but if something is seen, that doesn't mean it will be downloaded.

Well, I exaggerated. What I mean is that the position in the search results influences your income. And this position doesn't always depend on your skills as a photographer. There are many factors. Even the time of the image appearing online may influence its earnings.

I'd contend the higher your RPI, the more you know what customers want and are delivering to those needs.  We can gripe that SS' search seems crazy, but face it, they live or die by search... if customers can't easily find what they want, they won't be back.  SS knows this, so their main mission is to serve the most relevant results to a customer's search requests.  By definition, they're serving up the stuff that the customer will most want to buy. 

This is true for ODs and  SODs. With subscribers SS earns more if they download fewer files (as long as they don't cancel their subscriptions of course).

A high RPI -- in relation to the masses -- is absolutely a sign that you're doing things right.

I wouldn't say that. Your total income minus your total expenses is what really counts.
RPI is vanity, profit is sanity. (Although I wish it was the other way around)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: RPI for photographers at Shutterstock
« on: October 07, 2014, 15:00 »
There's something seriously wrong with the results when nearly 50% of voters are claiming more than 40c per image/month ... which itself is nearly 50% higher than Shutterstock's declared average.

Even Sean said he's only generating about 60c per image/month (in a previous thread) so we must have some absolute stock geniuses voting in the poll.

1. I'd say MSG members tend to be more active or more succesful than the average SS contributor. The SS collection includes many bad, unsaleable files (at least from today's perspective). It's not surprising that members of an independent, professional forum will have better results than the average SS member.

2. RPI is not really about how good you are, especially at SS it's more about your position in the search results. Everything gets downloaded as long as it is seen by buyers. If you came to SS recently life is much harder.

I had to smile, because with my skills I might not qualify to set up tripods or lights in the studios of some of the great photographers who shared their results - and yet my RPI at SS is much higher than theirs:) What does it prove? Nothing. I would gladly swap my higher RPI for the total income that they derive from photography. 

3. RPI is only useful so that you can realize that if your income grows at all, this growth is not linear, i.e. it doesn't correspond to your portfolio growth. The only constant is that the RPI is dropping and the only conclusion that you can withdraw from tracking it, is that this business is unsustainable (for contributors) and you should face the music and find a real job.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: RPI for photographers at Shutterstock
« on: October 06, 2014, 12:07 »
What about videos? Do you mean revenue per FILE or strictly per image?
For my purposes I calculate them together, I can't be bothered to deduct video sales.

Also, as I wrote in another thread an exclusive jumping ship should not expect the same results as people who have been slowly feeding the beast and achieved high positions in Most Popular sorts. The reasons are: competing with your own files and it is much more difficult to reach the first page when over 300.000 files are being added every week.

EDIT: I see now that you mean photos only, so I'll pass.

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Computer Hardware / Re: Best monitor for stock photography ?
« on: October 06, 2014, 11:58 »
I'm going to wait for the second generation of 4K (Ultra HD) monitors.
A 32-inch Dell UP3214Q with an IPS panel and Ultra HD resolution costs now about 1600 but it has only HDMI 1.4 which supports only 30 Hz at 3840x2160. It does have Display Port which supports 60 Hz but I'm going to wait for the next generation with HDMI 2.0.

It will require that I buy a new graphic card too, Nvidia Geforce 970 looks very good indeed.
I can't wait to be able to use the extra resolution on the screen, especially for video editing.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock has got so bad I now owe THEM money
« on: October 05, 2014, 15:03 »
All these RPI comparisons are completely useless for the OP.
I assume an IS-exclusive dropping exclusivity would want to upload their portfolio in a reasonably short period of time. It would make sense. And this is the problem. Their files would compete with one another. The download numbers would be divided by all the images of one subject and as a result none of the images would take off. Most of the images would be soon burried in the endless gazillions of SS images.

The trick at SS is getting to the first page, preferably to the top of the first page. Yes, it's true for most agencies, but not to the same extent as at SS.

It's much easier to achieve good results at SS when you slowly feed them and don't compete with your own images. See if one image of a subject takes off. If yes, then don't compete with it, let it accumulate download numbers and establish itself high in the search results.

If you upload hundreds or thousands images in a short period of time that is one great way to fail at SS.

IMHO the last good moment to join SS was around 2011 or 2012.
My RPI used to be around $1, now it is lower.

It used to be fairly easy to reach the first page, now it's no longer the case with over 300.000 images added every week.
Do the OP a favor and don't compare established ports with portfolios of newcomers to SS, no matter how good they are.

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like it or not, no one else, not even stocksy can equal ss  just yet

My RPI at Stocksy beats SS by a very wide margin every month but my portfolio is relatively small.

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Some very interesting posts and points here, but unfortunately this kind of conversation doesn't lead anywhere.
"Achieving $10,000/month" implies there is some sort of stability where there is none. Bestselllers die or are killed by search engine changes.

Does portfolio size matter if you want to grow your earnings? Well, yes it does, but more important is how many files you have on the first pages of most popular sorts, the demand for those searches where you rank high and the overall search ranking of the rest of your portfolio. People with large portfolios tend to shoot the same subjects, the same genres over and over again and therefore their files compete with one another.

I have a pretty good RPI at SS but it used to be much better. Nowadays it is much more difficult to reach the top of the first page of most popular. My bestseller was No. 1 of a very popular search for about 2 years and was killed with a flick of a switch.

I still upload to SS from time to time, but only cheap images that don't have much value to me + videos. I think it is time to move on and find greener pastures. The rapid growth of the SS collection makes it ...unsustainable. I learned a lot at SS and I like them but I don't see there much potential for growth in the current model and pricing scheme.

My best new work goes to Stocksy and other places where I see much better growth potential. I will continue to upload low-value stuff to SS and continue to look for new ways to earn money with my cameras.

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