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« on: April 01, 2024, 02:39 »
Hi Everyone,
I've scheduled a webinar with our Senior Product Manager in charge of search this Thursday, February 27 at 2:30PM PST. It would be great if you can attend. We'll do our best to take as many questions as possible during our 45-60 minute conversation about Adobe Stock search. How you can use the tools to your advantage as a contributor at Adobe Stock. I hope to see you there!
https://www.crowdcast.io/e/search-tips-and-tricks
Mat Hayward
Original link doesn't allow replay... Is there any other way to see replay of this webinar please ?
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« on: January 30, 2024, 01:19 »
So....you want us to believe that someone took or should we say steal someone's credit card, made a huge purchase in a short time from your account and you have not anything to do with it ?
Maybe it is just me but common sense in me says one or two, maybe three or four....five things....
1) It is quite common case that those stolen credit cards in countries where you came from are hardly to use on ATM so you people use it online. Mainly because you wont be prosecuted by law if you don't commit crime on your territory, which internet surely isn't and there is no law in your third party countries that regulates internet fraudulent activities.
2 ) If someone buy your work, you can take money, and pay them a percentage if you are not the one who stole that credit card. Which is motif for them + you to do it. Simple as that. MONEY.
3) Did you really think that bank wouldn't report usage of a stolen card in order to retrieve money ?
4) Did you really think that Adobe wouldn't check if there was a suspicious purchase on some other account/accounts ? And it is obvious that there was NO usage of that card on some other account, otherwise they wouldn't block and ban you. Didi you really think that there is no SERIOUS people at Adobe which will check what is going on ?
5) You want us to believe that stock agencies which live out of a selling ours and your work suddenly decide not to sale your work and not to take their percentage ?
I strongly think that you are victim of YOUR OWN stupidity and GREED which leaded you to think that there will be some easy money and all whining here is just your vent of your frustration cause of your OWN deeds.
I remember one expert at Adobe Community said a similar thing (but he was polite at least)
And i wonder what you will do when they block you (i hope soon).
First, what do you mean buy stealing credit cards? and how it could be stolen while i'm in Jordan and you are in USA!
Secondly, We people! use credit cards on ATM and online with almost zero fraud possibilities (all connected to your mobile number and a security code for each transaction) so, if you steal my card, you have to steal my phone with it and know the passwords for both).
Thirdly, regarding (Did you really think that there is no SERIOUS people at Adobe which will check what is going on?) NO, i don't think there are serious people to check what's going on scrupulously, (+9 months of invistigation with the same answer, and no soild proof).
Regarding point 5, that's the sad fact. We both lose due to their terms & rules, the system.
Many others got banned after contributing for many years (did you read about them or searched on google or just me!) Who will put a fixed income in danger? just answer this.
Read the story again, i create rare illustrations, calligraphic names and words, some may need a single download, some may need a large volume, like wedding cards shop, t-shirt store, name necklaces, etc. (I sold batches before i joind Adobe Stock) So, what seems to have happened is that when a subscriber downloads multiple files from my account, my account get blocked for irregular sales activity. There's not option in Adobe Stock to download a batch or a collection from contributors. There's no cautious investigation when an issue occures. There's no enough care and quick support for contributors.
You were supposed to say Adobe Stock is having a serious problem in handling it's contributors issues and they're out of control, the result is many suspended account not many fraudulent activities (Again, do some searching), because this it what you do when you're out of control, you panic and suspend accounts and freeze them until you find a way to solve this, not calling my stupid and whining, i'm just telling my experience and how it was injust.
So...you want us all to believe in coincidence that someone used stolen credit card on your account & portfolio by mistake ? Among thousands and thousands contributors ? Yeah, right, that is true. Also American wrestling is for real and Elvis is alive. 
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« on: January 29, 2024, 01:32 »
So....you want us to believe that someone took or should we say steal someone's credit card, made a huge purchase in a short time from your account and you have not anything to do with it ?
Maybe it is just me but common sense in me says one or two, maybe three or four....five things....
1) It is quite common case that those stolen credit cards in countries where you came from are hardly to use on ATM so you people use it online. Mainly because you wont be prosecuted by law if you don't commit crime on your territory, which internet surely isn't and there is no law in your third party countries that regulates internet fraudulent activities.
2 ) If someone buy your work, you can take money, and pay them a percentage if you are not the one who stole that credit card. Which is motif for them + you to do it. Simple as that. MONEY.
3) Did you really think that bank wouldn't report usage of a stolen card in order to retrieve money ?
4) Did you really think that Adobe wouldn't check if there was a suspicious purchase on some other account/accounts ? And it is obvious that there was NO usage of that card on some other account, otherwise they wouldn't block and ban you. Didi you really think that there is no SERIOUS people at Adobe which will check what is going on ?
5) You want us to believe that stock agencies which live out of a selling ours and your work suddenly decide not to sale your work and not to take their percentage ?
I strongly think that you are victim of YOUR OWN stupidity and GREED which leaded you to think that there will be some easy money and all whining here is just your vent of your frustration cause of your OWN deeds.
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« on: January 19, 2024, 02:01 »
I am getting emails daily now from Adobe with submission reviews, so mine have certainly sped right up! Also, the few months of a blip getting 90% rejections appear to have gone and back to normal 95% acceptance.......
It is obvious that Adobe hired more moderators.
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« on: January 17, 2024, 01:29 »
Just over half of submitted pictures rejected for "quality issues."
Another chunk for Shutterstock then which took all of the last lot after rejection by adobe. One of which has become my new best seller. One of which has won a prize and several of the others have sold a few times.
The quality issue is Adobe.
Don't hesitate to post here the picture (Ai? real photo?) which has won a prize and was rejected by Adobe. No doubt, you will not.
Shutterstock takes EVERYTHING
hahahahaha Adobe are no different. What a pathetic response.
And no I won't stupidly post the photo here so it can be copied and nor will I post the photos that are doing well despite adobe's rejection.
But I'm sure you'll post a photo of your best sellers here to show your confidence in the whole process.
We wait with baited breath 🙄
huh just found another adobe rejection that's a book cover. At least Shutterstock sell even if it's for peanuts it's some peanuts.
Pathetic ? you should calm down your ardor a little. I wanted to suggest that you prove that Adobe's rejection was not legitimate.
If that were true you would have written "Can you post the image to show the rejection is not legitimate" like you manged above. Instead you wrote:
"Don't hesitate to post here the picture (Ai? real photo?) which has won a prize and was rejected by Adobe. No doubt, you will not.
If you think someone's a liar and imply as much - own it, don't try and crawl out of it just own it.
"One of which has become my new best seller. One of which has won a prize and several of the others have sold a few times." If that were true you wouldn't bother to come to this forum / topic just to say that.
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« on: January 17, 2024, 00:53 »
It seems that they are starting to be aware how big flood is their "accept all GEN AI -at any cost".
Also, that kind of greedy "accept all and everything" always attracts fraudsters which most definitely created some bots to upload Ai "artworks" for them.
Only thing that surprise me is that Adobe didn't learned anything from SS deterioration when they become too greedy.
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« on: January 10, 2024, 01:27 »
I have never submitted anything generated by AI, and now, while reviewing my portfolio, I found 24 renders marked as generated by AI. All of them are renders from Blender 3D. Is this some new algorithm? Is AI searching for AI?
No. It is human mistake.  Adobe moderators can't spot difference between Ai Gen and 3D render anymore and with this Adobe new politics to swallow anything they simply mark that as AI GEN and accept file. Which is, by my opinion, far less disrespect toward contributor files than the rest of new Adobe rules of acceptance. Even that they OWN rule is that AI generated content MUST BE stated as one in order to be accepted to a collection.
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« on: January 08, 2024, 01:27 »
Didn't you guys hear that AI vectors are now allowed?
Didn't you hear that AI "vectors" must be declared as GEN AI ?
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« on: January 06, 2024, 04:56 »
And now, few months later....collection is flooded with GEN AI "vectors".
I'm quite sure that Adobe accept them deliberately.
Considering that they are not declared as AI generated and fact that they are accepted in a collection as regular vectors is spitting in a face of a vector contributors .
Shame.....
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« on: December 17, 2023, 05:04 »
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« on: December 16, 2023, 04:15 »
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« on: November 13, 2023, 00:42 »
Yes, it seems that Adobe started those AI generated "vectors" removal.
Unfortunately....they do it just for files which are reported by contributors.
There is still HUGE acceptance rate for those fraudulent AI generated files.
Another reason to know the limit of acceptable AI content for sale by Adobe per account.
knowing this limit,which already exists but no one knows what it is,I think is important.
in this case,for example,knowing the limit of AI content that Adobe can accept per account per month or year can be a deterrent for the creation of multiple accounts in order to circumvent these limits which are currently unknown.
but this is only one of many reasons,officially knowing the limit of AI content that Adobe can accept per account per month or per year is important.
Mat,I repeat my proposal in case you missed it in the other thread:is it possible to know what these limits are so that people know it,and act accordingly,in order to adapt to these limits?
Do we all agree that knowing is better than not knowing?
There is nothing that supports your idea that there's a acceptance limit on Adobe. The only support is your idea, reading between the lines, your personal translation, and coming up with a odd theory. There is an upload limit, but no invisible secret acceptance limit.
'' the limit of acceptable AI content '' ? ? ? Please....change dealer.
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« on: November 12, 2023, 06:14 »
Yes, it seems that Adobe started those AI generated "vectors" removal.
Unfortunately....they do it just for files which are reported by contributors.
There is still HUGE acceptance rate for those fraudulent AI generated files.
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« on: November 07, 2023, 01:11 »
I believe that tracing an AI output is allowed.
well ok if you wanna risk getting banned, but we all have lot at stake so maybe better not
I never said I'm doing it,and it's certainly not something I would recommend,better not to do it,because it's not clear.
I only reported the facts,the rules are those and acting in that way doesn't break any rules from what I read.
Also...what rules says about multiple accounts ? Of course that you can have multiple accounts with different assets, but if you check for example, that japan web reddish icons it is obviously same author from a 40+ accounts. What does it says ? That it is something legal or what ?
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« on: November 06, 2023, 01:03 »
Sorry,maybe I missed something,but I don't see any violation of the Adobe Generative AI User Guidelines in these vectors.
they are auto-traced vectors obtained from AI outputs,and therefore they are not vectors generated by AI.
i think there is a difference,they are not using Illustrator to create an AI content,but they are using Illustrator(or other software) to trace images.
I don't even see a particular set of similar ones,yes maximum 4 similar ones,therefore I don't see anything that violates the Adobe guidelines for AI content or the general terms of the contributor agreement in these vectors,they can't even be called AI content,even though the original output was clearly AI.
Maybe I'm wrong,but this is what I see.
In that logic of yours Ai generated "image" after importing to image manipulation program ,such as photoshop or lightroom, and changing few little things should become photo ? P.S. Violation in a first place is that Adobe claims that all AI generated files MUST BE DECLARED SO and those files obviously aren't. Which is fraudulent activity toward buyers.
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« on: November 05, 2023, 04:27 »
are you sure these aren't auto-traced vectors?
and please show some respect for those who are working,remember that Mat has rules to follow,he is working!
Auto traced vectors, and almost always in sets of four or less, similar images?  Did you look at them?
https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=%22japan+web%22
Side note, 13,455 results for "japan web" now, was "28,968 results for "japan web""
That is perfect example of AI generated vectors. My two pennies about why four similar is that the midjourney generate 4 "images" and fraudsters submit them all. Also.... I'm quite sure that Adobe acceptance of such files is NOT by mistake. Considering that Adobe collection content is moderated by humans those files are accepted even if it is OBVIOUS that they are Ai generated, NO ONE here, even Mat, can convince me otherwise. His state "Do not submit generative AI vector images" without further actions to remove those files and "contributors" from collection still says one or two things: 1) they (Adobe) do this deliberately. 2) there is HUGE gap in communications between Adobe departments so he is simply not informed that moderators are instructed to accept those files. That is why I started this topic as a double standards issue. Accepting those files and not removing it from collection is enormous disrespect toward working people - illustrators , photographers videographers.
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« on: November 01, 2023, 01:22 »
Do not submit generative AI vector images. If our policy changes on that, I will notify everyone here.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
I strongly advise you do not submit vector images created with generative AI software. Instead, my recommendation is to fully comply with the generative AI submission guidelines: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html
If the policy changes in the future, I'll be sure to let everyone here know.
-Mat Hayward
You are saying that generative AI vector images are going to be rejected ?
If it is so....how it is possible that EACH and EVERY day there is MORE and MORE obviously generative AI vector images in collection ?
P.S. If we ( as contributors ) are able to see that those files are generative AI - I'm SURE that Adobe moderation team can see it too.
Funny, I was expecting real answer from a man of your age and position within Adobe. Unfortunately for us your quoting screams just one thing....that you don't have a clue why Adobe accept generative AI vector images.
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« on: October 31, 2023, 11:38 »
Do not submit generative AI vector images. If our policy changes on that, I will notify everyone here.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
You are saying that generative AI vector images are going to be rejected ? If it is so....how it is possible that EACH and EVERY day there is MORE and MORE obviously generative AI vector images in collection ? P.S. If we ( as contributors ) are able to see that those files are generative AI - I'm SURE that Adobe moderation team can see it too.
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« on: October 30, 2023, 00:42 »
So most of the links are gone.
I am not sure if they are gone for spamming or for the reason that adobe is not allowing ai vector uploads.
You still didn't get any info / reply from Adobe on this issue ?
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« on: October 19, 2023, 00:15 »
As a seasoned vector contributor, I feel like an idiot manually drawing my files.
I have just contacted adobe support to ask if this is actually allowed.
I hope Mat is around and he can clarify it for us. I can generate hundreds of these every day and submit them as vectors. Are we being punished for not breaking the rules? Or are the rules this flexible?
Did you get any answer from adobe support yet ?
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« on: October 16, 2023, 23:37 »
If you look at the image numbers, this isn't from ages ago, but is recent. The rules are just ignored and the reviewers don't catch it.
Or reviewers did catch them but Adobe says let it in collection ? 
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« on: October 16, 2023, 00:21 »
When I checked last time....japan web had 28 000 results in new vector search.
Two weeks later 61 000 . MORE THAN DOUBLE.
30 000 of a same styled " vectors " from a different contributors which is more than obvious one and same person or group of a crooks.
No one can assure me that adobe moderators didn't noticed this amount of such look-alike files, so it is obvious that they are accepted in collection deliberately.
30 000 AI generated files in a two weeks , 61K+ in total from just one fraudster that are not marked as genAI - that totally undermines the ethical AI marketing messages Adobe has been pushing.
https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/211695781/charlotte?load_type=author&prev_url=detail 15 images?
David 30 images
Daniel 29 images
Benjamin 31
Caroline 28
"688 results for japan web red line art in all"
But still, this seems like an odd game they are playing? And yes the collections are much larger in some cases. If Adobe cares, it's easy enough for them to do the same search and disable all of these accounts.
Each of those files have just "japan web", no need to add "red line art" as a search term. I guess that this crook added that japan web term in all files in order to see which of these files are accepted ( considering that we all know that the title is searchable at Adobe stock )
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« on: October 14, 2023, 01:57 »
Reviews have got faster suddenly. Have they hired more reviewers or are they using a bot?
Fact that moderation lasted even for a two months for some contributors exclude possibility that Adobe use bot for moderation. Obviously they hired at least 10 more moderators.
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« on: October 14, 2023, 01:50 »
When I checked last time....japan web had 28 000 results in new vector search.
Two weeks later 61 000 . MORE THAN DOUBLE.
30 000 of a same styled " vectors " from a different contributors which is more than obvious one and same person or group of a crooks.
No one can assure me that adobe moderators didn't noticed this amount of such look-alike files, so it is obvious that they are accepted in collection deliberately.
30 000 AI generated files in a two weeks , 61K+ in total from just one fraudster that are not marked as genAI - that totally undermines the ethical AI marketing messages Adobe has been pushing.
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« on: October 05, 2023, 00:14 »
Yes.
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