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General Stock Discussion / It's hot in here sometimes!
« on: May 30, 2008, 17:33 »
I gotta rant!!!!

Does anyone have an example of a microstock site reacting in a positive manner to a rant or complaint in a forum?

The more I read, the more I read the same thing. (Dead horse looking very nasty) 

The complaints I see everywhere range from rejections, commission rates, review times, uploading and a few others. 

Does anyone here actually think the complaining works?  Or are folks just blowing off steam knowing full well nothing will change?

Does anyone really think IS will change their inspection policy and accept more of their images is they go off in a rant about it?

Does anyone really think ANY of the microstock sites really care what any of us think anyway?

Does anyone really think you alone can hurt a site by not uploading anymore?

IMO the sites see 95% of us as pawns.  They could care less if we stop uploading to them. We can complain all we want to whom ever we want but nothing will change.  Do you disagree?

For every photog who either stops uploading or pulls their images, there are 5 to take his/her place.

Does anyone here really think the influx of contributors will slow down giving each of us a say so in how a sites does its business?  Please Not in my lifetime

Bottom line is Im guilty of most of the above.  However after watching and reading for a while Ive come to realize it does nothing other than to get something off our chest.  Other than that its just a worthless rant.  This post can now be classified as just that..a worthless rantOk, Im done now.. Now its your turn to rant a little. ; - )

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General Stock Discussion / Scratch and Dent Photos?
« on: May 30, 2008, 14:58 »
Scratch and Dent Photos?

I was asked by a friend about an idea he had for a bargain basement stock site for everyday folks and small web designers.  What he has put together is a site (not public yet) that will offer images for below micro prices.  The catch is the images will be only those rejected by the other sites.  Sounds kind of odd to me but I was listening.  I told him that I had no idea but it would be tough to make any money because the market is already flooded with stock sites.  He wants to offer images that a sub par to the current standards.  He also would sell images for as low as .25 USD.  He also said he had a process where images with noise and artifacts etc would be downsized by the reviewers to make them acceptable.  The image would be priced according to size only.  The smallest size would be 300x200 for 25 cents.  As the size goes up the price follows up to $2.00.  He wants to offer 70%  commission to the contributors. 

This much I do know, the guy is a good photographer and web designer.  He has the money to do Google, Yahoo and Ask for sponsored search and several magazines for web developers. 

One idea he had was to open up the world to photos taken at higher ISO like 1600 and size them down a bit to allow those images to be sold at lower prices.  I did like that part.  I have a lot of shots that dont pass that wouldnt pass the review process at any or very few sites because of noise.  However they still make great small web images.

I told him that I would ask the question and see what the community thought about it.  Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks   

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General Stock Discussion / Overabundant Category
« on: May 21, 2008, 10:22 »
Ponder this;

I think the  Overabundant Category rejection on most sites is a little unfair for several reasons.  It limits freshness in that category.  It also gives those with that type of image a slight advantage.  Also what if a buyer buys one of my images and decides to look at my portfolio for other images he or she might want.  If Im not allowed to have diversity in my portfolio I am limited in sales.  Granted some things are overabundant, however if one of those overabundant images isnt in my portfolio I cant sell it.  That doesnt hurt the site because the buyer will indeed find it elsewhere on the site but that doesnt helo me at all.

On another note:  I wonder if the day will come when the sites start pruning older images that have never sold over a given period of time?  I would be all for that.  If an image hasnt sold in a year or so then why not remove it.  Or adding another criteria, if the image has no downloads and less than (#) views, remove it.  Pruning older images that are basically dead would benefit everyone involved and also eliminate the Overabundant issue all together.

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

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Adobe Stock / Rejected "Not Stock"
« on: May 12, 2008, 14:58 »
Not stock.....Accepted at all others.......Makes me want to delete all my images!

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=12395479

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iStockPhoto.com / IS Portfolio vanished?
« on: May 02, 2008, 06:45 »
I went to look at my portfolio on IS and it was gone?  I can still see the approved/waiting images but the public view just isn't there for some reason.  I sent a support ticket.  It's just a computer thing I hope. >:(

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General Stock Discussion / New Home shots
« on: April 25, 2008, 07:35 »
What sites will and won't accept shots of new homes without a PR?  I only ask this because we have a new area that is dead-on for home shots.  Every aspect of the home and yards are perfect.  But if I need a PR then I won't waste my time shooting and submiting.  By the way I would be shooting each shot from a public road.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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General - Top Sites / IS - poor business model
« on: April 15, 2008, 19:23 »
Granted Ive only been in the stock business for a few months but I still dont understand the business model for IS.  Yes Ive read all the pros and cons of why they do things like they do but it still makes no sense at all to me.

Heres a scenario for all of you skeptics.  Lets say a new toy comes out that may take the market by storm.  Stores like Wal-Mart will try to get it first and more of it.  Thats how they beat the competition like K-mart.  They offer the best products at the best price and carry as much of a item as they can.  I think SS is the Wal-Mart and while sales at IS are good I cant see how they expect to compete down the road with their current way of doing business.  To be honest, they operate like they have a monopoly on the microstock business.  Well I have news for them, they dont.  Sites like Fotolia and Dreamstime are growing at a pretty fast pace.  Those sites or others like them will pass IS  sooner or later and be leave IS scratching their heads wondering what happened.

Lets look at the real numbers;
As of today this is the number of images online at (4) of the big (6)
SS = 3,471,223
FT = 3,482,242
IS =  2,964,072
DT = 2,776,981

Here are my personal numbers

SS = 75 files approved with $29.30 in sales this month
FT = 105 files approved with $5.94 in sales this month
IS = 20 files approved with $2.65 in sales this month
DT = 55 files approved with $1.80 in sales this month

The numbers dont lie.  People keep saying hang in there, IS is the best for long term.  Thats just BS coming from the butt kissing istockers.  What makes some of you think differently about this is anybodys guess?  IS is working towards a bunch of Exclusive photogs to keep things fresh there.  However they are way behind the eight ball.  When Yuri goes exclusive at IS then you better take a look.  Until then stay as far away from Exclusive at IS as you can.  Youre only cutting your nose off spite your face as they say.  Also out of the other big (6) IS is days or even a week or so behind the rest when it comes to offering up new images.  Why would a designer buy a subscription at IS knowing he or she isnt seeing the latest the photogs have to offer?  Why would a designer want to buy a sub at from a IS when they could have 500,000 more images to choose from at SS?   The only reason I care is because of the hype.  IS IS IS IS IS over and over again.  Well you know what, remember this post in a few years.  Not taking a stand as a group is the very reason we cant change their upload limits and slow review times.  Not helping each other to make the market better will hurt us all in the long term.  Granted, IS has a strong place in the market today, but its my guess that this will soon change if IS doesnt change their ways. The sad thing is they could be number (1) but I think they have waited too late to even hope for that spot.  You mark my word on this.  Ive been in the photography business for over 30 years and I have never seen anything like IS make it for very long as a driving force.

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General Stock Discussion / 123RF rejections
« on: April 15, 2008, 07:22 »
In the past 2 weeks I've had two rejections for "Logo/Branding" that are totally unwarranted.  They sent me a email about the 1st one saying the had a new reviewer "cutting teeth".  Well it happened again yesterday.  Yet another "Logo/Branding" rejection.  I sent them a email asking for them to point out the Logo or Branding because I can't find it to save my life.  I also stated that I would stop uploading if the stupid pointless rejections didn't stop.  Given my sales there it really wouldn't hurt me at all to close my account at 123RF anyway. 

Anyone else had this type of rejection in the past few weeks?

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General Stock Discussion / Inspection process itself?
« on: April 13, 2008, 07:20 »
I was wondering if anyone knows the image approval process form a technical standpoint?  In other words, what software do they use to view the images?  Are they looking at them at 100% or is the inspection at 200% or greater?   I guess Id like to know the process itself.  How they do it form step one to finish.  This way I could try to save myself some grief by pre-inspecting my images as they do rather than how I do it now.

We all know what they are looking for to reject but the bottom line is HOW they do it step by step?

Thanks

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General - Top Sites / Only 30 days in the stock business
« on: April 04, 2008, 20:18 »
Not that it matters much but I just have to vent a little. 

Ive been a portrait/wedding photographer for a little over 30+ years.  Until the past few weeks I never gave this business of microstock a second thought.  A few weeks back I decided to give it a try.  Heres my experience so far;

First I signed up at Shutterstock and iStock because I found the information here about the big 6.  I was rejected by SS and accepted by IS.  I began uploading to IS as soon as I was accepted.  At first my acceptance rate at IS was about 35%.  ( I will admit I have a lot to learn about this business)  Last week I was up for review at Shutterstock and got in.  Since then I have been submitting to the following sites:

(Ranked by personal success rate)

Shutterstock
Fotolia
Dreamstime
123rf
Stockxpert
BigStock
Crestock
iStock
CanStockPhoto
LuckyOliver


As a newbie I wanted to share my experience so far.  First and foremost, Shutterstock is by far number #1 for me.   After only one week of uploading its taken off like a rocket.  I say this because Ive only been uploading there for a week and my at SS sales blow the others away by about 300%.  I have about an 80% approval rate at SS as well. Second place goes to Fotolia.  While my numbers are small there I have been very pleased so far.  Third place has to go to Dreamstime and fourth would be 123RF.  Fifth place goes to Stockxpert.  The rest arent worth the trouble right now.

Without boring you with anymore details I want to say this.  iStock is a JOKE for me.  Rejection after rejection and because of that, poor sales.  They are by far the slowest to approve or reject as well.  I still have images sitting in the Q from 2 weeks ago.  The strange thing is every image that sells on SS and the other sites were rejected by IS.  IS is also very inconsistent with approvals and rejections.  What gets approved today will be rejected tomorrow.  I also think the CEO of IS has a brain malfunction with his business model.  Only accepting 15 images per every 168 hours is just dumb.  Why would any business put a restriction on the incoming product.  If they stay on the same track for much longer, SS is going to pull way out in front and own the market even more than they do now.  Ive read all the reasons IS does what they do and why.  But I still dont see the logic in it.

In closing Ill say to anyone just starting out, stay away from CanStockPhoto and LuckyOliver.  CanStockPhoto is very slow and sales are unseen.  LuckyOliver is too busy trying to be funny.  Sales there are basically nonexistent.  I only say this because youre better off taking great images for the big 6 rather than wasting your time with the others for now.  I know lots of you love IS and I can understand why.  But for me they dont measure up.  Maybe I got in too late.  Nevertheless, they are very low on my list. 

I wish everyone here huge success no matter where youve found your gold.  I just had to tell my story.  I mean no harm if anyone has taken offence to anything Ive said.

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Dreamstime.com / Rejected model release
« on: April 03, 2008, 16:45 »
Today out of the blue DT rejected my model release that I've been using for a good while.  The strange thing is the same release is attached to about 15 accepted files on DT.  I sent a nasty email about being consistant. (No reply as of yet) My sales are about 10% of that at ST so if they kick my out I really don't care.  They have done this in the past on images.  Accept one then reject another from a series for a really off the wall reason.  Then I re-submit it a few days later and they accept it.  I'm going to give up on them for a while if not for ever.

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